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Zydrunas Ilgauskas - Looking into the slump

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Jigo, do you really believe that Darnell Jackson or JJ can play backup center for us?

I agree that Andy would be able to handle many of the centers in the league competently, but not against Orlando, LA, Portland, and Boston - any of which we may see in the playoffs. He simply does not play big enough at this point in his career.

When Shaq is in foul trouble, do you want to trust any of these three with the center duties? Against certain lineups, Andy would work OK, but Darnell and JJ? No way.

And what if Shaq gets hurt? Then we're screwed without Z. Going small will not work against teams with elite bigs over the long run. Even though I admit that Z is not the inside presence that he once was, at least he gives us length and experience. I just don't see giving up on a big man in this era so easily when they are so rare.

If Z's shooting touch comes around, like I believe it will, then I have a feeling many of you will change your minds.

How the hell does Z even qualify as a center anymore? Yeah he's 7'3 and considered a center, however on offense he plays as if he is a poor mans SG and he is nowhere to be found on D. He is just a tall person on the floor to me, I don't even consider him a basketball player :gap:

Honest to God, I can tell you right now that JJ Hickson can play center better then Z. Against Orlando I saw him bodying up Dwight Howard on defense and keeping him out of the paint, Z couldn't do that if it was the last play of his professional career and he was giving all he had left on one final play.
 
Z is really our biggest Mismatch. 2nd unit guys have to guard this enormous dude. You really can't get rid of Z unless we get a stretch 4. He is the only big we have that can shoot, even though he is shooting poorly now. This is the same as Shaq will never work, even though he has just started working. No one has mentioned how Z has gotten more dunks getting passes in the lane or how he has been more aggressive on defense since he doesn't have to worry about foul trouble as much.

Personally, I would rather have Z on Howard and AV blitzing the double team, instead of AV covering Howard 1 on 1 when Shaq has to sit. Howard won't be in foul trouble every game if we play a series with them, and he can play a lot more minutes than Shaq can over 7 games.
 
Shaq is getting the night off tonight with a bum shoulder, so that most likely means Z will be starting. Now, my contention all along has been that Z has had the most difficult job of any player on the team in adjusting to Shaquisition. So, now that he will be starting tonight, I have a pretty decent feeling he's going to be sinking some of those outside shots we are so used to seeing him hit in the past, rendering that idiotic poll that is up right now even more worthless than when it was first posted. It would also go a long way in reaffirming the notions a few of us have had about Z not being comfortable off the bench yet.

I'm pullin for ya Z-man:thumbup:
 
How the hell does Z even qualify as a center anymore? Yeah he's 7'3 and considered a center, however on offense he plays as if he is a poor mans SG and he is nowhere to be found on D. He is just a tall person on the floor to me, I don't even consider him a basketball player :gap:

Honest to God, I can tell you right now that JJ Hickson can play center better then Z. Against Orlando I saw him bodying up Dwight Howard on defense and keeping him out of the paint, Z couldn't do that if it was the last play of his professional career and he was giving all he had left on one final play.

I . . .

(reconsiders)

(shakes head)

(goes about life)
 
Certainly not a great offensive performance, but a step in the right direction. These cliffs he is falling down mustn't be too big. Showed again he is a capable starter when called upon. Lead the team in rebounding, no turnovers again (just 6 in 10 games :eek:) and forced a few stops.

I cannot fathom what would have happened with O'Neal sitting what would happen if we didn't have a capable 5 man stepping in.
 
Now if you see yourself as one of those few, then yes I was talking about you. Pip is certainly included in that bunch as he's been saying for about 5 years he's falling off a cliff but it never happened. He'll continue until finally he is right though.

Chill, I'm just busting your balls... :chuckles:

As for your post, I'll agree to disagree. You have your opinion which differs to mine. Defensively I don't think you are giving him nearly enough credit. You say what he is doing is what any average big could do. What they "can" do, and what they actually do are two very different things. Ilgauskas continues to play into the defensive system of Coach Brown and do it effectively. Yeah he got dominated by Howard last year, but so did every other Cavalier big that series. No excuse though, it's obviously a little too much for him at this stage of his career. In comes Shaq.

