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Tracy McGrady

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Year after year after year people talk about how players care more about winning than making money...and then those same people use that as an argument for why that player may come to the Cavs. And then, they're heart broken when, yet again, that player takes money over winning.

So please, everyone who is saying that Tracy cares more about winning than getting another contract, are retarded.

Would I like to see him in a Cavs uniform? Sure. Depending on what it takes to get him.

Will he take less money to play here...come on...are you really that dumb?
 
Look i think we should try to get T-Mac. we can ease him into the line up. the reason i say this because:
1. THIS IS LEBRON'S TEAM: meaning that he he doesn't have to take the load himself. like in Orlando t-mac single handly took detroit to a 7th game, and his teammates were garbage.
2. HIS PLAYOFF STATS: he has one of the highest points per game in the playoffs and nearly averages a triple double.
3. WHAT HE BRINGS: he is 6-9 can play the number 2 spot, can be a 8-10 pt scorer, can play defense, and maybe not now but he still has some clutchness in him too.
the 8-10 pts just might be enough because we got Lebron (duh), Mo, Shaq, Z, J.J, Boobie, Powe (when he gets back), Delonte, Parker, Moon, and Varejao. Just look at all these people on our team it will be stacked. plus i think he can bring more to the table Coby Karl, Jawad Willams and Danny Green.
I STILL THINK THE CAVS ARE MISSING A PIECE
JUST THINK ABOUT THIS FOR A MOMENT:
PG: MO, BOOBIE, AND DELONTE
SG: PARKER AND MOON
SF: LEBRON
PF: J.J., VAREJAO, POWE
C: SHAQ AND Z
SEE VAREJAO CAN SWITCH FROM PF TO C ALSO AND SEE WHERE
ALL ARE PG ARE TO SMALL TO PLAY SG AND WE GOT EXPOSED AGAINST ORLANDO, THIS YEARS TEAM IS GOOD ENOUGH TO BEAT ORLANDO BUT NOT BOSTON LAST YEARS TEAM WAS GOOD ENOUGH TO BEAT BOSTON. SO THIS IS WHERE T-MAC COMES IN EITHER AT SG OR SF. WHILE LEBRON IS TAKING A BREATHER T-MAC CAN COME IN AND OUR LINE UP WON'T BE SMALL.
PEOPLE REMEMBER IN BUSSINESS THE BIG RISK TAKERS GET A HIGH REWARD YES T-MAC IS INJURY PRONE BUT IF HE IS HEALTHY NO ONE CAN STOP THE CAVS THIS YEAR. AND REMEMBER THAT HE WAS INJURED BECAUSE HE ALWAYS HAD TO CARRY HIS TEAMS. IF YOU LOOKED AT ALL THE PLAYOFF SERIES T-MAC HAS PLAYED IN HE HAS THE BEST STATS. ADD THE SERIES THAT HE PLAYED IN WITH YAO, YAO HAS STRUGGLED.
WE WIN A TITLE LEBRON STAYS FOR SURE, SHAQ WILL PROBABLY RESIGN, MO STAYS, AND WE ADD A COUPLE MORE PIECES NEXT YEAR AND CLEVELAND'S FINALLY GOT A DYNASTY.
T-MAC RIGHT PIECE FOR CHAMPIONSHIP
 
