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Brandon Roy is athletic. Turner not so much. The NBA is a league full of athletic freaks. That is the major red flag of picking him. The potential probably is not that high as opposed to other players. He could be the Emeka Okafor of SG/SF. Solid but not great.
 
To all the Evan Turner Skepticism:
There are reasons why you guys are posting on realcavsfans.com;
There are reasons why other people are NBA Scouts and NOT YOU.
If you're convinced you really see Evan Turner for what he is and NBA Scouts don't; then you go ahead and keep on believing that.
Scouts aren't picking him because of his CPOY award,or else Hansbrough would have went top 5 last year.
They're picking him because he is pretty much a consensus sure thing.
There have been a lot more players picked in the top 5 that turned out to be good that turned into Busts people.

NBA scouts once said Danny Ferry was the next Larry Bird.

NBA scouts said Michael Olowakandi & Kwame Brown were worthy of #1 picks in the draft.

I'm not saying that Turner won't be successfull, but NBA scouts are wrong too, ya know.
 
It's possible, but extremely unlikely, that Evan Turner might turn out to be the biggest bust in NBA draft history. But it's ridiculous to not even take a chance on him if the only significant asset we'd be giving up is Mo Willliams. I'm not even sure Mo is an asset - his value might be negative since he hasn't been a great playoff performer. There shouldn't even be a debate on whether or not you'd include Mo for Brand/2nd - you do the trade and never look back, no questions asked.
 
Considering we'd still have Boobie, who I trust at the point, and Turner could play the point, along with everything else he would bring to the table, and LeBron plays the point half the time anyway, I'd give up Mo in a heartbeat to make something like this happen.
 
NBA scouts once said Danny Ferry was the next Larry Bird.

NBA scouts said Michael Olowakandi & Kwame Brown were worthy of #1 picks in the draft.

I'm not saying that Turner won't be successfull, but NBA scouts are wrong too, ya know.

i know,i know.But i'm pretty sure they're right more than they're wrong,or else they would be out of a job.
 
Considering we'd still have Boobie, who I trust at the point, and Turner could play the point, along with everything else he would bring to the table, and LeBron plays the point half the time anyway, I'd give up Mo in a heartbeat to make something like this happen.

Problem with that is Turner seems to be the guy that needs the ball. He likes playing isolation. He's an upgrade at the ft line though...
 
I think Turner is going to have similar stats to Demar Derozan (or even Iggy)in his rookie year. I just dont see Turner lighting the league up in his first 2 years. I think it will take him a little bit to learn, but he could end up being very good or very average.
 
Id rather have Igoudala. There are no surprises with that guy, an extremely athletic wing player that is a bit rough around the edges but can make defenses pay for overplaying Lebron.
 
i know,i know.But i'm pretty sure they're right more than they're wrong,or else they would be out of a job.

9 teams skipped over Lopez. I don't know if we've had the same scout for the last 10 years, but if we have then just look at all of the all stars that he has missed.
 
Teams only employ one scout?
 
5 teams passed over Kobe. A ton passed over Ginobli.
 
5 teams passed over Kobe. A ton passed over Ginobli.

No one passed over Kobe, the pussy said he would only play for the lakers unfairly, and the team traded his whinny ass instead of drafting and benching him until he stopped being a bitch.
 
that worked out a pretty good deal for charlotte at the time.
 
If I could I WOULD trade Mo for Turner straight up. But that is because I would start Gibson and Turner would fit because he would be an upgrade defensively from Mo.

I am not sure Turner will end up being a better player than Mo long term, but for team fit I would do it. Mo does one thing will, shoot the ball. That is a very important skill to have in the NBA. If you have a guy like that as a coach, your job should be to get him open looks. We never really did that with Mo. Watch Ray Allen, he needs a ton of picks to get open to shoot it...same for a guy like Reggie Miller back in the day, tons of picks to get open. Mo shoots the three ball BETTER than both of those guys. Think about that for a minute.

Gibson is a top 8 CAREER three point shooter, and yet he sat on the bench?!? Parker is top 10. Mo is around 30th in career three pt percentage. THREE of the top 30 ALL TIME on the same team. Why not set these guys picks to get them open looks?


I've written before that I think people are too hard on Mo, when I believe it had more to do with (yet once again...) coaching. Mo was one of the only players giving it his all in the Celtics series. He is what he is. Yet, Pop used Tony Parker (better facilitator, worse shooter, about the same defensively) and was able to maximizing his abilities so much that he won MVP of the finals. I think Mo needs a coach that can maximize his abilities.
 
Mo scored 20 points in the first half of game 6 against the best defense in the NBA. He can be that good. He is a freaking offensive juggernaut. But his defense sucks. That's why we need him to come off the bench and take over a quarter or a quarter and a half by himself. He is more effective that way.
 

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