Tracy McGrady

[jmill]

Larry Hughes+Eddy Curry for him was a rumor. I don't know there contract situations.

Hughes 13.6 expiring, Curry 10.5, 11.2 last a player option can not see the upside for the Rockets here decreases any chance of an F/A next year.

 

[Paddington]

T-Mac may be a radically different player now.
Microfracture surgery kills speed and TMAC used speed and size to create his shot.
He may need a big adjustment to where his skills are now.
He also had microfracture after lots of NBA miles and it hasn't been so effective on players with high miles, especially for guards.
It's obvious that one of the best success stories, Amare Stoudemire, is way off from where he was before surgery.
And I expect it will be even tougher on guards who have difficulty adjusting to the loss of speed.
T-Mac may be a reserve after the surgery...a reserve getting paid $23M, and that is a disaster for any team.

 

[jmill]

Whoops

 

[lars]

I was under the impression that they just really really want to get rid of him, and the sooner the better. They don't want the distraction. If I was NY and with Nates recent complaints, would ship Nate Rob, Mobley, and a bad contract for T Mac. The problem with that is the Rockets running a midget circus.:chuckles: They already have enough players under 6 foot. Brooks and Lowry(by the looks of it).

IBWT has the right idea.

They can just ask him to stay away from the team and he no longer becomes a distraction. Theres no reason to take back bad contracts for him to no longer be a distraction. The only way he goes to NY is if Galinari or multiple no1s are involved. (maybe Hill as well)

 

[Walter White]

IBWT has the right idea.

They can just ask him to stay away from the team and he no longer becomes a distraction. Theres no reason to take back bad contracts for him to no longer be a distraction. The only way he goes to NY is if Galinari or multiple no1s are involved. (maybe Hill as well)

That gives more hope to me because maybe than they will hold out and if they don't get a trade done than they will buy out T Mac.

 

[MYoung23]

Chris Broussard said on NBA Coast to Coast that there no contenders interested in trading for Tracy McGrady. The only teams interested are teams like Golden State and New York. However, the Rockets don't want Eddy Curry or Jeffries and the Warriors don't want a Corey Maggette. The Rockets want an All Star or young talent that could develop into All Star caliber.

 

[kovanovich]

The Rockets would worry me a bit as a potential trade rival with the massive T-Mac expiring, but I am actually not too worried for these reasons:

• T-Mac's expiring is so large, it'd be difficult to piece together enough expirings or players Houston actually wants to make a trade work.
• Houston's strength is at PF and clearly wouldn't be interested in Jamison or Murphy.
• By just letting T-Mac expire, the Rockets will have $39.6m on the books for 2010-11. That includes Yao. If they exercise their option on Chuck Hayes of $2.3m and include the cap hold for their first rounder, they will still have $10m in cap space in summer 2010, though this doesn't include RFA Kyle Lowry. They may be able to sign a better player in free agency than they can get in a trade.
• Daryl Morey is not an idiot.

That said, what if the Knicks offer actual assets like Gallinari and Jordan Hill along with expirings or even Jeffries (which would mean Houston forgets about the 2010 free agent market)? This is sort of the trade Bill Simmons conjured up. Moving the Gallinari/Hill combo off the Knicks' books would probably free up enough space to sign two max free agents.

So a trade with New York is, I think, conceivable. I think unlikely though, because New York would have virtually nothing left on their team, if they traded Gallinari and Hill.

Here's what the Houston Chronicle has to say:

Rockets general manager Daryl Morey agreed Monday to try to trade McGrady during talks with McGrady’s representatives.

Morey declined comment on Monday.

McGrady was granted an indefinite leave of absence while the Rockets seek a trade. A person with knowledge of the Rockets’ talks with teams said no trade is imminent, but that the Rockets had not been very aggressive in seeking a deal, a stance that will likely now change.

McGrady said last week that he hoped to sign with the Rockets again next off-season to remain in Houston, but that if he is traded, "Whoever gets me is going to get a "hungry … player.

"I don’t care if I go to the damn moon," he said. "It doesn’t matter."

McGrady is in the final season of the extension he signed with the Rockets before the 2004-05 season, making his expiring contract worth roughly $23 million, potentially valuable to a team seeking to rid itself of rich, long-term contracts.

The Rockets would likely be willing to take back a longer contract if it also got them a player they wanted, but could not make that sort of trade happen when McGrady salary was covered by insurance. Such a deal could be even tougher with McGrady not playing, though trades motivated by salary-cap implications are more common closer to the Feb. 18 trade deadline.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/bk/bkn/6789894.html

Adrian Wojnarowski at Yahoo! Sports, interestingly, confirms the Rockets would potentially be interested in a non-expiring player or two (in other words, actual players):

There are no imminent trades, but rival teams say the Rockets are willing to take back long-term money for the right trade with McGrady. Sources say they’ve shown an interest in Sacramento Kings shooting guard Kevin Martin, but the Kings want to see him play with rookie Tyreke Evans once Martin returns from a broken wrist in January. The Kings would likely want the Rockets to take Beno Udrith and Andres Nocioni with Kenny Thomas’(notes) expiring deal, but none of that is happening.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-mcgradyrockets122809&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

My guess is that we are in sort of a holding pattern here. Let him go back to Chicago and work out for now..The irony is that Houston is actually disappointed that T-Mac came back sooner than expected from his microfracture surgery. Insurance can't cover his salary, and he has been a distraction to the team.

