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A Closer Look at Jabari Parker

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imo, a kyrie-parker pick n roll is a better offensive option than a kyrie-wiggins fastbreak. the defensive side is another story.

i feel that wiggins is a better player at the 2 early in his career, while parker can play 3/4 depending on the match up.

cavs cannot go wrong with either of the two, unless they trade the pick.
 
And I'm not trying to get you guys riled up over Dan Gilbert, but there is an outsider perspective that he's an impatient, emotional and meddling owner. Again, I've watched that type almost sink our franchise for the past 25-years. They can give great soundbites and you try to rally around them as fans. But over time, the people working for them (and frequently fired by them) tend to talk amongst their brethren. The rep develops that the situation is dysfunctional and top tier coaching and front office candidates start to avoid the place like the plague. Right now Gilbert's primary rep with other fans/media around the league is a guy who couldn't put together a functioning supporting cast for LeBron, went off the deep end when LeBron left, and has now spent the last four years burning high lotto picks. If he takes Jabari or Wiggins and gets LeBron to return, he'd clearly shed that rap quickly. But right now that's what he's carrying with him.

Thanks for posting here. Always good to see fans of other teams dropping by for a visit.

I think your comments show why we need to be leery of reputations. Those reputations are so often based on half-truths or incorrect information.

For years, there's been this narrative that "Dan Gilbert didn't get LeBron any help, that's why LeBron left." Truth is, that die was cast before Gilbert ever bought the team. There were two big events in the summer of 2004 that essentially doomed the LeBron-centered rebuild:

1. They drafted Luke Jackson with the #10 pick in the draft;
2. They stupidly let Carlos Boozer get away as a free agent.

IOW, they pissed away their two best attempts at getting young talent to grow with LeBron. (Not to mention that they also had traded away two future #1 picks, which ended up being transferred in 2005 and 2007.) And again, that all happened before Gilbert was owner.

Those moves put Gilbert (and his GM, Danny Ferry) behind the eight ball from the start. They tried valiantly to get talent around Bron, but it was kind of impossible by then, as any other assets they may have been able to use in a trade had already been squandered by the previous regime.

I'm also not sure how he/the Cavs got a reputation as a burner of lottery picks. With their four top picks in the previous three drafts, they took Irving, Thompson, Waiters, and Bennett. Irving is one of the two best players to come out of the draft in the past three years; I think they hit on that one. Waiters is emerging as one of the better players from 2012. 2013 was a sewer pipe of a draft; it's not like they left LeBron and Durant on the board to reach for Bennett; the whole draft sucked.

There are reasons to criticize Gilbert, sure. But if the perception is that he squandered LeBron and then blew a whole string of lottery picks ... well, I think it takes a very slanted reading of history to get to that conclusion.
 
Truth is, that die was cast before Gilbert ever bought the team. There were two big events in the summer of 2004 that essentially doomed the LeBron-centered rebuild:

1. They drafted Luke Jackson with the #10 pick in the draft;
2. They stupidly let Carlos Boozer get away as a free agent.

IOW, they pissed away their two best attempts at getting young talent to grow with LeBron. (Not to mention that they also had traded away two future #1 picks, which ended up being transferred in 2005 and 2007.) And again, that all happened before Gilbert was owner.

Those moves put Gilbert (and his GM, Danny Ferry) behind the eight ball from the start. They tried valiantly to get talent around Bron, but it was kind of impossible by then, as any other assets they may have been able to use in a trade had already been squandered by the previous regime.

I'm also not sure how he/the Cavs got a reputation as a burner of lottery picks. With their four top picks in the previous three drafts, they took Irving, Thompson, Waiters, and Bennett. Irving is one of the two best players to come out of the draft in the past three years; I think they hit on that one. Waiters is emerging as one of the better players from 2012. 2013 was a sewer pipe of a draft; it's not like they left LeBron and Durant on the board to reach for Bennett; the whole draft sucked.

