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Tornicade said:
Cool as in "someone shouldn't spend a year in jail for taking a crap"

up to 60 days with no fine seems a lot more reasonable.
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Sometimes it needs to come out and fuck I would take the jail time over what happens if you do not.
 
Tornicade said:
Cool as in "someone shouldn't spend a year in jail for taking a crap"

up to 60 days with no fine seems a lot more reasonable.
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What seems reasonable is "don't shit in literally the street".

This is a penalty adjustment in order to protect the immigrant community. If people come here to poop in the streets, it's not unreasonable to motion to deport them. We aren't benefitting from their"citizenshjp", they clearly aren't making it work here. At all. Nor are they even trying. If they can't find a public restroom, they can't make it here. Their only job at that point is literally to eat and shit, and they're failing at properly facilitating 50% of their duties.

I'm sure "bigot" though. Bigot if you don't want public defication. There are people who are struggling and there are people who don't possess the capacity to follow even the most rudimentary social norms or make even the slightest effort.


The homeless moved into my neighborhood. Which is incredible. It's a wealthier neighborhood. My landlord had to install barricades because they were camping out in our alley and shitting in the car ports. I saw a man pissing around noon today with literally no walls around him whatsoever. Sidewalk of the grocery strip.

You be empathetic all you want. It doesn't help them, it doesn't help people who have to live with it. I pay 1500 a month for less than 600sq ft and ive been as close to roommates with homeless people as possible and share their privacy much more than I'd like. We shared a wall in may.

This is your city on cuck.
 
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What the hell just happened the last couple pages?

I just shat on a deer fawn. Am I going to jail?
 
I was just in Denver for a conference.

Every corner had a panhandler who looked like they hadn't showered or washed their clothes in five years. The smell as well. My God.

I have nothing against homeless people... But should they really be in the business district? I guess that's where the money is.
 
Totally illegal?

No, of course it's not.
 
David. said:
What seems reasonable is "don't shit in literally the street".

This is a penalty adjustment in order to protect the immigrant community. If people come here to poop in the streets, it's not unreasonable to motion to deport them. We aren't benefitting from their"citizenshjp", they clearly aren't making it work here. At all. Nor are they even trying. If they can't find a public restroom, they can't make it here. Their only job at that point is literally to eat and shit, and they're failing at properly facilitating 50% of their duties.

I'm sure "bigot" though. Bigot if you don't want public defication. There are people who are struggling and there are people who don't possess the capacity to follow even the most rudimentary social norms or make even the slightest effort.


The homeless moved into my neighborhood. Which is incredible. It's a wealthier neighborhood. My landlord had to install barricades because they were camping out in our alley and shitting in the car ports. I saw a man pissing around noon today with literally no walls around him whatsoever. Sidewalk of the grocery strip.

You be empathetic all you want. It doesn't help them, it doesn't help people who have to live with it. I pay 1500 a month for less than 600sq ft and ive been as close to roommates with homeless people as possible and share their privacy much more than I'd like. We shared a wall in may.

This is your city on cuck.
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I checked around..
in Columbus

Depending on your prior record, a public urination or defecation charge can range from a minor misdemeanor, punishable by up to a $150 fine to a third degree misdemeanor, punishable by up to 60 days in jail.


Denver actually corrected to their ordinances to fall in line with the rest of the country.

More cities should recalibrate their laws.

Using Jails to control the indigent population regardless if their immigrants or plain US born Hobos or the guy taking a piss (apparently sometimes a crap)in an an alleyway on their way home from a bar.



perhaps if they were given pooper scooper they can get the same freedoms as people walking their dogs instead of being branded criminals because they couldn't find a bathroom.

There is one city call delta trails or something that has outlawed spitting.. initially the ordinance applied to buses and sidewalks now a guy can get arrested for spitting in his own yard. spitting with the same legal consequences as urinating or defecating in public.


there are a lot of laws on the books that are "tools" for cops to discriminately arrest people on charges that are passed with the intnt " we aren't gonna force it regularly. "


just as there are regulations that aren't enforced unless someone pisses someone off.



Any law or ordinance that isn't administered equally and consistently should be scrutinized and adjusted and sometimes removed. not just give cops or regulators an excuse to cite someone they don't like.
 
caf said:
How are the Comey leaks different from the General Petraeus leaks?
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Because General Petraeus leaked classified information to his former mistress. He then lied about it when questioned.

Comey's memo was not classified, nor did he lie about how it was handled.


Are you even being serious trying to compare the two or did you pick this up off Red State also?
 
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Theres is a lot of reasons why COmey's memo was not executive privilege. -
1. Comey is no longer an administration official. firing Comey released him from being silenced by Executive privilege.
2. Trump also opened the conversations to public when he discussed those conversations.
3. there was no classified information in the memos.
4. just to reinforce number 1. once Comey was fired he became a private citizen. there are no prohibitions on private citizens discussing conversations with president as long as no classified information is revealed.
5. the memos were written specifically to exclude any classified information that may have been involved in the conversation.

If Comey left copies of the memos with the the FBI he should be fine.

but there is nothing in regard to "executive privilege" that applies.
 
caf said:
How are the Comey leaks different from the General Petraeus leaks?
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The biggest difference is Comey was a private citizen when he leaked so he can make the argument he wasn't bound to the same rules a government employee would be.

It will be interesting though....a case can be made he also broke the law.

He may have also perjured himself if it's ever proven he leaked prior to the 12th, which he likely did seeing as the NYT was printing quotes out of his memos on the 11th. Just such a bizarre situation all the way around....
 
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Comey didn't break any laws.
 
I don't think Comey's leaks were illegal. It's a bit sketchy if they were prepared on FBI computers or in the workplace, even if he prepared them after being fired. But absent that, probably not illegal. Nor do I think it's a big deal even if it was illegal.

I do think it is illustrative of him being way too politicized, both in the Hillary investigation and this one. With respect to Hillary, he should have gone to Congress regarding his concerns over Loretta Lynch rather than trying to finesse it all on his own.

We all would have been saved a lot of headaches had he just been fired day 1, as he should have been.
 
The Human Q-Tip said:
I don't think Comey's leaks were illegal. It's a bit sketchy if they were prepared on FBI computers or in the workplace, even if he prepared them after being fired. But absent that, probably not illegal. Nor do I think it's a big deal even if it was illegal.

I do think it is illustrative of him being way too politicized, both in the Hillary investigation and this one. With respect to Hillary, he should have gone to Congress regarding his concerns over Loretta Lynch rather than trying to finesse it all on his own.

We all would have been saved a lot of headaches had he just been fired day 1, as he should have been.
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but you know.. he did that thing.


I agree Comey was way too political minded
 
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