So far this year Z is allowing an OPP PER at the center spot of 22 and his +/- defensively is +2.6...

The thing with Shaq is every second game we have foul trouble. We need a center who can play 20-30 minutes any given night. I still definitely prefer Z to Andy in this role generally, but there certainly are matchups where Varejao should be preferred. The beauty of having Hickson stepping up, Varejao able to play minutes at both spots, LeBron effective at the 4 is that we can then sit Z in his slumps. Just 1 week ago that wasn't the case with Hickson, and it could quite easily revert back to that. One Hickson breakout game doesn't make a season (although I hope it is a sign of things to come). So yeah, Z's role can be reduced if his game isn't functioning.

I agree with your concept but my point is that you can't have two centers with the same problems defensively and expect to win a championship... I hope I'm proven wrong but none of the elite teams have two centers with the same problems defensively...

Now back to the trading Z campaign. I see its merits, just not right now. We are thin upfront until Hickson shows consistency, Powe comes back and shows he still got game, and Shaq along with Varejao stay healthy. That's a lot of ifs but possible. I'm personally not willing to risk that until Powe is back in action and we have a large sample size on Hickson. If all is pointing that those 4 guys will be enough along with Lebron playing some 4, then yeah look at Z as a trading point for an area of need.

Let's just remember there maybe a few players on the block right now that wouldn't look too bad as Cavalier's, but I bet you in February there will be those same players, plus more. If we are going to make another move involving a key member, I'd like to have a more expansive selection.

I agree...
 
Led the team in rebounds with 6......(tied)......

If Z wasn't here I still fathom a win, even in the absence of Shaq. Still unimpressed with the big fella.
 
So far this year Z is allowing an OPP PER at the center spot of 22 and his +/- defensively is +2.6...

Z is a key help defender on the team. OPP Per numbers make no sense in general, but they actually have a slight negative corelation with defensive ability when you are looking at help defenders. That's why Varejao had one of the worst OPP PER's on the team last season. Best thing to do is pretend OPP PER was never published, because the numbers are total poop. For example, if you look at OPP PER, you would think Wally Szczerbiak was the best defender on the team last year.

Also, you shouldn't even look at the regular PER yet. Too much matchup specific noise to get any meaning out of the number until about 25 games into the season.

The defense +/- per 48 minutes that 82games.com has is not the best way to go either. They don't factor in strength of opposition, pace and right now, their data is a couple games old, which is big early in the season. Z's defensive net plus-minus was 1.99 points better (*) than than team's defensive average before tonight's game. http://basketballvalue.com/player.php?year=2009-2010&id=258

* That's -1.99 points per 100 possessions, adjusted for level of competition
 
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Was at the game (I have season tickets)...Z still is not very good, even in person. Not sure how 10 pts and 6 boards in 28 minutes is all of a sudden a great game. The fact you guys are excited about it shows how far Z has fallen....40% from the field also. And we gave up 103 pts, so his help defense and showing and all these things he must be doing are not working either. He was actually guarding Boozer quite a bit and that didn't go all that well as Boozer was top scorer in the game.

I HOPE I AM WRONG here, I would LOVE to see Z turn it back on and get quicker and be able to shoot again.

I am not saying we have to trade Z today, but if we don't use that 11 million expiring to bring in more talent, that will be a total waste. I am hoping we can get a big like Troy Murphy...good board man, and a lights out shooter....and I would like to see Z bought out and come back for the championship.........as an assistant coach :)
 
Windy said it in his blog tonight. Z wasn't hitting and may have looked more aged at this point. But at the same time, he didn't look like this more than 2 weeks ago in in preseason, when he was hitting on all cylinders and doing more offensively. So Windy came to the conclusion that he's just in a slump.

