Welcome Larry Sanders and So Long

[tocov]

My expectations are super low unfortunately.
This dude barely played any bball in the last what? 3-4 years? And always seemed to have an attitude/concentration problem.

Hopefully LeBron can pull him in like he did with JR, and the dude is in good enough shape.
He will be rusty as all fuck in the beginning.

 

[Harley Rider]

Hopefully Sanders can end the skid of being 0 for 9 on back to back games , which I think just maybe the worst in the NBA . Our defense is for shit , adding Larry should help

 

[Walter White]

Big man to big man.

Very classy move by Bogut. I actually didn't know they played together. I thought Sanders on the Bucks was after Bogut's time there.

 

[AZCavs]

If the Cavs didn't have any sort of expectation of Sanders this season, and no one else was interested in him, then they would've signed someone like Jared Sullinger or Josh Smith -- two guys who have played professional ball as recently, like, yesterday -- and held off on Sanders until the offseason instead.

Just because he isn't quite ready doesn't mean they don't expect him to be by the playoffs. Just get him really baked after weight training so he has a massive appetite and load him full of steak and HGH and he'll be good to go by the final week of the regular season.

 

[LeShaq]

The Canton Charge have seven regular-season games left this season.

Their final regular-season game will take place on April 1.

Not sure if there are D-League playoffs.

Having Sanders practice with the Charge before he plays makes sense. He has to get some cardio conditioning back, so he's in good enough shape to play at full speed without getting hurt from exertion.

I don't know exactly what to expect from Sanders right now, but I'm glad we are going to have him for next year as well. Even if he does nothing this year, he could really help next year if things go right.

Ideally, we have both him and Bogut on the roster next season. We can use Tristan against the Warriors, but it would be nice to have a real center to play most of the starter minutes.

 

[Zog]

I understand this to some degree (playing in the D League), but we need a big body to help take the wear and tear off our guys as the playoffs approach. I'm not sure why we wouldn't just tell him that we would pick him up in the off-season, rather than basically making another roster spot useless. The Bogut injury is just awful at this point.

 

[Pioneer10]

The Canton Charge have seven regular-season games left this season.

Their final regular-season game will take place on April 1.

Not sure if there are D-League playoffs.

Having Sanders practice with the Charge before he plays makes sense. He has to get some cardio conditioning back, so he's in good enough shape to play at full speed without getting hurt from exertion.

I don't know exactly what to expect from Sanders right now, but I'm glad we are going to have him for next year as well. Even if he does nothing this year, he could really help next year if things go right.

Ideally, we have both him and Bogut on the roster next season. We can use Tristan against the Warriors, but it would be nice to have a real center to play most of the starter minutes.

Yeah I see D League as training camp: probably two weeks to get his cardio back and to get used to the pace of professional basketball. Then you bring him to the NBA and get him spot minutes getting used to the much faster pace and skill level required for the NBA. He won't get nearly enough minutes to get his cardio up so better to start the process in the D League

 

[Bob_The_Cat]

I understand this to some degree (playing in the D League), but we need a big body to help take the wear and tear off our guys as the playoffs approach. I'm not sure why we wouldn't just tell him that we would pick him up in the off-season, rather than basically making another roster spot useless. The Bogut injury is just awful at this point.

The guy hasn't played competitive basketball in two years and is likely pretty out of shape. Give him a chance to play some minutes and regain some confidence against D leaguers. That way he's more likely to be able to contribute in a couple weeks.

 

[Zog]

The guy hasn't played competitive basketball in two years and is likely pretty out of shape. Give him a chance to play some minutes and regain some confidence against D leaguers. That way he's more likely to be able to contribute in a couple weeks.

If that is the case then I can live with it, I was going by a report I saw that said he probably will play very little or perhaps not at all in the regular season. I'm not interested in him having no experience playing with the team and then playing in the playoffs. I mean we only have 17 games left as it is, 9 games left if he comes up from the DL in 2 weeks.