 

[Triumph36]

Chris Broussard said on NBA Coast to Coast that there no contenders interested in trading for Tracy McGrady. The only teams interested are teams like Golden State and New York. However, the Rockets don't want Eddy Curry or Jeffries and the Warriors don't want a Corey Maggette. The Rockets want an All Star or young talent that could develop into All Star caliber.

lolllllllll

edit: kovanovich - the Knicks consider Gallo to be a God (one of the admins on realgm actually said he'd be as good as if not better than Durant) so I doubt they'd trade him. Their other young players (Hill, Chandler) aren't enough incentive to get rid of those contracts IMO.

 

[Walter White]

Chris Broussard said on NBA Coast to Coast that there no contenders interested in trading for Tracy McGrady. The only teams interested are teams like Golden State and New York. However, the Rockets don't want Eddy Curry or Jeffries and the Warriors don't want a Corey Maggette. The Rockets want an All Star or young talent that could develop into All Star caliber.

Warriors....Anthony Randolph or Monta Ellis? Otherwise nobody is going to trade young talent for T Mac.

 

[kovanovich]

lolllllllll

edit: kovanovich - the Knicks consider Gallo to be a God (one of the admins on realgm actually said he'd be as good as if not better than Durant) so I doubt they'd trade him. Their other young players (Hill, Chandler) aren't enough incentive to get rid of those contracts IMO.

Better than Durant? Hmm...anyway, the idea isn't mine, see the Bill Simmons thread. The thinking is that having Wade and Bosh (or LeBron and Bosh for delusional thinkers) would be better than having Gallinari and Bosh/Wade/Joe Johnson or whatever. But looking at it from Houston's perspective, they aren't going to take on Jeffries and expirings for T-Mac. As Broussard says, they want young talent, and so doubt Gallinari is the name that they would ask the Knicks for.

 

[MYoung23]

Warriors....Anthony Randolph or Monta Ellis? Otherwise nobody is going to trade young talent for T Mac.

Broussard mentioned Randolph but Maggette is the poison pill attached to him.

 

[cavsguy13]

Broussard mentioned Randolph but Maggette is the poison pill attached to him.

that still isnt close to matching contracts though. idk how anyone is going to match 23 million. the knicks could but it looks like houston isnt dumb enough to take the turds the knicks have. i think i buyout could become more likely as time goes by.

 

[Otsego Mar]

that still isnt close to matching contracts though. idk how anyone is going to match 23 million. the knicks could but it looks like houston isnt dumb enough to take the turds the knicks have. i think i buyout could become more likely as time goes by.

Cleveland gets:

A. Randolph
C. Maggette

Houston gets:

Z. Ilgauskas (bought out and returned to Cleveland)
M. Ellis
cash (from Cleveland)

Golden State gets:

T. McGrady
J. Hickson
D. Green
1st round pick (from Cleveland)
cash (from Cleveland)

That's 1 way it could work. Salaries do match.

If Cleveland is that high on Randolph, I think they'd do this. Maggette is no slouch, but this makes our back-court even more crowded.

Houston gets their new SG.........I also would like to think Houston would entertain the idea of keeping Z for the rest of the year.

Golden State gets at least a 1 year rental on McGrady and his expiring, and some young pieces + pick.



This is basically a Monta Ellis for Tracy McGrady trade, in which Cleveland helps both teams get it done (expiring to HOU & talent/pick/cash to GSW)....so we ask for Randolph from Golden State, and have to include JJ (plus filler) as well as take on Maggette's contract to get him. Assuming Houston doesn't want Z, we send cash with him to buy him out.

Houston (assuming they covet Ellis) & Cleveland both probably do this trade....but Golden State looks at it more closely to figure out if the talent coming in + the money saved is worth losing Ellis and Randolph.

 

[sam_slam911]

They're looking hard for a deal here, so it's likely they find one. But at the moment there don't seem to be any teams willing to give value for him. If that doesn't change by the trade deadline a buyout is definitely possible. And Miami or Phoenix would be our competition.

But the last thing you want is him being away from his team. It means there will be a significant adjustment period when he comes back.

 

[Ziggie123]

Cleveland gets:

A. Randolph
C. Maggette

Houston gets:

Z. Ilgauskas (bought out and returned to Cleveland)
M. Ellis
cash (from Cleveland)

Golden State gets:

T. McGrady
J. Hickson
D. Green
1st round pick (from Cleveland)
cash (from Cleveland)

.

So the Cavs would be trading Z, JJ, Danny Green, a # 1 pick and cash for Randolph and Maggette?.....Why not throw in West and Parker as well?