Tristan Thompson

[PITCavsFan]

Alright, I'll put it out there.

I believe TT will bounce back and have a more "typical" TT year. I think the injury along with the Cavs overall lack of hustle, intensity, and defensive effort really took away from his strengths. He played better in the playoffs last year when the team played harder. If Lue can instill a better system of grit, grind, intensity, etc., and playing along with hustle guys like Sexton and Cedi, I think TT can get back to somewhat positive value.

Of course the Kardashian curse is real, and he could end up face down in a brothel by the All-Star break, but I hope - and I think there's a chance - the majority of you are wrong on him.

 

[avs2000]

Alright, I'll put it out there.

I believe TT will bounce back and have a more "typical" TT year. I think the injury along with the Cavs overall lack of hustle, intensity, and defensive effort really took away from his strengths. He played better in the playoffs last year when the team played harder. If Lue can instill a better system of grit, grind, intensity, etc., and playing along with hustle guys like Sexton and Cedi, I think TT can get back to somewhat positive value.

Of course the Kardashian curse is real, and he could end up face down in a brothel by the All-Star break, but I hope - and I think there's a chance - the majority of you are wrong on him.

I tend to agree. I think half of last season was toxic with the locker room issues of wade, IT etc.

The injury, which during the playoffs he seems to be behind him.

If he wants another good contract from someone in two years he needs to step up play

And I do not think the Kardashians want to be associated with a NBA reserve. TT has a lot of motivation

still would love to move him. TT and Korver to LA for Hart and Deng ?

 

[Lumthemad]

I am wondering if we can see the sort of growth Anderson Varejao exhibited when LeBron left the first time? I think Double T has a better jumper than we've never seen unless the shot clock is expiring. He's got to be better conditioned and stay healthy. I could easily see him being a 16 and 10 guy under the right circumstances. I could also see Big Z 2.0 beat him out and make TT a 20 minute dude.

 

[rastamon87]

I hope he is serious and does it. If he improves that much we have him for two years and his trade value goes up we win either way

If he just goes back to the gritty and energy guy that he used to be good at... some contending team might bite at the trade deadline... he just doesn't have the natural skills to be a consistent offensive option, but he used to be a good role player/ glue guy...

 

[dark2332]

Alright, I'll put it out there.

I believe TT will bounce back and have a more "typical" TT year. I think the injury along with the Cavs overall lack of hustle, intensity, and defensive effort really took away from his strengths. He played better in the playoffs last year when the team played harder. If Lue can instill a better system of grit, grind, intensity, etc., and playing along with hustle guys like Sexton and Cedi, I think TT can get back to somewhat positive value.

Of course the Kardashian curse is real, and he could end up face down in a brothel by the All-Star break, but I hope - and I think there's a chance - the majority of you are wrong on him.

Well considering that he shouldn’t be getting more than 10 minutes on this team given the need to develop Nance and Zizic, there should be no way he bounces back.

 

[PITCavsFan]

Well considering that he shouldn’t be getting more than 10 minutes on this team given the need to develop Nance and Zizic, there should be no way he bounces back.

So you'd give up on him completely and just pay him $36 million dollars to do nothing? I disagree.

As much as we need to develop Nance/Zizic...for that much money, at a minimum, you have to give him some minutes and see if he can reclaim some trade value. It's foolish not to try. If he still stinks, you give up at that point.

 

[dark2332]

So you'd give up on him completely and just pay him $36 million dollars to do nothing? I disagree.

As much as we need to develop Nance/Zizic...for that much money, at a minimum, you have to give him some minutes and see if he can reclaim some trade value. It's foolish not to try. If he still stinks, you give up at that point.

What's foolish is thinking that Tristan Thompson is a needle-moving basketball player in the NBA at this point. He has no offensive game.

We want him to get back to "pre-LeBron?" Well, pre-Lebron Thompson never shot over 50% as a big man. And that's with basically all of his shots coming within 10 feet of the hoop.

Defensively, he's not a shot blocker. He's also not as nimble as he once was when switching.

You know what he is at this point. I don't care how much you're paying him. You're paying that regardless.

The responsible thing to do this season is to let your young players develop. You know, the ones that might develop into needle-moving NBA players.

So yes, Thompson should be relegated to about 10 minutes per game as a hustle big. He's never been more than that and trying to turn him into more than that is a wasted proposition.

