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Trade rumors swirl around woebegone Wizards

By Mike Jones

SAN FRANCISCO | With the Washington Wizards mired in their second six-game losing streak of the season as owners of a 7-16 record, a $79.18 million payroll and with roughly an $8 million luxury tax bill on the way, the rumors have begun to fly.

The Wizards have their three All-Stars - Gilbert Arenas, Antawn Jamison and Caron Butler - back together. They have the big-name coach in Flip Saunders. They have plenty of depth thanks to holdover prospects, the offseason trade that brought in guards Randy Foye and Mike Miller, the signing of veteran center Fabricio Oberto and the in-season pickup of backup point guard Earl Boykins.

But something's not working, and league insiders have begun to surmise that Wizards president Ernie Grunfeld could blow up the roster - or at least move a key piece or two.

Butler, the two-time All-Star forward whom the Wizards in the offseason refused to trade to Phoenix with the No. 5 draft pick for Amare Stoudemire, has struggled to find his place in Saunders' system and has been mentioned in several rumors in the past few weeks. A league source said several teams have interest in Jamison, a two-time All-Star forward who is averaging 22.1 points and 8.6 rebounds.

Grunfeld didn't return a call seeking comment, but a source with knowledge of the team's inner workings said the Wizards have told inquirers that they want to see whether things turn around when Miller returns late this month or in early January, giving Washington a healthy roster for the first time this season.

Despite the chatter, the players remain focused on finding a way to achieve their preseason goal of winning roughly 45 games and contending with the Eastern Conference's elite teams. The captains - Jamison, Butler and Arenas - have heard the trade chatter, but they refuse to let it distract them.

"Whenever you're not playing up to expectations and searching for wins, trying to get things done, usually other teams in the league call in, trying to get you to break the thing up, trying to force the issue," Butler said. "A lot of people may think you have a fire sale or something, but we can't control that. Only thing we can control is that right now we've got on Wizards uniforms, and we've got to go out and perform at a high level and show that this group belongs together. I think if we continue to chip away and push at it and show this group belongs together, we'll be fine."

Arenas said making drastic roster changes wouldn't be wise, and he believes the Wizards - who have lost those six straight by a combined 14 points - are close to stopping their slide.

"No, you don't want that," Arenas said. "When you make a trade in-season, then you seem desperate. We have the pieces. We have all the pieces we need. We just need to get them firing."
Jamison agreed.

"I do have confidence in this team," he said. "We're in games. We're competing; we're just not finding ways to pull them out in the end. ... The only thing you can do is keep fighting, keep plugging away and staying positive. ... Eventually it's going to turn around, but you don't want it to be too late and you're going to be in the cellar and you've got to play catch-up the whole second half of the season. It's really a sense of urgency now."

Arenas - after Wednesday's last-second collapse, when he turned the ball over with 3.5 seconds left while attempting to drive for a winning shot - said the team's inability to fare well late in games rests on his shoulders. He insisted he is close to top form after a two-year injury-induced layoff, and part of the reason he remains confident is the support he has received from his teammates.

"We're staying together as a unit. Other teams would've blown up, been having fights," said Arenas, who last month had a squabble with Butler before the pair cleared up a misunderstanding. "We're sticking together, and that's the best thing you can do in this situation. No one's trying to jump off the boat while it's sinking. Eventually I'm going to have to repair it. The team is waiting for me to repair it, and I'm going to have to.

"They're looking for me to be that leader."
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/dec/18/trade-rumors-swirl-around-woebegone-wizards/
 
I guess what comes to mind is what are the three all stars suppose to say when asked about it? :chuckles:

Allow me to fix the Jamison quote:

Jamison agreed.
"I do not have confidence in this team," he said. "We're in games until we choke at the end. We're competing, but that's about it; we're just not finding ways to pull them out in the end. ... The only thing you can do is keep fighting, keep plugging away and staying positive, even though we know we will never compete with the elites. ... Eventually it's going to turn around for the Wizards, but probably not with me,... you don't want it to be too late to make a trade, and if you're going to be in the cellar and you've got to play catch-up the whole second half of the season, you may as well save some money. It's really a sense of urgency now."

There. That's about what he really thinks.
 
How to make the Impossible Possible: Caron Butler

So I just found this article from the Washington Post. Thought it should be posted. And even if Caron Butler is too much of a pipe dream, the article does mention that it looks like Wiz management is thinking about blowing this thing up so maybe someone else may be available as well (jamison, etc.) so let me know your thoughts.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/dec/18/trade-rumors-swirl-around-woebegone-wizards/

Trade rumors swirl around woebegone Wizards

SAN FRANCISCO | With the Washington Wizards mired in their second six-game losing streak of the season as owners of a 7-16 record, a $79.18 million payroll and with roughly an $8 million luxury tax bill on the way, the rumors have begun to fly.