Look i think we should try to get T-Mac. we can ease him into the line up. the reason i say this because:
1. THIS IS LEBRON'S TEAM: meaning that he he doesn't have to take the load himself. like in Orlando t-mac single handly took detroit to a 7th game, and his teammates were garbage.
2. HIS PLAYOFF STATS: he has one of the highest points per game in the playoffs and nearly averages a triple double.
3. WHAT HE BRINGS: he is 6-9 can play the number 2 spot, can be a 8-10 pt scorer, can play defense, and maybe not now but he still has some clutchness in him too.
the 8-10 pts just might be enough because we got Lebron (duh), Mo, Shaq, Z, J.J, Boobie, Powe (when he gets back), Delonte, Parker, Moon, and Varejao. Just look at all these people on our team it will be stacked. plus i think he can bring more to the table Coby Karl, Jawad Willams and Danny Green.
I STILL THINK THE CAVS ARE MISSING A PIECE
JUST THINK ABOUT THIS FOR A MOMENT:
PG: MO, BOOBIE, AND DELONTE
SG: PARKER AND MOON
SF: LEBRON
PF: J.J., VAREJAO, POWE
C: SHAQ AND Z
SEE VAREJAO CAN SWITCH FROM PF TO C ALSO AND SEE WHERE
ALL ARE PG ARE TO SMALL TO PLAY SG AND WE GOT EXPOSED AGAINST ORLANDO, THIS YEARS TEAM IS GOOD ENOUGH TO BEAT ORLANDO BUT NOT BOSTON LAST YEARS TEAM WAS GOOD ENOUGH TO BEAT BOSTON. SO THIS IS WHERE T-MAC COMES IN EITHER AT SG OR SF. WHILE LEBRON IS TAKING A BREATHER T-MAC CAN COME IN AND OUR LINE UP WON'T BE SMALL.
PEOPLE REMEMBER IN BUSSINESS THE BIG RISK TAKERS GET A HIGH REWARD YES T-MAC IS INJURY PRONE BUT IF HE IS HEALTHY NO ONE CAN STOP THE CAVS THIS YEAR. AND REMEMBER THAT HE WAS INJURED BECAUSE HE ALWAYS HAD TO CARRY HIS TEAMS. IF YOU LOOKED AT ALL THE PLAYOFF SERIES T-MAC HAS PLAYED IN HE HAS THE BEST STATS. ADD THE SERIES THAT HE PLAYED IN WITH YAO, YAO HAS STRUGGLED.
WE WIN A TITLE LEBRON STAYS FOR SURE, SHAQ WILL PROBABLY RESIGN, MO STAYS, AND WE ADD A COUPLE MORE PIECES NEXT YEAR AND CLEVELAND'S FINALLY GOT A DYNASTY.
T-MAC RIGHT PIECE FOR CHAMPIONSHIP

Turn the Billy Mays mode off dude.... Seriously.
 
If he doesnt come here i want him to go to Phoenix. I think they will make him 100% healthy (like they did Grant Hill) and show us the old Tmac. That would be something for sore eyes.
 
I STILL THINK THE CAVS ARE MISSING A PIECE
JUST THINK ABOUT THIS FOR A MOMENT:
PG: MO, BOOBIE, AND DELONTE
SG: PARKER AND MOON
SF: LEBRON
PF: J.J., VAREJAO, POWE
C: SHAQ AND Z
SEE VAREJAO CAN SWITCH FROM PF TO C ALSO AND SEE WHERE
ALL ARE PG ARE TO SMALL TO PLAY SG AND WE GOT EXPOSED AGAINST ORLANDO, THIS YEARS TEAM IS GOOD ENOUGH TO BEAT ORLANDO BUT NOT BOSTON LAST YEARS TEAM WAS GOOD ENOUGH TO BEAT BOSTON. SO THIS IS WHERE T-MAC COMES IN EITHER AT SG OR SF. WHILE LEBRON IS TAKING A BREATHER T-MAC CAN COME IN AND OUR LINE UP WON'T BE SMALL.
PEOPLE REMEMBER IN BUSSINESS THE BIG RISK TAKERS GET A HIGH REWARD YES T-MAC IS INJURY PRONE BUT IF HE IS HEALTHY NO ONE CAN STOP THE CAVS THIS YEAR. AND REMEMBER THAT HE WAS INJURED BECAUSE HE ALWAYS HAD TO CARRY HIS TEAMS. IF YOU LOOKED AT ALL THE PLAYOFF SERIES T-MAC HAS PLAYED IN HE HAS THE BEST STATS. ADD THE SERIES THAT HE PLAYED IN WITH YAO, YAO HAS STRUGGLED.
WE WIN A TITLE LEBRON STAYS FOR SURE, SHAQ WILL PROBABLY RESIGN, MO STAYS, AND WE ADD A COUPLE MORE PIECES NEXT YEAR AND CLEVELAND'S FINALLY GOT A DYNASTY.
T-MAC RIGHT PIECE FOR CHAMPIONSHIP

Woah, do you realize how many international internet laws you're breaking by typing in all caps? Well... one, don't write in all caps.
 
Year after year after year people talk about how players care more about winning than making money...and then those same people use that as an argument for why that player may come to the Cavs. And then, they're heart broken when, yet again, that player takes money over winning.

So please, everyone who is saying that Tracy cares more about winning than getting another contract, are retarded.

Would I like to see him in a Cavs uniform? Sure. Depending on what it takes to get him.

Will he take less money to play here...come on...are you really that dumb?

Who can he go to for more money? How many contenders have MLE left? How many teams for that matter, and what difference does that make this season when he'll be looking for a big contract in the offseason? Am I missing something?
 