And seriously, why is it not okay for Z to be in a slump? Because he's an easy target for venom? He's 7 foot 3? He's paid a lot of attention to?


  • First off, adjusting to a bench role after starting for 10 years seems a little off, don't you think? Allen Iverson is a different case scenario, but he's also not been able to handle it.
  • Z requires to warm up a different way. You saw how he hit his first several shots in the minutes against the Jazz, but then went cold again? It's clearly not easy when your teammates aren't looking for you as much.
  • Opponents are paying a lot of attention to him now that many minutes aren't with LeBron (12:00 to about 6:00 in the second and fourth quarters). If he can adjust, he may look different later on.
  • He may need more time. That's something that can't be helped. He's no longer a main option like he was regularly, so teammates aren't look for him as much compared to Shaq, AP, and friends.

You know me. I've been a Z supporter for a long time. I don't know if it's age yet, but at 33 or 34, you lose a little, not a lot. There's proof with Anthony who looked different last year than the year before. We just need time to see if Z can get it back.

PATIENCE PEOPLE!
 
Ok, so we have established that at some point in this season we need to trade Z. But I do no believe it is for captain Jack? Boobie has been drilling the 3 consistently since the start of the season. He has finally began to grow up and understands his role on this team. We can't just push a guy who is doing nothing wrong to the end of the bench for no reason at all...
 
Ok, so we have established that at some point in this season we need to trade Z. But I do no believe it is for captain Jack? Boobie has been drilling the 3 consistently since the start of the season. He has finally began to grow up and understands his role on this team. We can't just push a guy who is doing nothing wrong to the end of the bench for no reason at all...

Sure you can. Nothin' wrong with getting more talent.

Maybe Z should get the 3ball goin' again?? He shot it at a 38.5% clip last year, and much higher in the 1st half of the season. :chuckles:
 
You don't remember last year then when he was playing at what some said an "All-Star" level by shooting 54% from the field, and putting up 16 points a game through November... He also went on to put 11 points on 48% through December before getting hurt...

Or back in 2007-2008 when he started the season off shooting 49% and 47% from the field and putting up 14 points a game...

Or in 2005-2006 when he shot 47% and 52% from the field and put up 14 & 17 points a game..

Heck even the first five games he shot 54% from the field and put up 9 points...

In 2006-2007 he shot terribly after the first 8 games but then turned it up and finished out the 2006 year with high %'s...

The stats actually suggest quite the opposite of what you suggest... Historically the past 3 years he's started real hot and you could even say 4 years depending on how you look at it..

Nice job. The numbers support your case well, but for some reason it seems every year (with the exception of last year when the whole team got off to a great start) there's always a post on the board (probably started by PIP) that proclaims that Z is too old, too slow, and over the hill - and then in a few weeks Z's rolling.

One problem for Z is that up until last season, his jump shot wasn't especially reliable, and if all he did was take jumpers most years he'd end up with a 38% FG%. So as he gets fewer and fewer inside scoring opportunities, it's not going to be a pretty sight - unless he really gets his jumper going - which is complicated from coming in cold off the bench.

It would help if we could run some plays that got him set up consistently in the same sweet spots.
 
Ok, so we have established that at some point in this season we need to trade Z.

There is no evidence at all that says that is the case. There is a lot of evidence that indicates that the front office feels that having Z is vitally important because Shaq is likely going to miss a lot of games this year.
 
One problem for Z is that up until last season, his jump shot wasn't especially reliable, and if all he did was take jumpers most years he'd end up with a 38% FG%. So as he gets fewer and fewer inside scoring opportunities, it's not going to be a pretty sight - unless he really gets his jumper going - which is complicated from coming in cold off the bench.

Exactly. Jumpshooting is spotty and it's not uncommon for players to have a cold streak for 10 games and then catch fire for the next 10. If Z's jump shooting percentage doesn't rise above 35% by Christmas, then the team has to re-evaluate how to use him. Right now it is way to early to decide he can't shoot anymore.

