2018 Cleveland Browns Off Season Thread

[Soda]

I'm honestly shocked that there is a, "Give Josh a break!" crowd, if I'm being frank.

Funny that you think criticism for borderline defamation is "ah just give him a break!"

More like, don't throw shade at a guy until you know.

 

[Chris]

Funny that you think criticism for borderline defamation is "ah just give him a break!"

More like, don't throw shade at a guy until you know.

Explain this post to me.

Are you saying you think I'm saying it's okay to spread false rumors about people? Pretty sure I addressed that in one of my posts. Come on.

 

[Soda]

Explain this post to me.

Are you saying you think I'm saying it's okay to spread false rumors about people? Pretty sure I addressed that in one of my posts. Come on.

I'm telling you this is undue, you're saying "ah this is Josh's fault".

I'll embellish if you're going to put words in my mouth about "a break". If you think it's a break I'm suggesting, you're mistaken.

 

[Chris]

I'm telling you this is undue, you're saying "ah this is Josh's fault".

I'll embellish if you're going to put words in my mouth about "a break". If you think it's a break I'm suggesting, you're mistaken.

I think you just took my original post as an attack on Gordon. It wasn't. It was more stating a fact of having him on your team. Then you kept going and I started taking it like you were an apologist for him. Dude, you're sitting here telling me I'm ridiculous for saying Gordon brings a distraction with him...how do you expect me to take that? A dude who has been busted for drugs numerous times, let this team and the fans down multiple times. Made nothing but excuses until recently, infamously threw out all his Browns gear and put it on social media.

 

[Green Demon]

I think you just took my original post as an attack on Gordon. It wasn't. It was more stating a fact of having him on your team. Then you kept going and I started taking it like you were an apologist for him. Dude, you're sitting here telling me I'm ridiculous for saying Gordon brings a distraction with him...how do you expect me to take that? A dude who has been busted for drugs numerous times, let this team and the fans down multiple times. Made nothing but excuses until recently, infamously threw out all his Browns gear and put it on social media.

Not really sure why he's giving you the flack that he is, I mean Josh hasn't played a full season of games since 2012!! due to suspensions or not being reinstated by the beginning of the league year. This is 100% on Josh that the rumors that are floating out their are believable because pretty much every time they been floated in the past they've been correct.

 

[Soda]

Not really sure why he's giving you the flack that he is, I mean Josh hasn't played a full season of games since 2012!! due to suspensions or not being reinstated by the beginning of the league year. This is 100% on Josh that the rumors that are floating out their are believable because pretty much every time they been floated in the past they've been correct.

Sure pal. Like him boarding a plane with pounds of weed, right?

 

[Chris]

I think his point, which I am saying too, is when you have broken confidence 4-5 times, rumors will come and people will doubt. Period. He is going to have to prove to people he is here to stay before they start believing. Well, some people.

Having Josh means these questions and rumors will exist and surround the team. For now, anyways. That was my original point that you thought was so outlandish.

 

[Soda]

I think his point, which I am saying too, is when you have broken confidence 4-5 times, rumors will come and people will doubt. Period. He is going to have to prove to people he is here to stay before they start believing. Well, some people.

Having Josh means these questions and rumors will exist and surround the team. For now, anyways. That was my original point that you thought was so outlandish.

I agree 100% about the bolded. It's past that where we diverge.

I couldn't care less about how his availability makes you, a fan, feel & I think it's out-of-touch to lament about it being a personal peeve.

 

[Chris]

I agree 100% about the bolded. It's past that where we diverge.

I couldn't care less about how his availability makes you, a fan, feel & I think it's out-of-touch to lament about it being a personal peeve.

Um, okay? We're on a forum for fans, are we not? None of us are part of the team, so I can only tell you how it makes me feel...as a fan.... If you don't care about the fact that I worry about his availability, how about just keep quiet? Why do you feel the need to tell me you don't care? The whole, "If you have nothing nice to say..." kind of applies here.

I sure hope you never once bitched about having to think about LeBron James' free agency every year, or be constantly reminded of it by the media. Because that would make you look very hypocritical here.

Just a truly bizarre take. Love ya, buddy, but you're really throwing me for a loop on this one. It's like you're having a bad day and wanted somebody to take it out on. You could have this exact take with hundreds of other people on here who have expressed worry about a certain aspect of one of our teams, but decided to fight this battle right here, right now. I dunno. Whatever, I guess.

 

[Soda]

Um, okay? We're on a forum for fans, are we not? None of us are part of the team, so I can only tell you how it makes me feel...as a fan.... If you don't care about the fact that I worry about his availability, how about just keep quiet? Why do you feel the need to tell me you don't care? The whole, "If you have nothing nice to say..." kind of applies here.

That's a two-way street. Is it okay for you because it's about someone who deserves it, or something?

I sure hope you never once bitched about having to think about LeBron James' free agency every year, or be constantly reminded of it by the media. Because that would make you look very hypocritical here.

I do invite you to seek something like that out. You'll find that my stance has been he's worth the "trouble" 100 times out of 100. Without him, we don't get to worry about the things he makes you worry about... Like winning.

Probably best for us both to digress on this one.

 

[Chris]

That's a two-way street. Is it okay for you because it's about someone who deserves it, or something?



I do invite you to seek something like that out. You'll find that my stance has been he's worth the "trouble" 100 times out of 100. Without him, we don't get to worry about the things he makes you worry about... Like winning.

Probably best for us both to digress on this one.

What's a two way street? What did I say that was mean-spirited? Proof that you just misinterpreted almost every word I said in here. Either that, or I did a poor job articulating it, but honestly I did my best.

LeBron was absolutely worth the trouble. Your words. I hope Josh Gordon is, too. See? What was so wrong with that statement?

Good grief. Yeah, let's digress.

 

[Soda]

What's a two way street? What did I say that was mean-spirited? Proof that you just misinterpreted almost every word I said in here. Either that, or I did a poor job articulating it, but honestly I did my best.

LeBron was absolutely worth the trouble. Your words. I hope Josh Gordon is, too. See? What was so wrong with that statement?

Got me there. I don't see it as "trouble", even though that's how I responded to it. It's trouble like virgin me wanting to have sex & not having a condom at the moment is trouble.

As far as a "two-way street", your original comment read as an "or else" type statement... Like, if it's not worth the trouble to you, then what?

I think that's the misunderstanding.

 

[Chris]

Got me there. I don't see it as "trouble", even though that's how I responded to it. It's trouble like virgin me wanting to have sex & not having a condom at the moment is trouble.

As far as a "two-way street", your original comment read as an "or else" type statement... Like, if it's not worth the trouble to you, then what?

I think that's the misunderstanding.

Ah, gotcha. No, it was merely a sad, depressed Browns fan ( ) hoping the guy balls out like I know he can, and stays clean both for us, for his team, and for himself.

I'm not the GM so I can't cut him or affect his career in any way. LeBron really was the best parallel I could find for the situation. He brought a lot of headache to us (both the fans and the organization), but damn it if it wasn't worth it. I'd do it all over again in a heartbeat. I'd ride that shit train straight to hell, 10 times out of 10. Hopefully when Gordon's Browns career is over we can all look back fondly and be like, "Damn, he had a rough start, but once he got clean he was a joy to watch and helped turn this team around."

 

[Vee-Rex]

If any of you have watched The Office (one of the funniest TV shows ever), then you'll love this:

 

[bigfoot5415]

I'd like to know why Josh hasn't been seen working out with all his new guys this year. Every video I've seen includes all the playmakers (or most) minus Josh.