2017-2018 Boston Celtics: No Irving! No Hayward! No Brooklyn Pick!

[Randolphkeys]

I just don't buy this "Wants to be the man" or "Wants more shots" bullshit, if that's the case why would he say he wants to play for the Spurs or Wolves? Pop won't allow selfishness and Wolves would have 3 stars, hardly the place for Kyrie to be the main man.



Agreed, I think Kyrie has crazy value and is underrated around here, dude averages 30 in the freaking finals against the best defense in the NBA! while shooting with crazy efficiency.

Tell me about another PG in the NBA that can average 30 against the Warriors while being 47/42/90, Yes he plays no defense and hes not a passer or a leader, but that crazy scoring is unheard of, if we only had a real coach that actually taught defense and some good defenders and one rim protector on the roster Kyrie and LeBron would've taken down the Durant Warriors by themselves.

I'm Curious, what do you think is the top end offer we could get for Kyrie, like best case scenario but also realistic, do you think we could some how land a AD level player if we involve other teams and send some more pieces? I know its a long shot but crazy trades happened before in the NBA, and I definitely think Kyrie is easily worth a top 10-20 player in return, dude is only 25 and already an offensive superstar.

For part one, we agree Kyrie is already getting as many shots and opportunities in the offense as he would want. This is a business push, most likely coming from the people around him. The Cavs are LeBron's team in the eyes of the media. I'm sure Kyrie wants to be in more commercials, wants to be on All NBA teams with eye popping numbers. He really did get jobbed getting left off the 2nd and 3rd team All NBA teams this year. In other words, he is caught up in all the superficial stuff outside of the game.

I don't do made up trade scenarios anymore. Lots of fans like making them up as much as they like watching the actual games, I'm just not into it anymore. I do look to how other unhappy players have been dealt with: Love was unhappy with the TWolves for almost two seasons, and Flip Saunders refused to deal him unless the offer was worth what he felt was fair. Boogie Cousins wanted off the Kings for what, four years? Five? They didn't even have a strong front office and they held him to his contract until the offer made it worth their time. All I'm saying is the other teams will likely lead with a low-ball offer. The best wove is to wait out the low-ball offers even if that means Kyrie starts the year a Cavalier.

 

[cavsfever]

View: https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/889119980024872961


SMH if all this is true...shows some immaturity

Was coming here to post this. Amazing article, includes the news that we almost got Paul George -- apparently deal was informally agreed on and then Indy backed out.

 

[Bulldog2Buckeye]

Has any reliable journalist posted a rumored trade? Only one I've seen is Irving + Love for Melo and Bledsoe, which is atrocious. I'm surprised there hasn't been more speculation or news from people like Woj

 

[malus]

If we trade Kyrie in a deal and the best player we get back is Wilson Chandler I'm not watching another Cavs game


This is an amazingly underwhelming trade and if we did some shit like this the whole league.....no ALL of SPORTS would destroy us for years.

If we did this trade LeBron wouldn't even wait a year to get out.....he'd demand out immediately



Idk why ppl want us to hand Kyrie to a team for nothing so bad. The type of player you get back in a Kyrie deal needs to be an all star. Not some role player who averages 15 ppg

Harris and Murray are the headliners of that deal not Chandler.

I don't know if the Cavs are ready to consider a deal based around young players like them though.

 

[sleepmaster]

Should have recorded that conference call:

On the afternoon of June 30, the sides thought they had a deal. On a conference call between the teams, everyone tentatively agreed. George to the Cavs, Love to the Nuggets, Harris and other pieces to the Pacers, sources said.

Plans were put in place for a call to be arranged between George and Gilbert, an important step before the trade would become final, sources said. The front office began making other plans to complement George as free agency was about to begin.

But then Pritchard, who had been on the conference call when the deal was tentatively agreed to, sent the message that his team was backing out, sources said. There was no deal.

 

[wremy]

Also FWIW which I know isn't much the Bullshit Whisperer wrote an article piggy backing off of the Pluto article I posted and claims NO has contacted the Cavs with a trade offer as well.

Has any reliable journalist posted a rumored trade? Only one I've seen is Irving + Love for Melo and Bledsoe, which is atrocious. I'm surprised there hasn't been more speculation or news from people like Woj

That was absolute bullshit by a NY hack who even other analyst discredited... NY has reportedly offered Melo and multiple picks... Pho offered Bledsoe and multiple picks ... Minny, Sac, and Den repoertedly to make offers and according to the bullshit whisperer NO has made an offer to Cle but he gave no details... Many think Pho and NY 3-way is possible... If not Pho by themselves IMO is the leader .. Like NMcav says even a Bledsoe Jackson and top 3-5 protected lottery pick is a very good haul...it gives us a lot of options with both Jackson and the pick

 

[NMCav]

I honestly don't want this trade but from the rumors being reported I think its 2 seperate trades

KLove for Bledsoe + Josh Jackson (Was discussed before draft suns still do it they want a star to help the young guys)

Kyrie for Melo Frank Ntlikina Hernangomez and a pick

Gives the team depth and pieces to groom for if LBJ leaves but I don't wanna lose KLove and Kyrie in the same off-season.

This is just speculation on my part but some rumors have said Cavs want Ntlikina well we would be deeper a team of Bledsoe Smith LBJ Melo Hernangomez or TT wins the east. This is the only scenario that makes sense with us adding Melo cause KLove would have to be moved they cant play together...

 

[MrHoops]

If you can't get KP then there is propose for dealing with the Knicks. And people still haven't seen Ntlikina play to this day. He couldn't even be healthy enough to play summer league.

 

[NMCav]

Nevermind

 

[sleepmaster]

Ideally Cavs trading Kyrie inflates Love's stats and he's flipped for Paul George before any trade for Melo.

 

[bboy]

Wolves - Jimmy Butler
Knicks - From New Jersey might want to be close to home
Heat - His Agent is tight with Pat Riley and the Heats Owner
Spurs - Probs likes Popovich and believe it or not he would be the focal point on offense in SA which would allow Kawhi to focus more on his already great defensive game well still putting up 20 points a night

none of those teams have anything I want and Kyrie has no leverage to demand anything

 

[RichieRichPaul]

Protected 1st from NOP & MIN to CLE


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[FrontPageNews]

Harris and Murray are the headliners of that deal not Chandler.

I don't know if the Cavs are ready to consider a deal based around young players like them though.

I think this could be Harris's breakout year. He could defiantly help this year.

 

[wremy]

Ideally Cavs trading Kyrie inflates Love's stats and he's flipped for Paul George before any trade for Melo.

Lmfao...let it go man... OKC isn't trading PG in the middle of the season when they are a fourth seed...now if Westbrook were to get injured then maybe...but are the Cavs trading Love who would be putting up big numbers in this scenario for possibly a half year of PG13?

 

[wremy]

none of those teams have anything I want and Kyrie has no leverage to demand anything

Well so take Porzingis in a second but I definitely agree about Kyrie having no leverage