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inliner311 said:
I also think JTs inability to read defenses and his accuracy with his mid-range to long ball limited what the coaches could do with the WRs. The coaching staff has to take a big lump of that blame for the lack of development in JT.

I'm excited to see what they can do with Haskins. I also hope they will be more dynamic with the running and screen game. Maybe they will install some run/pass option like the Eagles did with Foles since Haskins won't be much of a running threat.
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I don't think JT was bad at reading defenses. I think he had average, at best, arm strength and no touch on his deep ball. But that certainly does affect what you with your WRs.
 
col63onel said:
I don't think JT was bad at reading defenses. I think he had average, at best, arm strength and no touch on his deep ball. But that certainly does affect what you with your WRs.
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I agree with this for the most part.

Barrett had a few bad games (Iowa where he was awful at reading coverage, and the Wisconsin pick 6 in Big 10 championship that make you scratch your head) but over the entirety of his career, he read defenses pretty well.

He just didn't deliver the ball well, IMO. Lack of arm strength combined with downfield accuracy issues. He was solid on short to intermediate throws, largely because his ball naturally had a lot of touch on it. Once you got outside the hash-marks or into downfield throws, it was dicey.

I can't wait to see how Haskins looks on Saturday.
 
col63onel said:
I don't think JT was bad at reading defenses. I think he had average, at best, arm strength and no touch on his deep ball. But that certainly does affect what you with your WRs.
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I think you are right that he was average or maybe even above average in college football at reading defenses. I think I meant more that his inability to get to the next level reading defenses held the Buckeyes offense from evolving forward. I think when it was one or two reads he was fine but when they wanted to spread it out and have him make 4 or 5 reads that's where he would fall apart. The coaching staff would always say it something they were working on with him.

I remember an opposing teams corner said last season that JT was easy to read because he would go thru his progressions in one direction. Basically he would only go thru his read from left to right or right to left. That corner said by time he would get to that last read you could just jump the route and go for the interception.

I think the two years of Tim Beck and Warner hurt JTs development. I don't think either of them were inventive enough to build up the plays and play calling so that JTs development could have been a slow evolution. I think Herman would have been able to build JT up over those years to reach his full potential without seeing the offense suffer at all.
 
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So a BoT member resigned because he thought Urban's punishment was too soft. According to him, he was the "lone voice" of this in the room.

Fact he was the lone voice is good news.
 
Ohio said:
So a BoT member resigned because he thought Urban's punishment was too soft. According to him, he was the "lone voice" of this in the room.

Fact he was the lone voice is good news.
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Why is it when a board member is against the decision, it's a headline, but when a board member thought the suspension was fair, no one picked it up?
 
col63onel said:
Why is it when a board member is against the decision, it's a headline, but when a board member thought the suspension was fair, no one picked it up?
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Anti OSU/Urban Meyer articles generate clicks. This is a short attention span click bait era of journalism. Sad but true.

This story just refuses to die.
 
col63onel said:
Why is it when a board member is against the decision, it's a headline, but when a board member thought the suspension was fair, no one picked it up?
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Because this entire "scandal" was only ever about one thing - tearing down Urban & OSU.
 
maybe we will get some fair reporting and analysis for a change
 
col63onel said:
From the national media...doubtful
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Apparently not just the national media

From the Plain Dealer

Elizabeth Sullivan, director of opinion, cleveland.com:

A new consciousness about such matters is sorely needed. Zach Smith harmed the integrity of OSU football with his reported misconduct off the field -- and not just during recruiting trips. Shame on all those who knew about the charges he beat his wife and were silent.
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a.) There were no charges
b.) Who was silent? Police were notified. Was someone supposed to comment about an ongoing investigation? Were they supposed to say after the fact "there was an investigation but there were no charges"?
 
This is the fucking twilight zone. People are just ignoring outright, indisputable facts and it’s becoming unbearable that persons want to push narrative rather than subscribe to truth.

I understand we have a brand in which we are emotionally invested, but this is a tendency that is translatable to other facets/contemporary issues of society and it’s concerning to me.
 
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