Racial Tension in the U.S.

[Sebastian]

Reward the mob, get the mob.

This looks like racist oppression, and it manifested out of the refusal to participate in being racially oppressed.

This is becoming.. Scary. Can't help but think this is the result of telling people white people are oppressing you ubiquitously. This seems to result whenever this strategy is implemented.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bO1agIlLlhg&feature=youtu.be

Again, Evergreen is yahoo town.

It is not to be held as the "typical college environment." They've been nuts for decades. Lumping the 1000s of universities together with them is like claiming Storm Front is the same as the New York (Failing) Times.

 

[David.]

Again, Evergreen is yahoo town.

It is not to be held as the "typical college environment." They've been nuts for decades. Lumping the 1000s of universities together with them is like claiming Storm Front is the same as the New York (Failing) Times.

Guess we shouldn't worry about what's happening then?

And Mizzo? Harvard? Ivy League schools not named Princeton?

This stuff isn't isolated. Last time I constructed a few posts with 36 pieces of evidence it received laughing rep, as if beating old people was somehow funny. Should I pull up stills of school projects denigrating white people? Etc?

I've resorted to just posting veritable proof without comment as just acknowledging what others (even left of centrists like jigs) have noticed hadn't sufficed. Now the obvious video evidence isn't sufficient.

Should the attitudes towards explicit racism against whites be applied to other situations, or the attitudes towards other situations asserting there was racism in some markedly ambiguous instances be applied towards these situations, these conversations would be drastically different, no?

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

I understand the concept of checking one's privilege. It's not the same thing as race division.

Doesn't necessarily relate to race.

It certainly relates to race when it's "white privilege".

Whether or not you think the term should be divisive is not the same as whether it ends up actually fostering division or resentment.

 

[Wrathe]

Again, Evergreen is yahoo town.

It is not to be held as the "typical college environment." They've been nuts for decades. Lumping the 1000s of universities together with them is like claiming Storm Front is the same as the New York (Failing) Times.

That's fair, though, ask yourself what your response would be if it were a single college town telling Black Students they're not allowed to show up to work/school for the day. We White folks are celebrating a Day of Presence.

Holy shit storm, right?

I get it. "History makes it 'different'. Unless you're White. Then you should just move on, it's only history."

It's the double standard that there's issue w/. I'm personally not screaming some great plight for Whites, don't get me wrong. I'm saying double standards are double standards and if we refuse to stop trying to pass that shit as equality then resentment and actual true racism WILL grow, not wane.

People act like there's a difference, like Japanese resentment is some old hat. When was the last time an American owned a slave? When was the last time a Japanese man was in a US internment camp?

Ya, the Japanese resentment is a lot more recent, yet; "Forget about it. Move on. It's ancient history, that doesn't justify racism!"

The thing is, I totally agree with that sentiment. I just hate that the shoe doesn't fit both sides, despite it being the same size.

 

[Wrathe]

Out of curiosity, how did this mob force them to shut down a taco truck?

And most importantly, after reading the source article, why aren't people protesting the author of the article? I found the opening paragraph pretty offensive, so, I'm not sure who these people are that were protesting this restaurant?



How'd they get shutdown though? That's the part that I don't understand? Like... how's that work? I'm in business myself, and I know a thing or two about how retail businesses work -- and I see no way on Earth that article alone, plus some mild outrage, would've gotten their business shuttered on it's own.

Moreover, if you read the Post article, it suggests that the closure happened in less than a week.

That doesn't sound like someone being "shutdown," insomuch as they said "fuck it." Or, they ran out of money? But it damn sure wasn't the article that put them out of business.

Ya, I wondered the same. I don't see hard reasons, I would imagine the negative publicity caused enough damage to their patronage that they couldn't sustain? It's apparently a Portland thing?

Another article covering it and some other issues in the area:

Link

 

[The Oi]

Out of curiosity, how did this mob force them to shut down a taco truck?

And most importantly, after reading the source article, why aren't people protesting the author of the article? I found the opening paragraph pretty offensive, so, I'm not sure who these people are that were protesting this restaurant?



How'd they get shutdown though? That's the part that I don't understand? Like... how's that work? I'm in business myself, and I know a thing or two about how retail businesses work -- and I see no way on Earth that article alone, plus some mild outrage, would've gotten their business shuttered on it's own.

Moreover, if you read the Post article, it suggests that the closure happened in less than a week.

That doesn't sound like someone being "shutdown," insomuch as they said "fuck it." Or, they ran out of money? But it damn sure wasn't the article that put them out of business.

Can't find all of the details.

But they deleted all of their online presence and the business disappeared shortly after the article and online freakouts occurred. So the article, the online attacks and them going out of business seem pretty closely related in time.

Maybe there's more to the story as in they didn't have the money it cost to run a taco truck. Maybe there's nothing more than that one idiot wrote an article and decided to bring them down, people showed up to picket them and the girls decided it wasn't worth it anymore.