 

[Redzone]

Lots of naysayers here. I prefer to be optimistic. Heck, some of the same naysayers were optimistic about Bogut, and how did that turn out? The answer is, at worst, we don't know what Larry will bring. Larry's been working out for teams for awhile, so he's likely in some shape. And yes, he'll have some rust. But so did and does JR and soon Love, and I don't read the naysayers predict how rusty they will be, they haven't played in a while, etc.

He's also only 27 and to my knowledge does not have any injuries. Assuming he received treatment for his issues and is in some shape, we're not asking him to play many minutes or score. He's being asked to defend, rebound and block shots. See ball, get ball. These rely more on instincts, athleticism and heart that a player really either has or doesn't. Regardless, most of our well-experienced players who didn't miss any or much time, don't defend at all. So that already makes Larry one of our best defenders, even without playing for years.

The word when JR was traded here was that the Cavs were just taking them off the Knicks hands (a la Osweiler), that he would be waived and that he was a mess. Well, how did that turn out. How did Chris Anderson turn out after he got to Miami?

Great organizations like the Cavs with great leaders (not just LeBron, but guys like RJ, Frye and Champ) can help a player immensely and provide the support he might need. If you remember, Delonte West had MAJOR, MAJOR issues, most of which we did not know at the time, and he was still arguably our second best playoff defender.

If you remember, Lue said Larry was in better shape than he realized, and that was weeks ago. So he had weeks more to further prepare. If there were unmanageable red flags, the Cavs would have gone in a different direction.

The Cavs also have some of the best training equipment in the NBA. for those who have toured the facility.

So I choose to be upbeat, to keep an open mind. If he doesn't work out, no worries. He doesn't cost much and we just waive him.

But he just might surprise some of the naysayers. Feel free to reply back in the coming weeks/months if he rebounds, defends and blocks shots like a "mad dog in a meat market".

Remember, you can't teach hungry. I imagine after being away from the NBA for years, Mr. Sanders is pretty hungry.

 

[Andrew]

DA on twitter said plan was for him to practice with team but mainly be with d league, thoughts?


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[czvo]

My post stands, you didn't address any of my points within it. I think my expectations for him are very level headed and fair, but you seem to believe you have more information to form an opinion than the people running the team do. It's odd to me. I stand by my strong belief that they hope for and plan to use him situationally as needed in the playoffs and have a plan to get him ready to do so. Or they wouldn't have signed him right now, they simply would have waited till the offseason.

And using a 35 year old Dhantay limited basketball skills Jones as an example is dubious at best.. for a lot of reasons, not the least of which the need for Sanders to play and play 'now' dwarfs that of Jones.

I wasn't really looking to debate your post. You are more than entitled to your belief. I would love it if you were right, and the Cavs did get a lot out of him.

I simply quoted your post because I think it's just a tad high when it comes to what we should expect. You are right that the Cavs have more information on him than you or I do. I also think that, if you were to ask the decision makers off the record, they likely wouldn't express anything close to what I've seen posted here. I'm seeing this guy bandied about as the Cavs' defensive savior THIS year. In the playoffs, no less. That's not fair to anyone, Larry included. We aren't talking about a guy that has been injury-plagued for a couple years and has been busting his butt to get back on the floor. We're talking about a guy who hasn't played actual basketball in over two years after walking away on his own accord.

So often we see rookies or young guys make a leap after a full season(s) of playing, and when they are asked why, they almost always say they finally got used to the speed of the game. Well, we are now expecting a guy who hasn't played in over two years to get up to speed after two weeks in the D-League, two weeks of end of the year regular season basketball, and be ready for a title run? I'm sorry, but I'm going to be skeptical.

And I use Dahntay Jones as an example because he played consistently for years to stay somewhat ready for his moment. Larry Sanders has played ZERO basketball. As far as any of us know, he was playing pickup at best. I don't care what the "needs" may be for a guy like Sanders, I simply don't think it's fair to expect him and fill those needs.


I hope to be wrong. I just think people should temper their expectations, as in, don't have any.

 

[Tlyons]

Is weed voodoo a thing?

Bogut just happened to break his leg huh?

 

[Cavatt]

Anyone know how well.Larry sets a screen? We need another guy.

 

[Taiter]

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