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgns

McGrady finished in Houston

Just before Christmas, one front office executive told his video coordinator to cobble together the footage of Tracy McGrady’s(notes) comeback. The executive had watched most of those unmemorable 47 minutes, but wanted to make sure that he hadn’t missed something. The evidence was incomplete, but the conclusion unmistakable: T-Mac is no longer an impact player, just an expiring contract.

“That said, how am I supposed to tell anything off the minutes they were giving him?” the executive said.

So Rockets coach Rick Adelman told basketball’s highest-paid player this season – $23 million – there were no plans to increase his role beyond the eight minutes per night, that they had witnessed nothing that warranted his insertion into the regular rotation. Once T-Mac opened his mouth and wanted his minutes elevated, he did his general manager and coach a favor: They had an excuse to tell him he was deactivated for the weekend games with New Jersey and Cleveland, that this awkward arrangement was unworkable.

When McGrady, his agent Bob Myers and the Rockets management are done talking over the next 48 hours, two sources told Yahoo! Sports they believe the likely resolution will be McGrady leaving the Rockets and returning to Chicago to work with renowned trainer Tim Grover at Attack Athletics gymnasium.

For T-Mac and the Rockets, this is a deteriorating partnership that’s becoming increasingly combustible. His comeback has been a futile, pointless exercise this season. “I don’t understand their plan,” one NBA coach said Sunday. “Why bring him back at all to play eight minutes? They should send him away because it’s obvious Rick doesn’t want him around.”

There are no imminent trades, but rival teams say the Rockets are willing to take back long-term money for the right trade with McGrady. Sources say they’ve shown an interest in Sacramento Kings shooting guard Kevin Martin(notes), but the Kings want to see him play with rookie Tyreke Evans(notes) once Martin returns from a broken wrist in January. The Kings would likely want the Rockets to take Beno Udrith and Andres Nocioni(notes) with Kenny Thomas’(notes) expiring deal, but none of that is happening.

There are no legitimate discussions, just the dead-ends the Rockets are finding for McGrady. In the near future, there just isn’t a trade for McGrady. It won’t be closer to the trade deadline in mid-February, when teams start to give up on the playoffs and are more apt to give up a good player in a cost-cutting move for T-Mac’s expiring deal.

Without McGrady and Yao Ming(notes), the Rockets have been celebrated for staying in the Western Conference playoff chase. General manager Daryl Morey and Adelman are chasing executive and coach of the year awards, improbably winning 18 of 31 games to start the season. They’re winning with defense and rebounding, with balanced ball movement on offense. Yes, it’s delicate, and Adelman sees T-Mac as the bull in his china shop.

“I’ve got to be careful because our team is on kind of a bubble,” Adelman said. “If we start changing the rotation, we start changing the way we play, it changes the whole chemistry of the team.”

....

The possibility of a contract buyout isn’t expected to be addressed now with McGrady’s agent, because there’s just no motivation for Houston to give him one until the trade deadline passes in February. Unless, of course, T-Mac is willing to give back several million dollars to become a free agent now. Here’s the one issue with him working with Grover in Chicago until a trade happens: This is a difficult time of the year for the trainer to simulate true NBA competition. Over the summer, T-Mac could run with Dwyane Wade(notes), Jermaine O’Neal(notes), Gilbert Arenas(notes) – lots of top pros – but that isn’t the case in the dead of winter.

Nevertheless, there are no ideal circumstances in this saga, just everyone trying to make the best of a mess. Everyone just needs to stop fooling themselves, and split once and for all. All along, this was a farce. T-Mac couldn’t prove his worth with eight minutes a game and Adelman knew that. Spare everyone the make-believe, let T-Mac leave and check when a trade, or a buyout, frees him once and for all. Yes, this farce needs to end.
 
http://www.hoopsdaily.com/content/d...-same-treatment-tim-hardaway-once-did-adelman

Deja Vu: T-Mac Receiving Same Treatment as Tim Hardaway Once Did From Adelman


By eric guilleminault
Mon, 12/28/2009 - 2:20am

Not long ago, Tracy McGrady and Yao Ming were the faces of the Houston Rockets franchise, delighting fans with their great talent and skills. However, a series of unfortunate injuries has forced T-Mac to often finish the season as spectators, watching his teammates from the bench.

As a result, fans have lost faith in McGrady, and the Houston Rockets have moved on to other personnel. Trevor Ariza, who was first thought to be a replacement for Ron Artest, has provided Rick Adelman with the ability to no longer play McGrady. The former All-star has been sent home, and is no longer traveling with the team. As a result of this decision, it looks like Rockets fans won't be seeing a lineup of Battier, Ariza, and McGrady on the floor together anytime soon:

"I said all along I want to see where he fits," Adelman said. "Coming back from an injury (Micro Fracture knee surgery) like that, it's obvious he's not Tracy we knew two years ago. He knows that. What I'm trying to figure out is where we can best get him in the rotation where he can have a positive effect on the team."