The Wizards have their three All-Stars - Gilbert Arenas, Antawn Jamison and Caron Butler - back together. They have the big-name coach in Flip Saunders. They have plenty of depth thanks to holdover prospects, the offseason trade that brought in guards Randy Foye and Mike Miller, the signing of veteran center Fabricio Oberto and the in-season pickup of backup point guard Earl Boykins.

But something's not working, and league insiders have begun to surmise that Wizards president Ernie Grunfeld could blow up the roster - or at least move a key piece or two.

Butler, the two-time All-Star forward whom the Wizards in the offseason refused to trade to Phoenix with the No. 5 draft pick for Amare Stoudemire, has struggled to find his place in Saunders' system and has been mentioned in several rumors in the past few weeks. A league source said several teams have interest in Jamison, a two-time All-Star forward who is averaging 22.1 points and 8.6 rebounds.

Grunfeld didn't return a call seeking comment, but a source with knowledge of the team's inner workings said the Wizards have told inquirers that they want to see whether things turn around when Miller returns late this month or in early January, giving Washington a healthy roster for the first time this season.

Despite the chatter, the players remain focused on finding a way to achieve their preseason goal of winning roughly 45 games and contending with the Eastern Conference's elite teams. The captains - Jamison, Butler and Arenas - have heard the trade chatter, but they refuse to let it distract them.

"Whenever you're not playing up to expectations and searching for wins, trying to get things done, usually other teams in the league call in, trying to get you to break the thing up, trying to force the issue," Butler said. "A lot of people may think you have a fire sale or something, but we can't control that. Only thing we can control is that right now we've got on Wizards uniforms, and we've got to go out and perform at a high level and show that this group belongs together. I think if we continue to chip away and push at it and show this group belongs together, we'll be fine."

Arenas said making drastic roster changes wouldn't be wise, and he believes the Wizards - who have lost those six straight by a combined 14 points - are close to stopping their slide.

"No, you don't want that," Arenas said. "When you make a trade in-season, then you seem desperate. We have the pieces. We have all the pieces we need. We just need to get them firing."

Jamison agreed.

"I do have confidence in this team," he said. "We're in games. We're competing; we're just not finding ways to pull them out in the end. ... The only thing you can do is keep fighting, keep plugging away and staying positive. ... Eventually it's going to turn around, but you don't want it to be too late and you're going to be in the cellar and you've got to play catch-up the whole second half of the season. It's really a sense of urgency now."

Arenas - after Wednesday's last-second collapse, when he turned the ball over with 3.5 seconds left while attempting to drive for a winning shot - said the team's inability to fare well late in games rests on his shoulders. He insisted he is close to top form after a two-year injury-induced layoff, and part of the reason he remains confident is the support he has received from his teammates.

"We're staying together as a unit. Other teams would've blown up, been having fights," said Arenas, who last month had a squabble with Butler before the pair cleared up a misunderstanding. "We're sticking together, and that's the best thing you can do in this situation. No one's trying to jump off the boat while it's sinking. Eventually I'm going to have to repair it. The team is waiting for me to repair it, and I'm going to have to.

"They're looking for me to be that leader."
 
Re: How to make the Impossible Possible: Caron Butler

How many years of failure and distraction will this team go through before the GM/Ownership finally make a decision to blow it up? Every year it's another excuse or another issue. The team is obviously not going anywhere this year either, but now they want to place the fate of the team on Mike Miller's shoulders? What a joke... Once Miller comes back someone else will go down with an injury. Even if their roster was completely healthy the Wizards will have a damn tough time taking down the true elite teams in the playoffs, that's of course assuming the Wiz will make it that far.

They should just give in and trade Jamison to us already. It's time to abandon ship over there...
 
We'll take Butler off there hands! :chuckles:

Seriously though, what would it take, would they even deal with us because it seems like they hate us. I'd love to get Butler, and to a lesser extent Jamison, but we probably can't make the strongest offer.
 
Butler has been pretty bad this year.

Butler needs to the ball to be successful, as do most players...his shooting has been pretty poor this year, his assist totals have dropped dramatically as well. He is KILLING my fantasy team!

I would rather have Jamison.
 
The cavs could trade Delonte:(, Parker(or moon or neither), JJ, Z and Wally for Jamison, Butler and Mike James.


Also don't but into the cavs and wiz hate each other so this won't happen. The Wizards are going to do whats best for the Wizards. If that means trading to the Cavs then they trade with the cavs.
 
I love me some Hickson, but if you can get Caron Butler, you trade J.J. and don't look back.

Having a trio of LeBron, Butler and Mo would be fanfreakingtastic. I love Butler's game and work ethic and I think he'd thrive next to a player like LBJ.
 
if Butler would join the Cavs, within six months, this board would be full of posts complaining that he is not a true second option and Ferry needs to go out and get someone else. Not saying he wouldn't be effective in Cleveland, though.
 
Butler is shooting 41% from the field and 30% from three.

You dont trade Hickson for that.
 
Butler is shooting 41% from the field and 30% from three.

You dont trade Hickson for that.

Change of scenary may do wonders for a player like Butler. You can only take so much of being on a team with shotty FO work and drama filled locker room.
 

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