Remaining 2016 Free Agents

[wuck]

I shake my head whenever I update the OP and see the list of remaining centers.

 

[Chris Parker]

I shake my head whenever I update the OP and see the list of remaining centers.

you start hearing yourself saying crazy things like, "How bad can Chris Kaman be? 34 is the new 30 in the NBA, I mean look at Duncan." Yes, in my brain Kaman and Duncan wound up in consecutive sentences, closer than Kaman's ever gotten to Duncan's level.

 

[Rich]

I don't mind taking a flier on him, Rich. He might be a disaster, but I don't see any other good alternatives at the big man position right now.

We need an athletic big man that can protect the rim. I just don't see any nice options out there for the league minimum over Sanders.

Some people are talking about Chris Anderson. But I don't know how much he has left in the tank.

I don't mind a flyer either, and I know your post was in jest, but quite truthfully it probably is more likely he kill a teammate than someone from another team.

 

[Rich]

Man oh man, a lesson that is learned every damn free agency period. If you aren't signing a bonafide star, then just wait.

Would you rather have Festus Ezeli at 8 million a year, or Timofey Mozgov and Ian Mahimi at double? That's such an easy, easy call. Don't rush to sign non-star role players to huge money.

Meanwhile, Festus Ezeli is probably fairly bitter at the Warriors. Had they renounced him right at the start of free agency, he, most likely, ends up with more money.

Think about the Wizards. They didn't have a particular need for a 15 million dollar a year center with Gortat on the roster. Particularly one without any real offensive skills. I bet they'd be feeling far about life if they had, instead, just signed Ezeli to half that price.

 

[shoes22]

Man oh man, a lesson that is learned every damn free agency period. If you aren't signing a bonafide star, then just wait.

Would you rather have Festus Ezeli at 8 million a year, or Timofey Mozgov and Ian Mahimi at double? That's such an easy, easy call. Don't rush to sign non-star role players to huge money.

Meanwhile, Festus Ezeli is probably fairly bitter at the Warriors. Had they renounced him right at the start of free agency, he, most likely, ends up with more money.

Think about the Wizards. They didn't have a particular need for a 15 million dollar a year center with Gortat on the roster. Particularly one without any real offensive skills. I bet they'd be feeling far about life if they had, instead, just signed Ezeli to half that price.

I still don’t understand what the Lakers were doing that Mozgov was the very first player signed in free agency. That’s insane to me. Nobody was going to outbid for Mozgov at that price anyway.

 

[IRV4WIN]

I still don’t understand what the Lakers were doing that Mozgov was the very first player signed in free agency. That’s insane to me. Nobody was going to outbid for Mozgov at that price anyway.

Lakers always panic, Not shocked at all!

 

[Rich]

So Brooklyn signed Crabbe to a nearly 19 million a year offer sheet. Portland is in a good spot to extract real value here. They aren't close to the tax line, so they can match and either demand a good amount from Brooklyn, or just hold onto him and deal him to another team.

In fact, it should be almost a given Portland will match. It would make no sense not to when they'd still be like 30 million below the tax line.

Now, next summer they'll have to match a max offer sheet for McCollum. They are already paying Lillard 25+ million a season, and Evan Turner a big amount too. It will be hard to justify paying 4 perimeter players huge, huge money, particularly when one of them (Crabbe) doesn't start. That would be four perimeter players making between 17 million and whatever amount McCollum can get signed to. I don't know if its more than what Lillard is getting, but you get the point. It's four guys playing outside the paint on both ends making over 17 million, at least, a season.

But, good news, all of these guys are really young and have, at least right now, a lot of value. Aminu, Crabbe, McCollum. They'll have their pick on who to keep and who to trade for a hefty return. Most likely they'll deal Crabbe. They may do it right now, depending on how much Brooklyn is willing to give up.

Still, they aren't being forced into letting him go. They can match and decide later. They've got a chance to go from a good team to a contending team depending on how they play this.

EDIT: Reports are the Blazers won't match, which I think is mistake. Even with the cap holds of other RFAs (Harkless, Leonard) they still aren't over the tax line by matching.

Moreover, I'd be much more inclined to dump those two in favor of keeping Crabbe than the other way around.

Btw, what is the limit on how long a player has to go get an offer sheet before the QO becomes his contract?

 

[TheISHT]

3 days.

Read that completely wrong.....

 

[wuck]

Btw, what is the limit on how long a player has to go get an offer sheet before the QO becomes his contract?

From Coon:

A qualifying offer automatically expires on October 1, unless it is extended by the team (which is rarely done). A qualifying offer cannot be extended past March 1. If the deadline passes and the qualifying offer is neither withdrawn nor accepted, the player continues to be a restricted free agent. The team and player are free to negotiate a new contract after the qualifying offer expires -- the deadline only affects the player's ability to accept his qualifying offer.

 

[gourimoko]

3 days.

 

[The Wizard of Moz]

2spooky4me

 

[I'mWithDan]

How sad are a guys prospects if, at 25, you are unexpectedly an UFA.......and you have to return to the team that let you go? For the minimum?

His agent should be fired.

 

[I'mWithDan]

So Brooklyn signed Crabbe to a nearly 19 million a year offer sheet. Portland is in a good spot to extract real value here. They aren't close to the tax line, so they can match and either demand a good amount from Brooklyn, or just hold onto him and deal him to another team.

In fact, it should be almost a given Portland will match. It would make no sense not to when they'd still be like 30 million below the tax line.

Portland has made a lot of really smart moves. They have some amazing contracts on their books (Aminu, Davis, Ezili, etc.)

With McCollum due an extension, why would they roll the dice like that? Just to try to manufacture an asset? They just picked up Turner, who has some position versatility and can play SG in spots if need be.

I like Crabbe as a player but for 20% of my cap? I mean, that is an insane risk with such an important player coming up for RFA next summer. The Blazers have $75 million in active contracts, to only 12 players. They still have to match or negotiate with both Harkless and Leonard. The QO's don't slot as active contracts but, at minimum, they're already beyond the floor with those two guys....which I'm sure will both be back.

The Blazers justh have to let him walk at that price. It's never fun losing an asset for nothing but they have larger priorities IMO. It's just such an overpay.

 

[weepinwillow]

Larry Sanders: you want basketball players who like playing basketball. Sanders doesn't pass the smell test on that one, in my opinion.
Boogie Cousins: Is there a lockerroom in the NBA that can handle this guy? I don't see any reason to move one of our core guys to add someone who won't get as many touches to make him effective and has a penchant for blowing his top quickly and often.

I don't see the Cavs adding anyone but Lebron and JR the rest of the offseason. You have 13 under contract once you count James, JR, RJ, Dunlevey, Felder. Almost all the significant minutes accounted for. Probably add a rookie minimum training camp guy or two and call it until the deadline.

 

[tocov]

Is there a lockerroom in the NBA that can handle this guy?

To be fair, if there IS one, it's one with LeBron James.