Rumor: Nets, Nuggets, Cavs were CLOSE to 3-way deal last week (Devin Harris to Cavs?)

[Mdog1]

Re: Rumor: Nets, Nuggets, Cavs were CLOSE to 3-way deal last week (Devin Harris to Ca

Could we possibly get the GSW first rounder in this trade?

 

[MYoung23]

Re: Rumor: Nets, Nuggets, Cavs were CLOSE to 3-way deal last week (Devin Harris to Ca

The only way you take Devin Harris is with a pick and the knowledge you could find another landing spot for him by February.

 

[Cavalierfan]

Re: Rumor: Nets, Nuggets, Cavs were CLOSE to 3-way deal last week (Devin Harris to Ca

The only way you take Devin Harris is with a pick and the knowledge you could find another landing spot for him by February.

Exactly. Harris should rent and not buy in Cleveland if this trade were to go down.

 

[Birdy89]

Re: Rumor: Nets, Nuggets, Cavs were CLOSE to 3-way deal last week (Devin Harris to Ca

Anyone who thinks that Cleveland could somehow land a non-lottery protected pick for this year or next is smoking some good stuff. Denver is not going to do any trade where they trade off their star where any and all non lottery protected picks aren't going directly to them.

I suspect that Grant is foolishly over playing his hand and way over valuing that trade exception for what he wants for it, which will leave Cleveland on the outside looking in most likely when push comes to shove on these deals.

There are enough teams in the league with expiring contracts and trade exceptions that if Grant is being unrealistic for what he is asking they will look elsewhere.

One of the by products of having a league where only about 6-7 teams know they can legitimately win a title is that the other 20+ teams are doing everything they can to secure and hold onto draft picks, so what historically could be considered an acceptable return for certain moves is being driven down by the glut of teams willing to deal away cap space and expiring deals to build for the future. The old days of asking for and getting a ransom are over.

 

[theSTEREO.]

Re: Rumor: Nets, Nuggets, Cavs were CLOSE to 3-way deal last week (Devin Harris to Ca

I really doubt the Cavs are going to land the Nets 1st rounder. Call me crazy but the Nets pick lottery protected or not AND Devin Harris for the trade exemption? I don't think that's happening. If Varejao is invovled, maybe I can see that but not sure the Cavs will want to do that one.

Lol. Maybe you didn't read the title of the thread.

Its not NJ trading Devin Harris and a 1st for the TPE. it's NJ trading Harris and a 1st for Carmelo Anthony.

Biiiiiiiiiiiig difference.

 

[Phills14]

Re: Rumor: Nets, Nuggets, Cavs were CLOSE to 3-way deal last week (Devin Harris to Ca

Lol. Maybe you didn't read the title of the thread.

Its not NJ trading Devin Harris and a 1st for the TPE. it's NJ trading Harris and a 1st for Carmelo Anthony.

Biiiiiiiiiiiig difference.

No I completely understand the main part of this whole thing is Melo going to NJ. However; Denver reportidly wants 5 1st round picks. How Cleveland ends up with the best pick in the bunch is a little puzzeling to me. My point was I don't think Harris and NJ's pick going to Cleveland is realistic unless we are sending Denver a significant on the court asset, ala Anderson Varejao.

 

[NarlCavs]

Re: Rumor: Nets, Nuggets, Cavs were CLOSE to 3-way deal last week (Devin Harris to Ca

Right now these Carmelo trades are still in the negotiation process and teams involved of course will start off asking for a lot in return but the price becomes more realistic as the negotiations drag on.

It's very positive to see the Cavs positioning themselves to get involved in deals like this where they can add picks and/or longer term assets.

I'd be happy with something along the lines of Harris and a #1. Harris or even Mo can be turned into even more picks and gives the Cavs another proven player with trade value.
My thinking is the best way to use the TPE going forward is to take on contracts in a couple of trades and also receive at least one #1 in each deal. That's what OKC did with their TPE from the Rashard Lewis S&T and it helped them either directly or indirectly add multiple solid young rotation players.

 

[DatDudeZ3]

Re: Rumor: Nets, Nuggets, Cavs were CLOSE to 3-way deal last week (Devin Harris to Ca

Anyone know the exact date of the trade deadline this year?

 

[Rich]

Re: Rumor: Nets, Nuggets, Cavs were CLOSE to 3-way deal last week (Devin Harris to Ca

And are we getting Devin Harris or just a rumor?

Trade Rumors & Ideas. That is the name of this section. Wtf are you complaining about exactly?

 

[Rich]

Re: Rumor: Nets, Nuggets, Cavs were CLOSE to 3-way deal last week (Devin Harris to Ca

Anyone who thinks that Cleveland could somehow land a non-lottery protected pick for this year or next is smoking some good stuff. Denver is not going to do any trade where they trade off their star where any and all non lottery protected picks aren't going directly to them.

I suspect that Grant is foolishly over playing his hand and way over valuing that trade exception for what he wants for it, which will leave Cleveland on the outside looking in most likely when push comes to shove on these deals.

There are enough teams in the league with expiring contracts and trade exceptions that if Grant is being unrealistic for what he is asking they will look elsewhere.

One of the by products of having a league where only about 6-7 teams know they can legitimately win a title is that the other 20+ teams are doing everything they can to secure and hold onto draft picks, so what historically could be considered an acceptable return for certain moves is being driven down by the glut of teams willing to deal away cap space and expiring deals to build for the future. The old days of asking for and getting a ransom are over.