Rebounds, blocks and steals are usually the stats that fall off a cliff when a player can't play anymore. Those have been pretty steady this year.

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BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl69 width=69>44.1%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=64>10.8</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=64>17.4</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=64>14.1</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl68 width=64>1.2</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl68 width=64>4.4</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" onmouseover=hl(this); onmouseout=uhl(this); height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 62pt; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl67 height=20 width=83>2003-04</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl68 width=64>28</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 52pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl69 width=69>54.1%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 52pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl69 width=69>48.4%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=64>12.1</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=64>16.3</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=64>14.2</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl68 width=64>0.8</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl68 width=64>5.6</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" onmouseover=hl(this); onmouseout=uhl(this); height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 62pt; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl67 height=20 width=83>2004-05</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl68 width=64>29</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 52pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl69 width=69>55.0%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 52pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl69 width=69>46.9%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=64>13.2</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=64>17.2</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=64>15.2</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl68 width=64>1.1</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl68 width=64>4.7</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" onmouseover=hl(this); onmouseout=uhl(this); height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 62pt; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl67 height=20 width=83>2005-06</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl68 width=64>30</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 52pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl69 width=69>57.6%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 52pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl69 width=69>50.6%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=64>12.6</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=64>18.1</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=64>15.3</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl68 width=64>0.9</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl68 width=64>4.6</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" onmouseover=hl(this); onmouseout=uhl(this); height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 62pt; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl67 height=20 width=83>2006-07</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl68 width=64>31</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 52pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl69 width=69>52.7%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 52pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl69 width=69>48.5%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=64>12.9</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=64>20.0</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=64>16.4</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl68 width=64>1.2</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl68 width=64>3.6</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" onmouseover=hl(this); onmouseout=uhl(this); height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 62pt; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl67 height=20 width=83>2007-08</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl68 width=64>32</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 52pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl69 width=69>52.2%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 52pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl69 width=69>47.4%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=64>13.1</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=64>22.2</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=64>17.5</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl68 width=64>0.8</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl68 width=64>4.3</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" onmouseover=hl(this); onmouseout=uhl(this); height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 62pt; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl67 height=20 width=83>2008-09</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl68 width=64>33</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 52pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl69 width=69>52.3%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 52pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl69 width=69>48.3%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=64>11.0</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=64>21.6</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=64>16.5</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl68 width=64>0.9</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl68 width=64>3.8</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" onmouseover=hl(this); onmouseout=uhl(this); height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 62pt; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl67 height=20 width=83>2009-10</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl68 width=64>34</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 52pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl69 width=69>40.8%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 52pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl69 width=69>33.3%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=64>12.0</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=64>18.4</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=64>15.1</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl68 width=64>0.9</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl68 width=64>3.8</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Another thing to look at is his free throws.

His free throws have to dropped off a lot. If his shooting was declining, I'd expect to see his free throws decline too. That isn't happening. It is also worth mentioning that Z is drawing more fouls per shot attempt this year. When your shot isn't falling, take it inside and draw fouls. That's something that smart shooters do when there shot isn't falling.