In terms of trade value, he'll have some next season as an $18 million expiring.

 

[JMoneyYourHoney]

just pay him $36 million dollars to do nothing?

How's that any different from what we've been doing?

 

[TitleTown]

So you'd give up on him completely and just pay him $36 million dollars to do nothing? I disagree.

As much as we need to develop Nance/Zizic...for that much money, at a minimum, you have to give him some minutes and see if he can reclaim some trade value. It's foolish not to try. If he still stinks, you give up at that point.

Why? Who cares about the money? No GM in his right mind would trade for TT except as an expiring contract.

It's a COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME trying to "reclaim some trade value" on TT.

He's trash.

 

[avs2000]

Why? Who cares about the money? No GM in his right mind would trade for TT except as an expiring contract.

It's a COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME trying to "reclaim some trade value" on TT.

He's trash.

I gotta disagree, if he gets back to a 10/10 or 12/10 level
I think he would have trade value next year at the deadline to a contender. take back a equal salary and year and get a pick throw in.

If not he will have value the following year as an expiring. We will get something for the trash

 

[BodegaBayCav]

My biggest concern for TT is that Ty plays him too much.The Lue "of last year" showed he was all about loyalty when he stuck with JR and played TT more as he got back into shape.

Can "Developmental" Lue say "no" to his past loyalties and experienced players; in order to say "yes" to young players who need minutes to improve?

I hope so, but with the rest of the NBA playing small ball, I see a real log jam for minutes with our bigs. Love will get his 35 min. and that doesn't leave enough time for TT, Z, Nance and Frye. I have to believe that when we signed Frye, it was an advance move that portends TT or possibly Love (I hope not) will be moved.

 

[Turnipwagon]

I gotta disagree, if he gets back to a 10/10 or 12/10 level
I think he would have trade value next year at the deadline to a contender. take back a equal salary and year and get a pick throw in.

If not he will have value the following year as an expiring. We will get something for the trash

I agree with you and PITCavsFan. We already started to see a better looking TT late in the playoffs this year. If TT was 33 years old, I'd stick the fork in him, but he has some life left. It wasn't long ago that he was almost elite as an offensive rebounder.

 

[PITCavsFan]

I gotta disagree, if he gets back to a 10/10 or 12/10 level
I think he would have trade value next year at the deadline to a contender. take back a equal salary and year and get a pick throw in.

If not he will have value the following year as an expiring. We will get something for the trash

I'm not saying TT should be a priority over developing our young bigs, but throw in an injury to a big on a contender (Valanciunas, Adams, McGee, etc.) and there may be a market. Maybe LeBron wants rebounding help in in LA (la familia).

I'm not saying we could get much, but a young prospect or couple of 2nds is a whole lot better than letting him sit and getting nothing.

 

[TitleTown]

I gotta disagree, if he gets back to a 10/10 or 12/10 level
I think he would have trade value next year at the deadline to a contender. take back a equal salary and year and get a pick throw in.

If not he will have value the following year as an expiring. We will get something for the trash

Which contender would want a mediocre offensive liability eating up their cap space (which most contenders don't have)? If he was on a reasonable contract, then you might have an argument here. But he's not.

Add to that the Kardashian baggage and I think you're crazy to think TT has ANY trade value.

 

[Randolphkeys]

This goes back into how a young player actually develops in the NBA. I'll agree that sitting a young guy in game situations doesn't develop anybody. It's a minor miracle Zizic and Cedi showed as much growth as they did through daily paractices with some veterans. They should have played more regular season minutes.

However, it's also a fallacy to believe throwing a lineup of five inexperienced players on an NBA court together against actual NBA competition develops the five young players. On many tanking teams, young players just got their spirit broken and the play around them was varying degrees of sloppy. Kyrie, Dion, TT... You name the draft pick the Cavs made while LeBron was in Miami. Did any of them really take step forward during all the losing? I'd argue they stayed the exact same player. Look around the league: Are the Magic players really taking huge steps forward every year? They have been tanking for about seven years. Which Charlotte players have developed while they were awful? I struggle to think of any aside from Kemba, who was already offensively an asset. Did all those Sixers picks develop during The Process? Simmons showed up a legit star and Embiid got healthy. Who actually developed?

So you need to play a few young players on the court with two or three legit NBA players in order to get the best out of the young players. Otherwise you are just running the Canton Charge out there every night against the real NBA.