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Bogut would have turned his team around. We can't keep bleeding points with the 2nd unit and Lebron off the floor.
We got very unlucky with the injury but it's obvious we need a rim protector, somehow.
We are free falling right now, a week a go I had infinite confidence in the team and now I'm really not sure what to think, but it's not high.

Ty Lue has to do a better job with the roster we have, no doubt about that. We don't have a perfect roster but it's not an excuse to play like that look that bad with Lebron off the floor.
 
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The problem was beyond that. Tristan was having difficulty stopping Drummond on the glass. So he went with Frye to spread the floor instead. But Frye couldn't properly defend the pick and roll at the top of the key.

What should we have done?

I see your point, but you can't tell me he expected to outscore them when they had the lead? How come they didn't hack Drummond to get him off the floor early on? Are we trying to win games here?

Griff needs to pull him into the office for a chat.
 
I see your point, but you can't tell me he expected to outscore them when they had the lead? How come they didn't hack Drummond to get him off the floor early on? Are we trying to win games here?

Griff needs to pull him into the office for a chat.

Do you enjoy watching this team now? @I'mWithDan said that we fans, should cherish this moment because we are never going to have this kind of team again.
He is right and I agree, but i'm really not enjoying this season, at all. The ceiling of the team is so much higher for this, even in the RS.
We fans, deserve better just because we are not going to have that kind of team for the foreseeble future so watching them struggle like that is twice as frustrating.

I'm kind of a fanatic and I was watching full games of GSW from 2015-2016 season the other day and was closely watching Bogut.
He wasn't very mobile and most of the time they were playing 4 on 5 fast breaks. But what he did for them on the defensive end is nothing short of amazing. GSW scheme was to ice every pick and roll and make the other team shoot mid range jumpers.
No player would have the balls to attack Bogut one on one, their perimeter players only task was to force the opposing player inside, they were barely exerting energy fighting through picks.

Right now, we can't do that with TT because he can't contest nearly well enough at the rim. We need to work twice on the defensive end and most often than not, no matter what we do the other team is able to get a very good look.

It sucks because after watching that, i'm 100% he would have made our defense top3. People were saying he looks "deconditioned" but he looked exactly the same as he did in 2015-2016.

Then I watched him in Dallas and on offense he was just not doing his normal illegal screens(I thinks he gets way more leeway on a contender) and their offense featured no shooters and no cutters at all so he was useless on that side of the ball.

After watching him on both teams, I'm even more bummed that we lost him. Before the injury I was super confident in us beating the Spurs quite easily, but now.. I'm pretty concerned.

We have no one to guard either Aldridge or Pau Gasol.. If Gasol is going to come off the bench, Frye is going to have a tough time guarding him. Patty Mills is going to cause us problems if he is matched against Deron aswell. I have a bad feeling about this season because I have 0 faith in our coach to maximize the potential of this current roster on both sides of the ball.

I think the Cavs were favourites to win the all thing even with Lue had they been fully healthy.
We can still win it surely, but we are going to struggle playing our top 3 extended minutes to reach the finals instead of coming fresh.
 
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He can't run plays without LeBron, this team is not prepared to play without LeBron. This is on coaching stuff.
 
I love Ty Lue because he was the coach of our 1st title team (knowing just how much he meant to that title, we will never know), but I have to admit that I've always felt Blatt was a better coach. He just didn't have the players respect, so he never had a chance. I feel like as soon as Lue stepped in for Blatt that our defense went to shit, even last season. I don't know if the defensive gameplan changed since Blatt left or what the reasoning is, but I am pretty confident in saying that Blatt was at the very least a better defensive coach than Lue. Lue has also done about as bad of a job as possible at managing LeBrons minutes per game this season, which was talked about by him and the team as being crucial before the season even started. I have to admit I am disappointed in him this season overall.
 
Lue has had some weak moments this year. But I'm going from give him the benefit of the doubt that a lot of this is experimental, and when it comes time to cut the rotation down to your best 8-9, and lock in for the postseason, that Lue will have this team ready for the playoffs. He's 1 for 1 in that regard.


I love Ty Lue because he was the coach of our 1st title team (knowing just how much he meant to that title, we will never know), but I have to admit that I've always felt Blatt was a better coach
See above.

He just didn't have the players respect, so he never had a chance.

That's a huge part of being an NBA coach, and you have to earn that respect. Blatt let his ego get the best of him, and was never able to earn the respect. As soon as LBJ informed us of his decision, David Blatt should have made that his #1 priority. But he fought against that notion. He felt his years overseas should speak for themselves, but that's not how it works. The NBA is different.

On top of Blatt having an ego, then he would go do remarkably stupid things...Like almost cost us a playoff game in Chicago (3-1 we would have went down) because he was trying to call a timeout we didn't have. He's lucky the ref swallowed his whistle and didn't call the T.