There are reasons to criticize Gilbert, sure. But if the perception is that he squandered LeBron and then blew a whole string of lottery picks ... well, I think it takes a very slanted reading of history to get to that conclusion.


this is what I have been screaming for years. I blame Dan Gilbert for a lot (bringing Mike Brown back, that target-on-the-back drawing letter), but not for "failing to get a team around LeBron". That letter has skewed a lot of people's ability to see the truth of the matter.
 
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Jabari Parker

Parker is versatile, but relative to Andrew Wiggins, he’s much less active in the midrange and more active near the basket. Still, his blend of strong interior skills and a jumper good enough to stretch opposing defenses is what makes him a top offensive prospect. Now if he could only learn to play defense …

All this means is that Jabari understands the 2 most efficient shots on the court are the 3 pointer and at the rim. Means nothing else.
 
Caught up on Jabari news. No interest whatsoever in getting him now if he tanked his workout. Let him go to Milwaukee and that pitiful team and suck there for the next 4-5 years. I'll gladly take Wiggins and laugh all the way to the playoffs next year.
 
I will not be eating pizza this evening in the hope that he will not be the selection.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Lunch with top prospects <a href="https://twitter.com/JabariParker">@JabariParker</a> &amp; <a href="https://twitter.com/NoahVonleh">@NoahVonleh</a> before tonight's <a href="https://twitter.com/NBADraft">@NBADraft</a> <a href="http://t.co/eGPeTQGS9F">pic.twitter.com/eGPeTQGS9F</a></p>&mdash; NBA (@NBA) <a href="https://twitter.com/NBA/statuses/482202769231589376">June 26, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Keep filling that plate, Jabari. You need those greens!
 
Vonleh needs more food. For fucks sake, how will he play down low ever?
 
Just re-watched some Parker highlights. Kid is athletic enough to be a dynamo offensive talent. I think (jokes asside) Paul Pierce is a really good comparison when you go back and watch PP at Kansas. I would be happy with Wiggins too, but Parker can easily give us 16-18 a night as soon as next year (how many times can you say that about a rookie)
I would not be shocked if he lead the NBA in scoring sometime in his career. Time to get excited if his name is called!!!!!!!
 
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The case for Jabari Parker at No. 1




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Maybe Andrew Wiggins will turn out to be the best player in this NBA Draft. He loves to play defense, which you can’t say of many top NBA draft picks, and he has been called a freak athlete so many times that Freak Athlete seems like part of his name: Freak Athlete Andrew Wiggins.

Or maybe Wiggins’s Kansas teammate, Joel Embiid, will be the best. Embiid looked like the No. 1 pick until his recent foot injury, and while the words “injury-prone, inexperienced center with potential” are absolutely frightening at this time of year, Embiid is different. He doesn’t just have All-Star talent; he has All-Star moves right now. Absolutely, he could be the best player out of this draft if he is healthy.

Or maybe Dante Exum will be the best. He looked like it in international competition last summer, when he more than held his own against most of the top players in this year’s draft.
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Any of those things is possible. But the No. 1 pick should be Jabari Parker. The Duke forward is a scoring machine, a natural winner, with the mental acuity, physical skills and priorities to be a foundational player for an NBA title contender. The Cleveland Cavaliersshould take him No. 1, put him on the floor with Kyrie Irving, and watch them develop into one of the best duos in the NBA.

People often throw backhanded compliments at Parker: He is the “safe pick” who is “most likely to help right away.” The implication is that Parker is sure to be good but is unlikely to be great. Look closer, and you’ll see that he is the draft prospect who is most likely to be great.

Parker played out of position for most of the season at Duke. He split most of his time between power forward and center, when he is really a small forward. I don’t fault Duke coach Mike Krzyzewski for this. Coach K’s job is to win games, and with Duke’s limited roster, it made sense to play Parker inside.

