The Capricious Non partisan Government Arbitrary Action thread.

[caf]

False.

Can you show me the evidence?

How would we establish motive to this question?

Let me rephrase then...

True or false.

Documents regarding Flynn were illegally leaked to the press.

 

[gourimoko]

Can you show me the evidence?

I can show you some of what's publicly available. But to be clear, are we talking about the Trump campaign and it's associates or Donald Trump personally?

Let me rephrase then...

True or false.

Documents regarding Flynn were illegally leaked to the press.

True.

 

[Sebastian]

True or false.

There is no evidence Trump colluded with Russia?

True or false.

Documents regarding Flynn were illegally leaked to the press for political gain?

You're more concerned that people found out about wrong-doing than the actual wrong-doing?

Both are wrong. But one is not like the other.

 

[bob2the2nd]

True or false.

There is no evidence Trump colluded with Russia?

Are we talking Trump himself or his associates?

we absolutely know Trumps associates have colluded with Russia.

Trump himself colluding with Russia is under investigating as Nancy Yates inferred yesterday.

This just looks guilty as Fuck. Nixon fired the person investigating him too.....

 

[gourimoko]

Are we talking Trump himself or his associates?

we absolutely know Trumps associates have colluded with Russia.

Precisely. I'm not sure if @caf is not aware of this?

Trump's own campaign manager was a Russian agent.

 

[gourimoko]

 

[gourimoko]

 

[bob2the2nd]

the man that had to step a side for the russian investigation gets to advise the president to fire the guy doing the investigation now.

not shady at all.

 

[Hurl Bruce]

This stuff is like a kid writing his own excuse for why he wasn't in school one day.

 

[gourimoko]

the man that had to step a side for the russian investigation gets to advise the president to fire the guy doing the investigation now.

not shady at all.

Again.. its.. remarkable.. Sessions is in no position whatsoever to advise firing Comey; let alone for Comey's actions with respect to the Clinton investigation. As if Sessions is not directly doing the bidding of the President.

 

[gourimoko]

As I stated in the other thread; (NYT and CNN) it appears Comey did not know and did not receive the letter from Trump's bodyguard. He found out about it during a speech here in L.A. while it was on the news.

Pretty insane they didn't just call him up on his cellphone.

 

[czvo]

Again.. its.. remarkable.. Sessions is in no position whatsoever to advise firing Comey; let alone for Comey's actions with respect to the Clinton investigation. As if Sessions is not directly doing the bidding of the President.

Sessions APPLAUDED Comey's decision to write that letter a week before the election.

I feel like I'm in the goddamn twilight zone.

 

[DJTJ]

Calling my shot; Mike Pence will be president by 2018.

Edit: he'd likely be out too. This shit is fucking incredible.

 

[gourimoko]

‘It’s a deeply unsettling moment’
Michael Waldman, president of the Brennan Center for Justice at NYU School of Law, is the author of The Fight to Vote and The Second Amendment: A Biography.

It’s a deeply unsettling moment.

This has every appearance of a brazen cover-up, a possible act of obstruction of justice, just as much as Richard Nixon firing the Watergate special prosecutor Archibald Cox in October 1973. That’s the only comparable historical precedent. That led to a constitutional crisis and a public outpouring of anger. Will this?

Trump's rationale is transparently, laughably absurd. Does anyone actually believe that Donald Trump fired Comey because Comey was unfair to Hillary Clinton during the campaign?

Let's be very clear what happened here. For all his flaws and mistakes, Comey is leading an investigation of extraordinary gravity: possible collusion between Trump, his campaign and administration, and a hostile foreign power. Remember, Jeff Sessions recused himself from the investigation because he himself lied to Congress about conversations with Russia. So he did the next best thing, recommending that the person leading the investigation--Comey--be fired.

It comes a day after the former Acting Attorney General clearly implied there was an ongoing FBI investigation of Michael Flynn. It comes before Comey was due to testify again.

Comey made many errors. But does anyone trust Trump to nominate his successor, the person who will effectively lead the investigation? How can Americans have trust in their government without even the pretense of independence for key investigations?

This is an extraordinary test of our democracy and its institutions. Will the Republicans in Congress stand up for the rule of law and independent investigations, at a time when a hostile foreign power has tried to interfere in our democracy? Will they stand up for country or party?

 

[gourimoko]

Sessions APPLAUDED Comey's decision to write that letter a week before the election.

I feel like I'm in the goddamn twilight zone.

The interesting thing will be to see if the Administration can get Republican voters and conservatives at large to actually buy into their rationale; whatever that rationale may be. Because if they can turn this into simply another partisan issue, then that's a win for the President.

The FBI is essentially dead in the water regarding any pending investigation that was being head by Comey as of this moment. The Senate Intelligence Committee; according to Sen. Mark Warner could potentially be affected since they were set to begin closed-door meetings with Comey regarding the Trump investigation.

So as of right now, it's hard to imagine how this investigation could move forward, legitimately, without a special prosecutor.