Seattle Mariners @ Cleveland Indians - August 22, 23, 24

[DaNewCavs]

Thome would be signed to help boost attendance and nothing more. If getting an extra 50K in the seats to see Thome gives us 1 million dollars extra to put towards a free agent next year, then I'll go with that.

 

[GreasySpread36]

If, at the beginning of the season, you would have known those players would have gone on the DL....where would you predict this team to finish?

This team greatly exceeded expectations despite being DECIMATED by injury.

Some of us had a pretty good idea that Sizemore and Hafner couldn't be counted on, and that counting on them was asking for trouble.

 

[Pyro]

Rumors swirling that we picked up Thome, and the Sox picked up Kubel.

 

[pr26]

Let's say that before the season, someone listed out our roster for the season to you and showed you all of the injuries we would sustain for the season. Then that person tells you that by the time we hit late August we'd be playing .500 ball and only 6 or so games back from contention. I think most here would have been jumping for joy and offering to kiss Acta's feet.

Though we were are more than likely out of contention (time left, I know), this season made the Indians relevant again. With another year of development under our teams belt and hopefully some luck on the injury front and there should be some big optimism for us to contend next year. Isn't that what we all wanted?

This "Acta needs to be yanked" talk is incredibly dense. We can't hold Acta responsible for not delivering on the optimism that an overachieving for 1/4 of the season produced. And yes, all managers make decisions that look terrible in hindsight. But is it really his fault that our offense could not support our excellent pitching, and then our offense wakes up and our pitching shits the bed in the last week?

I'm just glad we actually had a reason to give a crap this season....and I'm hopeful for next season despite how we end it this year.

 

[bushwick_bill]

Rumors swirling that we picked up Thome, and the Sox picked up Kubel.

From where?

 

[AZ_]

Some of us had a pretty good idea that Sizemore and Hafner couldn't be counted on, and that counting on them was asking for trouble.

Well, we all wait anxiously while some team hires you to predict injuries for them.

But until they do, I'll simply remind you that regardless of your incredible ability...the Indians had no choice but to count on those two players this season, given their contractual obligations.

Furthermore, that doesn't disprove my point at all.

What would you have said the outcome would be with both of those players missing huge chunks of time?

 

[RealKingofCleve]

Don't the red sox and yankees have more players on the dl than the indians? Lots of teams get hurt by injuries, up until now most of the injuries were spread out (only one or two guys injured at a time). This team has no depth, so keep making excuses. And even with the injuries, the mariners have 12 rookies up and we just lost 3 out of 4, pathetic.

 

[AZ_]

Don't the red sox and yankees have more players on the dl than the indians? Lots of teams get hurt by injuries, up until now most of the injuries were spread out (only one or two guys injured at a time). This team has no depth, so keep making excuses. And even with the injuries, the mariners have 12 rookies up and we just lost 3 out of 4, pathetic.

Yea, they should have depth like the Yankees and Red Sox.

It's simple!

 

[RealKingofCleve]

Yea, they should have depth like the Yankees and Red Sox.

It's simple!

Last year for the twins, Mauer missed around 30 games, Morneau missed half the season, they lost nathan for the entire season and managed to win 90+. It comes back on the Indians for poor drafting (sowers, crowe, ect...). And I'm not a rip on Dolan guy but when you only want to pay next to nothing for kearns, duncan, buck... You aren't going to have any depth.

 

[AZ_]

Last year for the twins, Mauer missed around 30 games, Morneau missed half the season, they lost nathan for the entire season and managed to win 90+. It comes back on the Indians for poor drafting (sowers, crowe, ect...). And I'm not a rip on Dolan guy but when you only want to pay next to nothing for kearns, duncan, buck... You aren't going to have any depth.

Mauer played in 137, which is hardly missing time. He was in the MVP discussion...I'm sure that was very rough for them.

They managed to survive. What happens this year when they ACTUALLY lost Mauer in addition to Morneau, Nathan, Nishioka, ect.?

The Twins have drafted like shit over the last decade.

 

[RealKingofCleve]

Mauer played in 137, which is hardly missing time. He was in the MVP discussion...I'm sure that was very rough for them.

They managed to survive. What happens this year when they ACTUALLY lost Mauer in addition to Morneau, Nathan, Nishioka, ect.?

The Twins have drafted like shit over the last decade.

This year was different as alot of their guys weren't able to duplicate their years, not just injuries (though those did hurt). And when you draft poorly, that hurts your depth. Yes the injuries sucked but the Indians were also helped by playing in the worst division in baseball. So they got some breaks too. With some better signings and drafting the injuries should have been manageable up until now. The bottom line is the indians weren't planning on competing this year and weren't prepared for it.

 

[AZ_]

This year was different as alot of their guys weren't able to duplicate their years, not just injuries (though those did hurt). And when you draft poorly, that hurts your depth. Yes the injuries sucked but the Indians were also helped by playing in the worst division in baseball. So they got some breaks too. With some better signings and drafting the injuries should have been manageable up until now. The bottom line is the indians weren't planning on competing this year and weren't prepared for it.

Injuries are manageable to a point.

When you lose Sizemore, Hafner, Choo and now Kipnis and Brantley having his play effected. That is not something teams overcome.

And you're kidding yourself if you think they could, good drafts or not.

 

[RealKingofCleve]

Injuries are manageable to a point.

When you lose Sizemore, Hafner, Choo and now Kipnis and Brantley having his play effected. That is not something teams overcome.

And you're kidding yourself if you think they could, good drafts or not.

I said up until now. But even before the last 3-4 games, they were playing below .500 ball with only two hurt at a time. Yes two still hurts, but in a crappy division like this, all they needed to play was .500 ball with those injuries. When shelley duncan is the backup dh, and kearns is your 4th outfielder, thats not good.

 

[Real Deal]

From where?

Swirling down his toilet.

 

[ajz20]

This year was different as alot of their guys weren't able to duplicate their years, not just injuries (though those did hurt). And when you draft poorly, that hurts your depth. Yes the injuries sucked but the Indians were also helped by playing in the worst division in baseball. So they got some breaks too. With some better signings and drafting the injuries should have been manageable up until now. The bottom line is the indians weren't planning on competing this year and weren't prepared for it.

You could not be more right with the statement that I bolded from the response. Dont waste your time arguing with some of the posters on here. They will be making excuses for the rest of their lives. Meanwhile this city has not won anything since 1964, and the Indians have not won a World Series since 1948. They settle for mediocrity and will always have an excuse lined up.