#52 DeShone Kizer

[Matches]

Name how many receivers on this team that would make another NFL roster that has played (aka not josh Gordon).

Britt and Coleman would have been locks to make other rosters. Louis would probably be borderline.

Devalve and Njoku if you count tight ends.

It doesn't make sense to say "great qb play elevates the play of wide receivers" and then cite Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady. Of course they do. They turn mediocre guys into reliable threats, and good guys into fantasy studs. It doesn't just stop there, because when you pair them with truly great receivers, (e.g. Brady with Moss) you get something truly transcendent.

The point is how do you enable guys who are NOT all time greats like Brady and Rodgers to succeed? The idea that Kizer was going to elevate the games of Ricardo Louis and Rashard Higgins was a fantasy. Wentz has come into his own in year 2 and is now doing that sort of thing. But Kizer in year 1? He needed help in one form or another (reliable targets or a killer run game) and didn't get it. And he's looked awful.

 

[GreasySpread36]

Guys, the point isn't to compare Kizer and Tom Brady or to say Kizer should be as good as Tom Brady or whatever. The point is that ideally you can find a QB who can elevate the play of the ten guys around him rather than have to move heaven and earth to find a bunch guys who can elevate the play of the QB. The former would seem to be a more simple, efficient strategy.

Maybe the disconnect is that I've pretty much given up on Kizer. I just don't think he has it and I don't want to see the organization waste time and resources trying to prop up a QB who doesn't have it. I'd rather they just find a better QB.

 

[buzzdog]

Guys, the point isn't to compare Kizer and Tom Brady or to say Kizer should be as good as Tom Brady or whatever. The point is that ideally you can find a QB who can elevate the play of the ten guys around him rather than have to move heaven and earth to find a bunch guys who can elevate the play of the QB. The former would seem to be a more simple, efficient strategy.

Maybe the disconnect is that I've pretty much given up on Kizer. I just don't think he has it and I don't want to see the organization waste time and resources trying to prop up a QB who doesn't have it. I'd rather they just find a better QB.

So.. we should spend time and resources propping up who? Hogan? Kessler? Somebody off another team's practice squad?

We have from now to the end of the season with the youngest QB in the league, who has all the physical tools and who needs to figure out the mental aspect of the game. But you think we shouldn't bother, because why? Watching Kizer upsets you or something?

GMAFB.

 

[Soda]

This city is too damn small.

https://bustedcoverage.com/2017/11/07/deshone-kizer-allegedly-spotted-buying-a-bunch-of-condoms/

 

[GreasySpread36]

So.. we should spend time and resources propping up who? Hogan? Kessler? Somebody off another team's practice squad?

We have from now to the end of the season with the youngest QB in the league, who has all the physical tools and who needs to figure out the mental aspect of the game. But you think we shouldn't bother, because why? Watching Kizer upsets you or something?

GMAFB.

If I don't think Kizer is the answer, if I don't think he's the future and if I don't think he's going to be the starting QB or possibly even on this roster in 2018, then why would I care what they do with him? They can start him, sit him, trade him, cut him, strap a rocket to him and shoot him into outer space- I really don't give a shit. Whatever.

 

[chrisrich91]

This city is too damn small.

https://bustedcoverage.com/2017/11/07/deshone-kizer-allegedly-spotted-buying-a-bunch-of-condoms/

There's entirely too many snitches in the city apparently.

Let the boy have a drink. Let the boy fuck.

@DeShoneKizer, congrats on the sex. Buy your condoms on Amazon.

 

[Soda]

There's entirely too many snitches in the city apparently.

Let the boy have a drink. Let the boy fuck.

@DeShoneKizer, congrats on the sex. Buy your condoms on Amazon.

If you ask Josh Gordon, Kizer was being harassed here.

 

[macbdog]

If you ask Josh Gordon, Kizer was being harassed here.

Well, he is. Why are people taking pictures of this? It has nothing to do with his awful performance on the football field, where he is apparently awful despite having no distractions and a fantastic work ethic.

 

[Soda]

Well, he is. Why are people taking pictures of this? It has nothing to do with his awful performance on the football field, where he is apparently awful despite having no distractions and a fantastic work ethic.

In what way is he being pressured or intimidated here? What is hostile? Can he no longer live amongst humans?

 

[Lee]

In what way is he being pressured or intimidated here? What is hostile? Can he no longer live amongst humans?

This isnt a Cleveland sports fan thing, just a sports fan in general, but yes this is harassing a bit. I wouldnt want my picture taken in some drug store while i am making a purchase, much less a private one.

Not sure how you dont think this is harassment at some level.

 

[Soda]

This isnt a Cleveland sports fan thing, just a sports fan in general, but yes this is harassing a bit. I wouldnt want my picture taken in some drug store while i am making a purchase, much less a private one.

Not sure how you dont think this is harassment at some level.

Well, if you'd look up harassment, as I did, you'd see this falls well short of it. Would I enjoy this? Of course not. It's a monumental stretch to call this harassment. How'd this claim hold-up legally?

 

[Jack Brickman]

Well, if you'd look up harassment, as I did, you'd see this falls well short of it. Would I enjoy this? Of course not. It's a monumental stretch to call this harassment. How'd this claim hold-up legally?

I don't think he means there's any legal grounds for harassment, just that it's harassing the athlete to take pictures of them when they're not looking and then putting them on blast on the internet.

 

[buzzdog]

In what way is he being pressured or intimidated here? What is hostile? Can he no longer live amongst humans?

No, he should love having that shit posted and viewed by nosy, low life loser fucking excuses for fans. Wouldn't you?

No reason to want to tell those people to go fuck themselves, or just bitch slap them on the spot, is there? Just bend over and take it because you play in Cleveland. It comes with the territory.

Got it. You are an enabler.

 

[Lyst]

Hahaha. There is no privacy anymore these days. Everyone has a cell and are snapping pics, especially when you are a celebrity making mllions of dollars. Don't want pictures of you taken? Then quit your public eye job, or just stay at home.

 

[BMAN]

There's entirely too many snitches in the city apparently.

Let the boy have a drink. Let the boy fuck.

@DeShoneKizer, congrats on the sex. Buy your condoms on Amazon.

Let the boy watch