Adelman justified his decision of not letting McGrady suit up in the next two games by stating: "I just felt if he was unhappy with that situation, I wasn't comfortable to go forward and try to jump-start it again. I want to be sure this is our plan. I don't blame any player for saying, ‘I want more.' That's what he wants. Right now, I'm not sure how to do it. We'll figure it out, I hope."

Adelman probably sincerely believes this. However, his coaching record shows that he has a certain penchant for choosing favorites, sometimes at the expense of other high profile players. For example, Rockets fans will recall how he successfully brought in Ron Artest from his days with the Kings, but how he failed to integrate Bonzi Wells to the Houston franchise. There was also the Jerome Kersey experiment he undertook while coaching the Golden State Warriors. So despite Adelman's reputation as a "player's coach," history shows us that he has had his run-ins with NBA stars. In fact the current Aldeman-McGrady feud has a precedent.

Rewind to the 1995-96 season, when Adelman was head coach of the Golden State Warriors. Though the team had shortcomings, Adelman had inherited All Star point guard Tim Hardaway from the first Don Nelson era. Unfortunately, like McGrady, Hardaway was injured, and then forced to undertake a season ending knee surgery in 1995.

Pre-injury, Tim Hardaway had averaged 19 and 9 assist. Though he was expected to make a full recovery, the Warriors decided to shore up their bench and signed B.J. Armstrong during the off-season. Then Adelman began holding interviews and press conferences on the subject. During the preseason he said he would ease Hardaway back into the lineup (sound familiar?). Later he told reporters he wanted Hardaway to be more of a "scoring punch" coming off the bench. However, it seems that he ultimately believed that Armstrong was a better player than Hardaway. He used these pr tactics to appease the local media and fans base at the time, thereby justifying the unpopular decision of benching not only Hardaway but also Dream Teamer Chris Mullin for one of his former players Jerome Kersey.

In the end, the Warriors traded an "injury prone" Tim Hardaway with Chris Gatling for Bimbo Coles and a 34 year old Kevin Willis to the Miami Heat. Under Coach Pat Riley, the same "injury prone" Tim Hardaway immediately became the starter, was either an All-NBA first or second team member for the following 3 years, and led the Miami Heat to the playoffs for the following 6 seasons. Meanwhile Adelman was relieved of his duties after his second year at Golden State with a record of 66-98

Adelman has portrayed McGrady as a player that can no longer play the game at an All Star level:

"He was a great player. We're trying to see if we can keep a flow where he can keep his touches and not put the whole onus on him right now. That's the dilemma."

"A player of his caliber, he's smart, he's got skills other people don't have. They're in him. All the things he did before that came easy, suddenly they're harder. When you try to incorporate that into your game as a team, that's the thing I'm struggling with. I'm trying to figure it out. As talented as he is and as smart as he is, once he gets going, he's going to find a way. I don't know how long it's going to take."

Admittedly, Tracy McGrady has been more prone to injury than his peers, but so had Tim Hardaway. Adelman made the wrong assessment of one player, so one must now wonder about his assessment of McGrady. Some might support Adelman by arguing that McGrady is too old. The fact is that countless of NBA superstars are older: Kobe Bryant, Vince Carter (McGrady's cousin and two years his senior), and Kenyon Martin (who is not only 2 years older but has had the same micro fracture surgery). All of these players are key contributors on contending teams.

The question that Houston Rockets and McGrady fans should ask is: is Tracy McGrady truly done or is Rick Adelman running him out of Houston as he once pushed Tim Hardaway out of Golden State? The last thing Rocket fans want to see is a Tracy McGrady buyout (like the aforementioned Bonzi Wells), landing T-Mac on the Phoenix Suns or the Miami Heat for the playoffs. Only time will tell if we are witnessing the saga of Tim Hardaway part
 
does anyone know of the relationship between McGrady and any current cavs players? like is he friends with lbj or shaq? if he is bought out and he wants to go to a contender, we would only be able to offer the vet min..

but if im not mistaken.. the celts used their mle on sheed, the lakers on artest, and the magic on barnes and bass, and us on parker and moon. so if thats the case it comes down to his relationship with the players on the contenders. i heard he expressed interest in going to orlando.

but all the other contenders have a great sg. kobe, carter, and allen. we have parker.. i like delonte off the bench due to his mental illness and he keeps the ball moving with the second unit. so basically we could offer McGrady a starting role. it could be interesting.
 
