Trade Rumor(s)

[gourimoko]

With Melo's trade kicker the Cavs would wind up paying him $30 mill, which would mean they'd have to trade Love and others just to get back Melo. No chance in hell. They'd need to get other young players or a 1st or two in return for it to make any sense at all.

Melo can waive up to 100% of the trade kicker necessary to make any deal work.

Cavs only need to send out $19-20M in salaries to make any deal for Melo work so long as he's willing to waive the kicker; which, I don't think he would decline since not waiving the kicker is equivalent to not waiving the no-trade clause.

So with that said, a deal centered around Frye/Shump/RJ works... Knicks can then buyout Frye and RJ and send Shump off to a third team for free (i.e., a team under the cap, getting nothing of value back). Saves them an enormous amount of money; very likely in the range of $30M+ ...

 

[RuanuLaw]

I don't understand why the Cavs would send out Love just to bring in Carmello, when they can do that PG. (assuming PG forces the issue)

 

[OhioNation1968]

Couple of items:

1) Cavs will not be able to get Melo by trading Fry/Shrump...etc...etc...

Only Love will get Cavs Melo.

2) Any 3 team trade involving Melo to Cavs...Love to ?....Knicks getting Draft Pick + player...will be finalized after July. This will reduce trade kicker.

 

[OhioNation1968]

I don't understand why the Cavs would send out Love just to bring in Carmello, when they can do that PG. (assuming PG forces the issue)

Pacers won't deal with Cavs.
Lebron wants to ride with Melo.

 

[gourimoko]

Couple of items:

1) Cavs will not be able to get Melo by trading Fry/Shrump...etc...etc...

Only Love will get Cavs Melo.

Why?

2) Any 3 team trade involving Melo to Cavs...Love to ?....Knicks getting Draft Pick + player...will be finalized after July. This will reduce trade kicker.

You've not explained why the Knicks should expect Love in a Melo deal... he's got a no-trade clause and doesn't actually want to leave New York.

 

[RuanuLaw]

Pacers won't deal with Cavs.
Lebron wants to ride with Melo.

You sound pretty confident in your statement...as if you know something.

And I would take PG over Anthony 10 times out of 10. PG scored on us as, what seemed to me, as effortlessly as KD. I want THAT on my team when facing GS.

 

[Rich]

I don't even know what that means. I stated a fact on where Tucker works and how he nailed the Love for Wiggins deal when this message board was saying in 98% unison that Cavs won't have to give up Wiggins.

This is total bullshit.

This message board was not in unison on that.

I knew the Cavs had to give up Wiggins and I sure as shit didn't pretend to have some inside knowledge. It was just obvious.

 

[Rich]

Couple of items:

1) Cavs will not be able to get Melo by trading Fry/Shrump...etc...etc...

Only Love will get Cavs Melo.

2) Any 3 team trade involving Melo to Cavs...Love to ?....Knicks getting Draft Pick + player...will be finalized after July. This will reduce trade kicker.

Lol. In no world do the Cavs give up the better player AND the Knicks get the draft pick. Dumb.

And if LeBron wants it, the Cavs just tell him no. Pretty simple.

 

[JMcCurry08]

I listened to the show @OhioNation1968 talked about on KFAN's website

Nothing about the deal he referenced was mentioned on Tucker's show. They mentioned that Lebron and JR would love to have Melo in Cleveland but that was it

 

[Rich]

It very well may be true that the Cavs can't get Carmelo without Kevin Love, but then they aren't getting Carmelo, because they aren't making that deal. They just had the chance to make that deal in February and told the Knicks to screw off.

 

[Cratylus]

I listened to the show @OhioNation1968 talked about on KFAN's website

Nothing about the deal he referenced was mentioned on Tucker's show. They mentioned that Lebron and JR would love to have Melo in Cleveland but that was it

Yeah, but he has "sauces". Whereas all of us are just ignorant rubes.

 

[bboy]

No way Cavs trade Love for Melo...I still think there's a good chance the Knicks just buy him out to be rid of him...nobody is going to give them anything of value for him

 

[The Wizard of Moz]

But there is also no way in hell the Cavs get Anthony, or any other potential add-on to the core of Irving & Lebron, without giving up Kevin Love.

Hey, fella, don't know if you've been following the Knicks or not, but you seem to be referring to Carmelo as if he was an asset

He's not. Phil is doing everything he can to get him to waive his no trade clause to ship him out for a shrimp cocktail

Melo is absolutely obtainable for scraps. Hello, where were you when it was rumoured that AUSTIN RIVERS was the centerpiece of what the Knicks wanted in return?

But of course we will have to give up Love. Makes total sense

 

[The Wizard of Moz]

We won't be able to get Melo without giving up Love....and Lebron wants Melo.

Stop this. You have no idea what James wants

We have went over, AT LENGTH, all of the things you are talking about now. I suggest you go look at the Melo safari and stop the asinine suggestion that we are giving up Love for Melo. It's not happening

 

[Rich]

Ok, so this trade is gonna happen between Boston and Philly.

So if Boston offers up Marcus Smart, Jae Crowder, next year's Nets pick and this Lakers pick they're gonna get from Philly, that's two very likely lottery picks and two young, decent players on cheap contracts. The Bulls can't so no, right? And they get to keep this years #3 overall pick.

Hell, is that actually more than they have to offer? Point is, I don't see how the Bulls could pass up that deal and it still allows Boston to keep Jaylen Brown and this #3 pick this year. They might be able to do it for less than that.

That team then becomes Thomas, Horford, Butler, Bradley, with Brown still on the team and whoever they take at number 3.

That would put them around 77 million in salary, if my math is correct. They are set to pay somewhere around 70 million in salaries next year without the trade. Swapping out Smart and Crowder for Butler takes that to around 77. There are holds and whatnot, but it wouldn't be that hard for them to keep that room around 30 million to chase Hayward.