The next star or super star safari.

[Snarly]

TT, Shump, and Jefferson could get us close to a star player money wise right? Lets hope some GM hopefully in the Central hates GS that much they give one away to us.

 

[istanbul-23]

I'd love DeMarcus Cousins in this team.

Yes, he's crazy but still, he'd make us much better...

 

[TheISHT]

If I'm the Cavs, Lebron aging, I'm going "All In".

I trade Love/Filler for George/CJ. Miles.

I trade Kyrie/filler for either Jimmy/Lopez or I look to the Pelicans and go after Jrue/Cousins.

I trade a combo of Jefferson, Frye, Smith, Shumpert, Felder, TT, draft pick, foreign dud that is supposed to come over, etc. I also go after Carmelo/Lee.

ACQUIRE WADE when bought out. Really the best case would be MELO and Wade forcing Buyouts.

PG LEBRON /Deron (if resigned)
SG LEE / WADE
SF BUTLER / KORVER
PF GEORGE / MELO
C LOPEZ / FA

I know this has no conceivable chance of happening, but something like this is what it would take to beat the Warriors.

 

[Rich]

Dwayne wade can opt out this year and a bunch of Cyptic tweets lately. If that was a possibility, and Love for George was on the table, now would be the time to slide lebron to the 4... Hmm, would this match up with the warriors..

Kyrie
Dwade
Paul George
Lebron
TT

On paper I'd definetly take it over the warriors current lineup of

Steph
Klay
Kd
draymond
zaza

WHy? They're better everywhere, sans LeBron. Steph is a better player. Klay is a much better player. Durant is a significantly better player. And if you've been watching TT at all this series, he barely even registers as a player.

 

[iWx]

PG or Butler + Melo would be the answer. You take pressure off Kyrie/Lebron offensively and you take a load off Lebron defensively.

Cavs get more athletic and we would have 4 players who can get their own shot. Small ball line ups would be insane.

You could play PG or Butler 40 + minutes also. Love is only averaging 33 mins a game in the finals. 7-10 extra minutes a game in the finals with a star is a lot of flexibility.

 

[Bob_The_Cat]

I hate his contract, but would anyone swap TT for Batum? Batum is making more money so we'd have to send Shump or JR as well (and maybe get another big back). Batum's not a superstar, but he's a good fit and another guy you could throw on Durant. Obvious issue is he's getting paid star money.

I think of we're trading TT we're likely having to do something where we take back a player who's a better fit but maybe on a worse contract.

 

[KCOTT]

If I'm the Cavs, Lebron aging, I'm going "All In".

I trade Love/Filler for George/CJ. Miles.

I trade Kyrie/filler for either Jimmy/Lopez or I look to the Pelicans and go after Jrue/Cousins.

I trade a combo of Jefferson, Frye, Smith, Shumpert, Felder, TT, draft pick, foreign dud that is supposed to come over, etc. I also go after Carmelo/Lee.

ACQUIRE WADE when bought out. Really the best case would be MELO and Wade forcing Buyouts.

PG LEBRON /Deron (if resigned)
SG LEE / WADE
SF BUTLER / KORVER
PF GEORGE / MELO
C LOPEZ / FA

I know this has no conceivable chance of happening, but something like this is what it would take to beat the Warriors.

ewwww

 

[Snarly]

PiP fuck you and your title "Safari" I have this for you. Mwahahahha....

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xohCu9LdcQ8

 

[Bob_The_Cat]

I know this has been talked about previously in other threads, but what are the Cavs restrictions on recieving a player via S&T? I don't believe they can, but just wanted to check.

 

[Bob_The_Cat]

TT, Shump, and Jefferson could get us close to a star player money wise right? Lets hope some GM hopefully in the Central hates GS that much they give one away to us.

Thought this through a bit more and how the Cavs could land Melo without trading anyone of consequence. No team is going to give the Knicks much value at this point. It's basically going to be a complete salary dump.

Anyway, here's my two moves to make the Cavs a GS killer:

Trade #1

Cavs Get:
Robert Covington
Gerald Henderson
2017 2nd Rounder

76ers Get:
Shump
Rights to Cedi

Why for the Cavs?

Covington is 6'9", 215, long, extremely tough defensively, could guard Green or Durant, and has shown the ability to shoot the 3 in the past. Would be great to pair with LBJ in small ball lineups. Adds a dynamic to the bench that the Cavs have never had. Will discuss Henderson in second trade.

