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The Victor Oladipo Thread

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Hindsight is 20/20.

I'd just be happy that it's not looking like Dion is going to bust and will likely be a very solid player in this league as early as this year.

Sure, a lineup of Irving - Oladipo - Barnes - Thompson - Varejao/Bynum looks great, but I'm sure that our current Irving - Waiters - Clark/Gee - Thompson/Bennett - Varejao/Bynum will be just fine.
 
Yeap. Drummond and Oladipo have the potential to be defensive anchors and we had the chance to pick them.
 
Yeah...hearing everyone whine about Oladipo for the foreseeable future is gonna be worse than it was with JV or Drummond...mainly because Oladipo will have some nice inflated stats in Orlando and Bennett will have a minor role this year.
 
Waiters didnt stop Victor from being drafted just as Thompson didnt stop the Cavs from drafting Bennett.
 
Tornicade said:
Waiters didnt stop Victor from being drafted just as Thompson didnt stop the Cavs from drafting Bennett.
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Of course, but at this moment Tristan is looking a lot better than Dion, which could make this a bitter pill to swallow.



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TyGuy said:
Of course, but at this moment Tristan is looking a lot better than Dion, which could make this a bitter pill to swallow.
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I feel better about Waiters heading into this season than I felt about Tristan heading into last year.

It's going to be a few seasons before we can really evaluate who Grant should or shouldn't have taken.
 
Look, there is no denying that Grant made two very unexpected picks with Waiters and Bennett. He went against the conventional thinking, and against most scouting reports.

Those decisions deserve scrutiny, and fans shouldn't shy away from questioning the general manager's decisions. Now, it's pretty early to judge Bennett, but Waiters and Drummond have had a full year of regular season play. If Grant had went with conventional wisdom, I don't think he'd have drafted Waiters over the a valuable big, who was considered a potential franchise center. Not at the #4 pick.

Lillard was never an option, and I don't think we ever seriously considered Robinson (considering we already had Thompson), so either Drummond or Barnes were the natural picks.

This same logic will be used throughout this season and next to question drafting Bennett over Oladipo. I think it's fair considering the two draft selections were certainly surprises and somewhat unorthodox.
 
Just from a defensive standpoint and fit, Oladipo is better than Dion. Dion, however, is more offensively talented. I imagine Oladipo having Wade's unique ability to be a weakside shot blocker in the pick and roll defense and the ability to lock down the 1-3 positions.
 
I'm staying optimistic about Waiters, but you may find yourself surprised on how favorably Dipo's offense compares with Waiters as well.

I think he's going to score in the NBA just as easily as Dion does.
 
I'm a big fan of Oladipo's, but to say he'll score as easily as Dion is crazy. He probably has the worst handle of any point guard in the NBA by a wide margin, and his jumper is still very inconsistent. He definitely showed flashes in the preseason, and he's fun to watch, but at the end of the day he shot 41% from the field and 24% from 3...not exactly tearing it up. I'm hard pressed to think of anything Oladipo does better than Waiters on offense (besides offensive rebounding). Defense is another matter, of course.
 
Nathan S said:
I'm a big fan of Oladipo's, but to say he'll score as easily as Dion is crazy. He probably has the worst handle of any point guard in the NBA by a wide margin, and his jumper is still very inconsistent. He definitely showed flashes in the preseason, and he's fun to watch, but at the end of the day he shot 41% from the field and 24% from 3...not exactly tearing it up. I'm hard pressed to think of anything Oladipo does better than Waiters on offense (besides offensive rebounding). Defense is another matter, of course.
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We'll see by the end of the regular season who is better, but Oladipo was fairly efficient in his last year at Indiana. Hopefully Dion can really get going and put this to rest.
 
Nathan S said:
I'm a big fan of Oladipo's, but to say he'll score as easily as Dion is crazy.
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Crazy? Guy hasn't played a regular season game yet and in the pre-season games he has played, he was significantly better than Dion was. I'm just making a prediction based on what I saw of Oladipo at the college level and in pre-season and I watched a ton of him. He finds ways to score.


Nathan S said:
He probably has the worst handle of any point guard in the NBA by a wide margin
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If he was a true PG, then this would be a for sure. However, I'd have to think he's not going to be spending FULL time at the PG position, likely for that exact reason and for the fact that he'll look more comfortable scoring from the SG position anywyas. He's just not real fluid with the ball for extended periods of time.

Nathan S said:
and his jumper is still very inconsistent.
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So is Dion's, particularly during summer league, preseason and the start of last season.


Nathan S said:
He definitely showed flashes in the preseason, and he's fun to watch, but at the end of the day he shot 41% from the field and 24% from 3...not exactly tearing it up.
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Dion shot 34% from the field last pre-season, 37% in his first month in the league, 34% in his second month and didn't exceed 41% until month 3. Oh, and he shot 41% from the field this pre-season.

So, Oladipo is ahead of the game. :chuckles:


Nathan S said:
I'm hard pressed to think of anything Oladipo does better than Waiters on offense (besides offensive rebounding). Defense is another matter, of course.
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Guess we'll see quite soon! As for defense, it's pretty valuable and he should be significantly ahead of Waiters, but my argument was about offense anyways.
 
gourimoko said:
We'll see by the end of the regular season who is better, but Oladipo was fairly efficient in his last year at Indiana. Hopefully Dion can really get going and put this to rest.
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"fairly" efficient is an understatement...I totally understand how extraordinary his shooting numbers were in college. But he did his best work off the ball in college, spotting up for 3's, finishing off cuts, getting garbage buckets on offensive rebounds, etc. Playing point guard in Orlando, he'll have to get buckets in a completely different way. I honestly don't see why they're pushing him to be a point guard, other than the fact that they're tanking. It seems to negate his strengths and expose his weaknesses offensively.
 
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