Lue has never seemed to not understand the NBA rules within the game. Blatt had many different issues with timeouts, substitutions, etc. Again, because he couldn't humble himself enough to spend the off season learning all the rules. If he didn't have Ty handling a lot of that behind the scenes, there would have been multiple disasters. And then he would just go say some dumb shit to the media about it.

Blatt is a smart X's and O's coach, but so is Lue. I do that think Blatt is statistically better at out of bounds plays. Lues numbers are actually good. He can usually get us a good look,and the players will actually run his plays.

I feel like as soon as Lue stepped in for Blatt that our defense went to shit, even last season. I don't know if the defensive gameplan changed since Blatt left or what the reasoning is, but I am pretty confident in saying that Blatt was at the very least a better defensive coach than Lue.

I disagree. Lue was in charge of the defense under Blatt. Blatt also had a roster/played a unit that was far more defensive oriented.

Lue became HC and gave the defense to Longbardi (who I am not a fan of at all). Then in the playoffs, I think Lue stepped back in because Obv. There is a lot more time to game-plan for specific teams, and I think the guys responded well. Also, simplifying the scheme helped immensely.

Lue has also done about as bad of a job as possible at managing LeBrons minutes per game this season, which was talked about by him and the team as being crucial before the season even started. I have to admit I am disappointed in him this season overall.

I definitely don't disagree that resting is important, but he has gotten Bron games off, and will give him more.And I do buy into the games off matter more than minutes theory, I know not everyone does, that's a diff argument for another time.

We do know that:Lue coached the team for half the regular season last year and LBJ had a ton left in the tank in June. Better than he's felt in years he said.

And I may be crazy, but I feel like Bron has looked super athletic recently. Been dunking in traffic a lot. I swear he gets stronger as the season goes alone. He's a beast. I try to give his freakish athleticism and stamina the benefit of the doubt.
 
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I'm not Lue's biggest fan but this hasn't exactly been a great season (on many other levels) that have a direct effect on a coaches ability to win games.

1. We let two key players walk for nothing in free agency and replaced them with no one.
2. Our only meaningful pre-season acquisition was awful.
3. We've played 40 games without one of our best 4 players (JR).
4. Love needs a knee scope after a 5-1 stretch where we started playing great basketball.
5. Our Mozgov replacement broke his leg in 2 minutes.

Lue needs to do a better job in some of the day to day stuff but a lot of this can just be chalked up to things out of his control.
 
Lue needs to do a better job in some of the day to day stuff but a lot of this can just be chalked up to things out of his control.

Ok then I'll raise you this. Take a look at Miami's roster and then take out JR and Love from our roster. Which one is better?

Now, which ones has one a gajillion games since Jan.?
 
Ok then I'll raise you this. Take a look at Miami's roster and then take out JR and Love from our roster. Which one is better?

Now, which ones has one a gajillion games since Jan.?

...and which team is in first in the East?

Look I think Spoelstra is an amazing coach (best NBA coach that LBJ has had and a top 5 coach in the league), but your comparison ignores the success Lue had earlier this season and downplays the difficulty of incorporating three new players while constantly shuffling the roster due to injuries to two starters and rest.
 
I'd really like to see a different starting lineup tonight, of course with JR in their and Shumpert coming off the bench.

But, I'd like to see Derrick Williams get a chance to start at the 4. Think he could help us get off to faster starts.
 
I love Ty Lue because he was the coach of our 1st title team (knowing just how much he meant to that title, we will never know), but I have to admit that I've always felt Blatt was a better coach. He just didn't have the players respect, so he never had a chance. I feel like as soon as Lue stepped in for Blatt that our defense went to shit, even last season. I don't know if the defensive gameplan changed since Blatt left or what the reasoning is, but I am pretty confident in saying that Blatt was at the very least a better defensive coach than Lue. Lue has also done about as bad of a job as possible at managing LeBrons minutes per game this season, which was talked about by him and the team as being crucial before the season even started. I have to admit I am disappointed in him this season overall.
Feel the same way about Blatt... it's too bad that NBA is such a player driven league and he didn't get their respect... seems like he clashed with players and media because he didn't had any previous connections to the NBA...

Hopefully Lue gets the proper adjustments soon and have some practice with the complete roster befire playoffs... He looks much older since he was took the full coaching job, must be a really stressful gig...

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I'd really like to see a different starting lineup tonight, of course with JR in their and Shumpert coming off the bench.

But, I'd like to see Derrick Williams get a chance to start at the 4. Think he could help us get off to faster starts.

I think it may happen at some point. I don't think you could do it until JR got back. Williams has turned him into enough of a threat cutting and has shot the ball well enough he can still pull his man out of the paint.
 
Love will be back in like 2 weeks, I don't see anything changing in the starting line-up until then.
 

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