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SJax and Z trade rumor

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As dumb as it sounds to trade Z for SJax...it sounds even MORE ignorant to trade Andy and West for him. This guy must be on some strong meds....hope they're prescribed.
 
I can't see us getting a deal even on the table for a Bosh or an Amare, so I think it's ridiculous for us to act like that's the only scenario we would make a trade. I don't think it'd be good to jump the gun and bring in a huge contract before we know our options, but if we can bring Z back, why the hell not bring in a big defensive wing who could bring us a championship?

People are worried about his contract, which I understand completely. But why do we worry about a future that won't even exist without success this season. I am so much more worried whether we can keep LeBron, and that depends almost completely on this year's championship run (IMO, I'd hope he stays regardless).
 
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I can't see us getting a deal even on the table for a Bosh or an Amare, so I think it's ridiculous for us to act like that's the only scenario we would make a trade. I don't think it'd be good to jump the gun and bring in a huge contract before we know our options, but if we can bring Z back, why the hell not bring in a big defensive wing who could bring us a championship?

People are worried about his contract, which I understand completely. But why do we worry about a future that won't even exist without success this season. I am so much more worried whether we can keep LeBron, and that depends almost completely on this year's championship run (IMO, I'd hope he stays regardless).
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agreed. people just want the grand slam plays. not happening.
 
Stephen Jackson rumors...They're back

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-45-36/Marc-Stein--Stephen-Jackson-a-Warrior--for-Now.html

A couple notes of clarification on the prospect of Golden State dealing Stephen Jackson to Cleveland in a swap featuring Zydrunas Ilgauskas, as introduced earlier Friday in this piece from the Contra Costa Times and brought to our attention, as always, by the boys at HoopsHype:

* Multiple plugged-in sources insist that these are not active discussions. It's no secret that the Warriors did make several calls before the season to gauge Captain Jack's value after Jackson's bombshell about wanting to be dealt to the Cavs, Knicks or one of the three Texas teams. But Golden State's talks with Cleveland were "nothing substantive," according to one source.
* As our man Brian Windhorst of the Cleveland Plain Dealer succinctly explained today via his Twitter feed, Cleveland's willingness to take on even more salary in trades than it already has does not mean that the Cavs are prepared to surrender a big man in the exchange unless they get a certifiable "star" back. Reason being: Cleveland knows it needs extra size if it wants to get past Orlando and Boston in the East and the Lakers in a theoretical Finals matchup.
* A theoretical Cavs-Warriors deal headlined by Jackson and Ilgauskas -- who's in the final year of his contract at $11.5 million -- would only provide Golden State with payroll relief. That's a big deal, but the Warriors would ideally like to bring back at least one player for the future (with a reasonable contract) if they're going to part with someone as important as Jackson, whereas I get the feeling that Cleveland is likely only willing to part with the likes of Daniel Gibson or Delonte West in addition to Ilgauskas.
* The reality remains that moving Jackson is going to be very difficult for the Warriors even if they decide they want to ship him out because his three-year, $27.8 million extension doesn't even kick in until next season. But the sense I get is that they're not pushing hard for a deal right now. It's simply too early in the season. In a month or three, maybe Cleveland or some other contender might be desperate (or at least looking) to add a difference-maker like Jackson. No team, in this economic climate, is going to absorb that sort of salary commitment before we even get to mid-October.
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There are threads made already.
 
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Windy quotes:

Z says he's ignoring Warriors trade rumor. As he should, Cavs won't trade big for small unless for a star. Stephen Jackson doesn't qualify.

When trade rumors come remember Cavs will take on salary but they want bigs back. They added size for LAL, Orl, Bos. Not giving it up now.
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Windy tweets:

Z says he's ignoring Warriors trade rumor. As he should, Cavs won't trade big for small unless for a star. Stephen Jackson doesn't qualify.

When trade rumors come remember Cavs will take on salary but they want bigs back. They added size for LAL, Orl, Bos. Not giving it up now.
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Yep, RCF has been saying these things since Jackson first made his quote a month ago. I wonder who Steins sources are, lol.
 
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This trade will, plain and simple, not happen. Period. Is there even a reason to make yet another thread for it? Even better, is there a reason to make yet another thread for it in this section? I'm pretty much positive there is this trade/rumor section of the site where this crap can go and fester like the turd pile it is. Seriously, it's nothing personal, but just because SJax says he wants to be here doesn't make this thing have any kind of legs at all. Just drop it already for cryin out loud.
 
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Mods Please lock and move all SJAx threads. This is a complete waste!!!!!
 
GS has just suspended S-Jax for two preseason games...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4549598

Agree with everyone else that it'd be fanciful to think of the Cavs trading Z for him. One, other than his connection with Mike Brown, we've been given no particular reason to think the Cavs are even interested in the guy. Two, given the quickly deteriorating situation in GS, his value is likely plummeting. Seems increasingly likely that GS will try to move him, and it will be interesting to see how this develops, because if they do manage to trade him, I can't imagine them getting much other than an expiring...

In this context, I find Stein's latest on the S-Jax rumors amusing. Given his contract and the state of his relationship with his team, it's not realistic that GS would be getting any assets in return. Any team that agreed to take him and his salary would be doing them a favor...By the way, this isn't the first time Stein has claimed the Cavs were interested in unloading Delonte...he said something over the summer about the Cavs possibly wanting to trade him, with no specific trade possibilities mentioned. We all dismissed this rumor at the time as being ignorant of the Cavs' regard for Delonte, but given subsequent events involving Delonte, maybe they weren't totally baseless.
 
That's a big deal, but the Warriors would ideally like to bring back at least one player for the future (with a reasonable contract) if they're going to part with someone as important as Jackson, whereas I get the feeling that Cleveland is likely only willing to part with the likes of Daniel Gibson or Delonte West in addition to Ilgauskas.
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That article was fine until they state what the Cavs may be willing to do. Oh yeah sure buddy; the Cavs would trade Delonte and Z for Jackson. What are you smoking? Ya can't be serious!!

It's comical how many out there truly have no clue.
 
I think it would be better and it would not be big for small if we traded Boobie and AP for Jackson. Now this can't happen until December (I think) because we just signed AP but it would make much more sense for us then trading Z would. Z + JJ at the deadline could really net us a very good player.
 
Windy said a long time ago, that we had no interest in Jackson. Wrong timing.
 
Shaq and Z at center helps offset their age and should keep both ready for the playoffs. With the way Hickson has been playing, pairing him with Z off the bench is going to be hard for a lot of teams to handle.

Also we know that Shaq was brought in to help out with Howard. So now Howard gets to bang against Shaq and when Shaq sits down Howard gets the choice of leaving Z open for the midrange shot or trying to cover him. I know last year he covered Varejao but now Z is coming off the bench probably paired with JJ or against the Magic put Z out there at C and Lebron at PF. Since we've added height at the swing positions and the Magic actually got smaller in losing Turk, Lebron is likely to line up at PF more against the Magic. We can put Lebron on Lewis and use Parker, West or Moon on Carter and then play some ball.
 
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