Regardless...I think it's a pretty solid example of people misunderstanding or disagreeing with a statement "we observed Mexican women making tortillas in Mexico, learned as much as we could and brought that knowledge here," deciding that they should be punished for it and using the power of the internet to shame them out of business.

 

[Wrathe]

Can't find all of the details.

But they deleted all of their online presence and the business disappeared shortly after the article and online freakouts occurred. So the article, the online attacks and them going out of business seem pretty closely related in time.

Maybe there's more to the story as in they didn't have the money it cost to run a taco truck. Maybe there's nothing more than that one idiot wrote an article and decided to bring them down, people showed up to picket them and the girls decided it wasn't worth it anymore.

Regardless...I think it's a pretty solid example of people misunderstanding or disagreeing with a statement "we observed Mexican women making tortillas in Mexico, learned as much as we could and brought that knowledge here," deciding that they should be punished for it and using the power of the internet to shame them out of business.

In reading the link I posted above on it, and branches from that same article, it's a food cart. Ironically, a food cart that they shared w/ a person of color who ran it on the weekends. The outcry against them caused them to close their food truck, and thus the person of color's work too.

I dunno, this culture appropriation stuff, IMO, is total divisive horse shit. Like saying the use of electricity is appropriating White culture. Absurd.

 

[The Oi]

I dunno, this culture appropriation stuff, IMO, is total divisive horse shit. Like saying the use of electricity is appropriating White culture. Absurd.

Absolutely.

 

[Lee]

That's fair, though, ask yourself what your response would be if it were a single college town telling Black Students they're not allowed to show up to work/school for the day. We White folks are celebrating a Day of Presence.

Holy shit storm, right?

I get it. "History makes it 'different'. Unless you're White. Then you should just move on, it's only history."

It's the double standard that there's issue w/. I'm personally not screaming some great plight for Whites, don't get me wrong. I'm saying double standards are double standards and if we refuse to stop trying to pass that shit as equality then resentment and actual true racism WILL grow, not wane.

People act like there's a difference, like Japanese resentment is some old hat. When was the last time an American owned a slave? When was the last time a Japanese man was in a US internment camp?

Ya, the Japanese resentment is a lot more recent, yet; "Forget about it. Move on. It's ancient history, that doesn't justify racism!"

The thing is, I totally agree with that sentiment. I just hate that the shoe doesn't fit both sides, despite it being the same size.

Actually agree with this.

Why is my "white" history have less significance? After all 100% of my ancestors are here because they had to leave their "home countries" to avoid death from Nazi Germany.

No one in my ancestry has been here more than 100 years.

If you include all that have suffered, Natives Americans, African Americans, Jews, Imprisoned Asians , heck even Mormons and many others, you will find majority of Americans have suffered in their ancestory at one time in the last 200-300 years.

Just seems short sighted and creates more racism than bringing awareness. Its saying my people's suffering is worse than yours.

 

[DJTJ]

Actually agree with this.

Why is my "white" history have less significance? After all 100% of my ancestors are here because they had to leave their "home countries" to avoid death from Nazi Germany.

No one in my ancestry has been here more than 100 years.

If you include all that have suffered, Natives Americans, African Americans, Jews, Imprisoned Asians , heck even Mormons and many others, you will find majority of Americans have suffered in their ancestory at one time in the last 200-300 years.

Just seems short sided and creates more racism than bringing awareness. Its saying my people's suffering is worse than yours.

Hey, now. Leave the Mormons out; they ruthlessly slaughtered hundreds of people who traveled west.

 

[The Oi]

So we can at least all agree that Scientologists suck though, right?

 

[Lee]

So we can at least all agree that Scientologists suck though, right?

But its not a racist religion as Will Smith is just as big a douche as John Travolta and both are high ranking officials in the cult.

Edit: Will Smith left Scientology, so oops, but yes, Scientology is bad.

 

[Wrathe]

But its not a racist religion as Will Smith is just as big a douche as John Travolta and both are high ranking officials in the cult.

Edit: Will Smith left Scientology, so oops, but yes, Scientology is bad.

Didn't know he was in it, and I've always loved Will Smith. He's seemed pretty grounded in anything I've ever seen him interviewed in. Grew up w/ that dude (He's the DJ and the TV Show)!

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

I dunno, this culture appropriation stuff, IMO, is total divisive horse shit. Like saying the use of electricity is appropriating White culture. Absurd.

Exactly. If it is "cultural appropriation" for a white person to wear cornrows or dreads, it should be "cultural appropriation" for a black person to straighten/bleach their hair. The most annoying part of it are the people who allow themselves to be intimidated by it.

 

[Lee]

Didn't know he was in it, and I've always loved Will Smith. He's seemed pretty grounded in anything I've ever seen him interviewed in. Grew up w/ that dude (He's the DJ and the TV Show)!

I do like him, but anyone in Scientology is a douche, such a bad religion/cult.