But what makes Parker great is that he is a pure-shooting small forward who can handle the ball, even though he has the size of power forward. (At 6-foot-8, 240 pounds, Parker is roughly the same size as LeBron James, though with a different build.) A player that big, with Parker’s skill set and mental toughness, can absolutely devastate defenses from the outside in. He is a better athlete than people realize, even though he is not the runner and leaper that Wiggins is. Parker can post up -- he did it in high school -- but in the NBA, he will only do that when he has a matchup advantage against a smaller player. At Duke, he had to do it all the time.

Parker still showed the skills that will make him one of the top picks in this year’s draft. The most common NBA comparison for Parker isCarmelo Anthony, and their freshman stats (available on sports-reference.com) are amazingly similar:

Parker: 50.4% from two-point range, 35.8% from three, 25 points and 11.4 rebounds per 40 minutes.

Anthony: 49.6% from two-point range, 33.7% from three, 24.4 points and 11.0 rebounds per 40 minutes.

There are three main differences between the two. At Syracuse, Anthony got to play small forward, his natural position. He also played in Jim Boeheim’s 2-3 zone, so we did not see the two weaknesses we saw with Parker -- fitness (the zone does not require as much running) and defensive attentiveness (Parker, like most freshmen, had some lapses).

The third difference, of course, is that Anthony led Syracuse to the national championship while Parker’s Duke team lost to Mercer in the first round. Parker played poorly in that game -- he only scored 14 points on 14 shots. But it was one game. In Wiggins’s final college game, against Stanford in the second round, he scored four points on six shots. That was also only one game, of course, but what was disturbing was not just Wiggins’ off shooting night. He showed no interest in trying to take over the game. Wiggins is a terrific, unselfish, gifted player. But nothing about him makes you think he will be a leader. He is legendarily quiet. Wiggins has star talent but he has the mentality of a complementary player.

Parker is different. He has had his mind set on being the best since he entered high school. He needs to pay close attention to nutrition so he avoids excess body fat, but talk to people who know him and they insist he will be in shape. Basketball means too much to him. His character is above reproach -- there is almost no chance of Parker getting lazy or partying too much when he gets his first NBA paycheck.

Even when he struggled occasionally in the post at Duke, Parker never stopped competing. He averaged 9.8 rebounds in ACC play -- again, this is a natural small forward -- and showed he will scrap with bigger players. That should encourage any of the teams at the top of the lottery; they each have a long way to go to become title contenders, and Parker wants to drive the bus.

If you were an NBA general manager, with your job on the line -- because a general manager’s job is always on the line -- how could you pass this up? Understand: Last year, Wiggins got to play his natural position, for a more talented team, in a weaker league than Parker, yet Parker was a better player. Exum’s body of work is still limited. Embiid has played one season against serious competition but suffered two significant injuries, and there are real questions about whether his body can handle NBA pounding for 82 nights per year. In many drafts, Embiid would be an easy No. 1 choice anyway. In most drafts, Wiggins or Exum would be perfectly fine top selections. But this is not most drafts, because Jabari Parker is available.

Take him.







Article posted today at Sports Illustrated website.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Lunch with top prospects <a href="https://twitter.com/JabariParker">@JabariParker</a> & <a href="https://twitter.com/NoahVonleh">@NoahVonleh</a> before tonight's <a href="https://twitter.com/NBADraft">@NBADraft</a> <a href="http://t.co/eGPeTQGS9F">pic.twitter.com/eGPeTQGS9F</a></p>— NBA (@NBA) <a href="https://twitter.com/NBA/statuses/482202769231589376">June 26, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Keep filling that plate, Jabari. You need those greens!

Vonleh is fine (260) in that photo, he is just overshadowed by Jabari who is now weighing in at 300...:chuckles:
 
Parker will be the pick. Too much offensive firepower
 
anyone have a place to watch the draft on a stream? giving out some old school rep

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my bad thought i posted this in the draft thread
 
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Cleveland is reportedly asking Philadelphia for Nos. 3, 10 and 32 in exchange for No. 1
 

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