Why for the 76ers?

With Simmons coming back this season, there isn't as much of an immediate need for Covington. Covington will also be a free agent following next season and I'm not so sure Philly is going to want to pay him what he commands given they have Simmons in tow. They have next to nothing at SG and could use a solid veteran on the team.

The 76ers really liked Cedi and they knew a lot about him as Cedi and Saric played together in Turkey. If they go Ball/Fox at #3, the core of Ball/Fox, Cedi, Simmons, Saric, and Embiid is damn good moving forward. They also have a ton of cap space as well as two 1sts next year. They'd be in a great position moving forward.


Trade #2
Cavs Get:
Melo

Knicks Get:
Henderson
Frye
RJ

Why for the Cavs? Duh

Why for the Knicks?

Knicks are sending out $24.5 mill in salary and only receiving $19.3 mill in return, an instant savings of over $5 mill. Henderson is making $9 mill this year of which only $1 mill is guaranteed, meaning they could cut him and instantly save $8 mill. RJ is making $2.5 mill and I fully expect him to retire after this year, especially if he gets traded to the Knicks. Channing will have one year left at $7.8 mill. If he doesn't retire, I'm sure the Knicks could likely buy him out at somewhere around $4-5 mill.

While they wouldn't be getting any player assets out of it, the Knicks would have the potential of immediately cutting somewhere in the range of $18 mill of the cap this year and getting out of the $28 mill in the last year of Melo's contract. This would give them somewhere in the neighborhood of $55 mill in free agency this year.


This would seem to be a big win for everyone involved. The Cavs would have some other moves to make to fill out the bench and would have to figure out lineups, but I'm assuming it'd be something like this:

PG: Kyrie
SG: LeBron, Smith, Korver?
SF: Melo, Covington
PF: Love, Covington
C: TT

If the right trade came along, maybe you entertain moving TT for more of a shot-blocker at C. I wouldn't trade him just to trade him, but I think it makes sense if you can get a 2-for-1 type deal.

The possibilities are endless on this though.

BIG Lineup:
PG: LeBron
SG: Covington
SF: Melo
PF: Love
C: TT

RIP Lineup:
PG: Kyrie
SG: LeBron
SF: Covington
PF: Melo
C: Love

Rest LeBron Lineup:
PG: Kyrie
SG: Smith
SF: Melo
PF: Covington
C: Love

 

[bboy]

I think what will likely happen is that Melo will get bought out and D Wade will opt out. Good chance one or both will be on the team next year. We are not going to trade Love, Kyrie or TT ...we wont get anyone better in return for them...We are not that far off from the Warriors. We really need to focus on youth and defense from the bench and dump some dead weight

 

[Real Deal]

I think what will likely happen is that Melo will get bought out and D Wade will opt out. Good chance one or both will be on the team next year. We are not going to trade Love, Kyrie or TT ...we wont get anyone better in return for them...We are not that far off from the Warriors. We really need to focus on youth and defense from the bench and dump some dead weight

People will disagree, Melo is owed an extreme amount of money, and he'll want every bit of it. People would also say it's better for Knicks to dump him while getting picks, any kind of picks.

My suggestion was flipping Shumpert to Philly and getting a pick from them because they have a freight's worth.

 

[CavsRules]

I love the idea of adding Robert Covington. Been a fan of his for a few years now and would love him off the bench for this team.

If the Cavs decide they don't want to move Love and get Paul George, or that they just simply feel like they can just add Carmelo Anthony and then compete against Golden State with a few tweaks, the biggest being Melo coming in.. I'd approve.

Richard Jefferson has had a lot of playing time in 4 games against the Warriors. Picture Melo taking those minutes and how much better the offense can be, it would allow LeBron to rest longer than 30 seconds, as you could throw out Kyrie, Love(or PG), and Melo and let them run and gun to try and give Bron the biggest rest possible.

This off-season will be a crazy one, win or lose this year.

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[Stark]

Would kill for Covington on this team. Good three point shooter (33%), good perimeter size, and an extremely underrated perimeter defender.

 

[JMoneyYourHoney]

Would kill for Covington on this team. Good three point shooter (33%), good perimeter size, and an extremely underrated perimeter defender.

33% is not good...