If he doesnt come here i want him to go to Phoenix. I think they will make him 100% healthy (like they did Grant Hill) and show us the old Tmac. That would be something for sore eyes.

Me too then we can get him for garbage and an expiring after he's rejuvinated
:chuckles:
 
does anyone know of the relationship between McGrady and any current cavs players? like is he friends with lbj or shaq? if he is bought out and he wants to go to a contender, we would only be able to offer the vet min..

but if im not mistaken.. the celts used their mle on sheed, the lakers on artest, and the magic on barnes and bass, and us on parker and moon. so if thats the case it comes down to his relationship with the players on the contenders. i heard he expressed interest in going to orlando.

but all the other contenders have a great sg. kobe, carter, and allen. we have parker.. i like delonte off the bench due to his mental illness and he keeps the ball moving with the second unit. so basically we could offer McGrady a starting role. it could be interesting.

I dunno, but he said this last season about the Cavs (although he might have been right, he shouldn't have said this):

“It’s no knock on Cleveland,” says McGrady, “I think Cleveland’s gonna get there… Cleveland to me is really not that good. If you take what the Celtics did last year… You knew, they were either gonna get to the finals, or they were gonna win it. You can’t really say the same thing about the Cavaliers. Although, they had the best record in the league this year, a lot of people like, ‘OK, they havin’ a great year, but we don’t know if they can win the championship.’ They really didn’t do anything on the road with the elite teams in the league, they lost, they had a bad record when they went to face the elite teams in the league. I think they’re a good team, but I don’t think they’re ready to take the next step.”

http://dimemag.com/2009/04/t-mac-cleveland-to-me-is-really-not-that-good/
 
I dunno, but he said this last season about the Cavs (although he might have been right, he shouldn't have said this):

“It’s no knock on Cleveland,” says McGrady, “I think Cleveland’s gonna get there… Cleveland to me is really not that good. If you take what the Celtics did last year… You knew, they were either gonna get to the finals, or they were gonna win it. You can’t really say the same thing about the Cavaliers. Although, they had the best record in the league this year, a lot of people like, ‘OK, they havin’ a great year, but we don’t know if they can win the championship.’ They really didn’t do anything on the road with the elite teams in the league, they lost, they had a bad record when they went to face the elite teams in the league. I think they’re a good team, but I don’t think they’re ready to take the next step.”

http://dimemag.com/2009/04/t-mac-cleveland-to-me-is-really-not-that-good/

That could also be a "ploy" though to sell himself to Cleveland. Although if he is saying he could help he isn't saying it in a very good way.
 
yea aside from the not being good statement.. everything else is very accurate. we simply couldnt match up very well with the elite teams. i dont want to give up much for McGrady but he could be an interesting option.
 
I dunno, but he said this last season about the Cavs (although he might have been right, he shouldn't have said this):

“It’s no knock on Cleveland,” says McGrady, “I think Cleveland’s gonna get there… Cleveland to me is really not that good. If you take what the Celtics did last year… You knew, they were either gonna get to the finals, or they were gonna win it. You can’t really say the same thing about the Cavaliers. Although, they had the best record in the league this year, a lot of people like, ‘OK, they havin’ a great year, but we don’t know if they can win the championship.’ They really didn’t do anything on the road with the elite teams in the league, they lost, they had a bad record when they went to face the elite teams in the league. I think they’re a good team, but I don’t think they’re ready to take the next step.”

http://dimemag.com/2009/04/t-mac-cleveland-to-me-is-really-not-that-good/

This year we have a completely different team...
 
Sources: Rockets to seek McGrady deal
By Marc Stein
ESPN.com
The Houston Rockets have granted Tracy McGrady an indefinite leave from the team and will work with his representatives to find a new home for the seven-time All-Star via trade, according to sources close to the process.

Sources told ESPN.com on Monday that phone discussions between Rockets general manager Daryl Morey, coach Rick Adelman and one of McGrady's agents, Arn Tellem, led to an agreement that both sides would work together in pursuit of a palatable trade before the league's annual trading deadline on Feb. 18.

The Rockets, sources said, are adamant about not buying out the remainder of McGrady's $23 million expiring contract and enabling him to become a free agent during the season. Yet, they also remain unprepared to promise the extended minutes McGrady has been seeking.

Sources said the sides agreed Monday that the best compromise is letting McGrady leave the team to work out on his own in hopes that a deal can be struck and so his teammates and coaches will be spared from the distraction of daily questions about McGrady's status.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4777423&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines
 

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