<TABLE style="WIDTH: 355pt; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse" border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=472><COLGROUP><COL style="WIDTH: 55pt; mso-width-source: userset; mso-width-alt: 2669" width=73><COL style="WIDTH: 48pt" span=2 width=64><COL style="WIDTH: 52pt; mso-width-source: userset; mso-width-alt: 2523" width=69><COL style="WIDTH: 48pt" width=64><COL style="WIDTH: 52pt; mso-width-source: userset; mso-width-alt: 2523" span=2 width=69><TBODY><TR style="HEIGHT: 28.5pt" onmouseover=hl(this); onmouseout=uhl(this); height=38><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffaa; WIDTH: 55pt; HEIGHT: 28.5pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl65 height=38 width=73>Season</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffaa; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl66 width=64>Age</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffaa; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl67 width=64>FGA</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffaa; WIDTH: 52pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl67 width=69>FG%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffaa; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl67 width=64>FTA</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffaa; WIDTH: 52pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl67 width=69>FT%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffaa; WIDTH: 52pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl67 width=69>FTA / FGA</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" onmouseover=hl(this); onmouseout=uhl(this); height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 55pt; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl68 height=20 width=73>1997-98</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl69 width=64>22</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl69 width=64>876</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 52pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=69>51.8%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl69 width=64>302</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 52pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=69>76.2%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 52pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=69>34.5%</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" onmouseover=hl(this); onmouseout=uhl(this); height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 55pt; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl68 height=20 width=73>1998-99</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl69 width=64>23</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl69 width=64>57</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 52pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=69>50.9%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl69 width=64>30</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 52pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=69>60.0%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 52pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=69>52.6%</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" onmouseover=hl(this); onmouseout=uhl(this); height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 55pt; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl68 height=20 width=73>2000-01</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl69 width=64>25</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl69 width=64>234</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 52pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=69>48.7%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl69 width=64>78</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 52pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=69>67.9%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 52pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=69>33.3%</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" onmouseover=hl(this); onmouseout=uhl(this); height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 55pt; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl68 height=20 width=73>2001-02</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl69 width=64>26</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl69 width=64>567</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 52pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=69>42.5%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl69 width=64>276</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 52pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=69>75.4%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 52pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=69>48.7%</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" onmouseover=hl(this); onmouseout=uhl(this); height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 55pt; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl68 height=20 width=73>2002-03</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl69 width=64>27</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl69 width=64>1122</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 52pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=69>44.1%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl69 width=64>512</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 52pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=69>78.1%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 52pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=69>45.6%</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" onmouseover=hl(this); onmouseout=uhl(this); height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 55pt; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl68 height=20 width=73>2003-04</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl69 width=64>28</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl69 width=64>965</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 52pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=69>48.3%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl69 width=64>406</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 52pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=69>74.6%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 52pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=69>42.1%</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" onmouseover=hl(this); onmouseout=uhl(this); height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 55pt; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl68 height=20 width=73>2004-05</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl69 width=64>29</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl69 width=64>979</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 52pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=69>46.8%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl69 width=64>503</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 52pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=69>79.9%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 52pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=69>51.4%</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" onmouseover=hl(this); onmouseout=uhl(this); height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 55pt; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl68 height=20 width=73>2005-06</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl69 width=64>30</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl69 width=64>889</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 52pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=69>50.6%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl69 width=64>380</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 52pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=69>83.4%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 52pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=69>42.7%</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" onmouseover=hl(this); onmouseout=uhl(this); height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 55pt; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl68 height=20 width=73>2006-07</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl69 width=64>31</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl69 width=64>793</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 52pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=69>48.5%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl69 width=64>192</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 52pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=69>80.7%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 52pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=69>24.2%</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" onmouseover=hl(this); onmouseout=uhl(this); height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 55pt; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl68 height=20 width=73>2007-08</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl69 width=64>32</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl69 width=64>879</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 52pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=69>47.4%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl69 width=64>243</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 52pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=69>80.2%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 52pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=69>27.6%</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" onmouseover=hl(this); onmouseout=uhl(this); height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 55pt; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl68 height=20 width=73>2008-09</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl69 width=64>33</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl69 width=64>724</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 52pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=69>47.2%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl69 width=64>174</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 52pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=69>79.9%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 52pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=69>24.0%</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" onmouseover=hl(this); onmouseout=uhl(this); height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 55pt; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl68 height=20 width=73>2009-10</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl69 width=64>34</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl69 width=64>69</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 52pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=69>33.3%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl69 width=64>24</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 52pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=69>79.2%</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: white; WIDTH: 52pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl70 width=69>34.8%</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
 
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