Reading entirely to much into a blub in one article. Why should Grant cave-in months before the deadline exactly?

 

[jerzy234]

Re: Rumor: Nets, Nuggets, Cavs were CLOSE to 3-way deal last week (Devin Harris to Ca

From Ken Berger Post Ups

Posted on: December 30, 2010 11:28 am
After an appropriate cooling-off period surrounding Carmelo Anthony trade talks after the tragic death of his sister, teams are beginning to get a renewed sense of where the Nuggets are strategy-wise. And once again, multiple sources tell CBSSports.com that Denver officials are sending mixed signals and still appear undecided as to whether they're seeking veteran players who can help them now or some combination of cap relief, draft picks and young players.

As a result of what one rival executive referred to as the Nuggets having "overplayed their hand" in negotiations with the Nets, frustrated New Jersey officials are in the process of "substantively" re-evaluating their pursuit of Anthony, a three-time All-Star who has refused to sign a three-year, $65 million extension with the Nuggets.

No one is fully aware of Anthony's mindset after he's missed five games grieving the loss of his sister, Michelle, who died tragically at 38 last week. But with trade demands that another executive described as "too high and unrealistic," the Nuggets run the risk of alienating the team that from the beginning had the most assets to offer -- starting with Derrick Favors, multiple first-round picks and the expiring contract of Troy Murphy.

The Nuggets' outward appearance of indecision could very well be a negotiating tactic, as a person with direct knowledge of Denver's strategy has told CBSSports.com that the team has decided it wants to get young and accumulate draft picks if and when they decide to trade Anthony -- not attempt to tread water with sub-par veteran replacements whose contracts would hinder the team's future flexibility. The other wild card, of course, is Anthony's reluctance to sign an extension with the Nets, which has been confirmed by a person with direct knowledge of his thinking.

In view of their frustration, the Nets have not yet gotten to the point where they're ready to pull all their chips off the table. But it's clear that the Nets are "sick of the whole charade," according to one source and have "backed away," according to another. And with that, we move along to the rest of the final 2010 edition of Post-Ups:

http://ken-berger.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/11838893/26731017

 

[Birdy89]

Re: Rumor: Nets, Nuggets, Cavs were CLOSE to 3-way deal last week (Devin Harris to Ca

a person with direct knowledge of Denver's strategy has told CBSSports.com that the team has decided it wants to get young and accumulate draft picks if and when they decide to trade Anthony -- not attempt to tread water with sub-par veteran replacements whose contracts would hinder the team's future flexibility.

That is what is making it hard for about 20 teams in the league who all want to do the exact same thing right now.

Outside of the 6-7 teams that have a shot to win it all, there are 20+ other teams who all want to shed their payroll and try and build through the draft like OKC.

Teams now realize you need a true superstar to have a legit shot to win a title (with the 04 Pistons being the lone exception the past 30+ years) and that unless you are in a desirable market the only way to get one is to tank and get a top pick because no amount of cap space will make a difference if no one wants to play in your market.

I really think the Cavs experience with Lebron has changed the way alot of teams are looking at how they go about building their teams and rosters, as well as showing the necessity of having a a true star and how important it is to be relevant in the league. That is only going to make it that much harder to rebuild for any team right now going forward.

 

[Rich]

Re: Rumor: Nets, Nuggets, Cavs were CLOSE to 3-way deal last week (Devin Harris to Ca

That is what is making it hard for about 20 teams in the league who all want to do the exact same thing right now.

Outside of the 6-7 teams that have a shot to win it all, there are 20+ other teams who all want to shed their payroll and try and build through the draft like OKC.

Teams now realize you need a true superstar to have a legit shot to win a title (with the 04 Pistons being the lone exception the past 30+ years) and that unless you are in a desirable market the only way to get one is to tank and get a top pick because no amount of cap space will make a difference if no one wants to play in your market.

I really think the Cavs experience with Lebron has changed the way alot of teams are looking at how they go about building their teams and rosters, as well as showing the necessity of having a a true star and how important it is to be relevant in the league. That is only going to make it that much harder to rebuild for any team right now going forward.

So the entire league has been oblivious to this fact for the last 3 decades? At what point was it not a necessity to have a superstarin order to win a title? It's always been that way. I highly doubt league execs are suddenly realizing what has been obvious for quite some time.

 

[B Mac]

Re: Rumor: Nets, Nuggets, Cavs were CLOSE to 3-way deal last week (Devin Harris to Ca

The Nuggets want 5 firsts? Give us NJ's first rounder and Ill give Denver both Miami 1st's. So there's 2 of the 5.

 

[Rich]

Re: Rumor: Nets, Nuggets, Cavs were CLOSE to 3-way deal last week (Devin Harris to Ca

The Nuggets want 5 firsts? Give us NJ's first rounder and Ill give Denver both Miami 1st's. So there's 2 of the 5.

Oy, the East is weak and with Carmelo I have to think the Nets can get that 8th seed, turning their lottery pick into a non-lottery pick. But maybe it's worth a shot.

I'll give up a miami 1st rounder or two if they send Lawson this way. Other than that, they won't be getting any of our first round picks in order to make it 5, which btw is entirely to much.