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A Closer Look at Jared Sullinger

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If by "right about that" you mean "totally wrong" then ok.

As for Sullinger getting owned by a "white" boy, it amuses me to see the underlined racist tone here. As if it's somehow bad that a "white" boy outplayed him. Soooo much worse than if a black guy had outplayed him, right?

Aw come on. NONE of us are experts in here. We shouldn't be running off members who contribute. We should be wanting/asking them to stay. Debates and disagreements are tons of fun IMO.

I appreciate your contributions Greg. Stay awhile.
 
it wasn't the one comment, so much as it was a constant degrading of Andy Varejao and consistently saying Hollins is a better player. It was absolutely absurd...with that in mind, it's hard to take any analysis you have seriously.

Aw come on. NONE of us are experts in here. We shouldn't be running off members who contribute. We should be wanting/asking them to stay. Debates and disagreements are tons of fun IMO.

I appreciate your contributions Greg. Stay awhile.




"please delete the prior post as I quoted the wrong member. lol"
 
by the way...fuck all you bitches for piling on me about the Ryan Hollins comment...i hope you all drown in a shallow puddle of aids. i said he was a natural athlete with a lot of raw athletic ability - he's fast, agile, and is a great leaper....and i'm still right about that...unfortunately he doesn't have the mental ability to translate that into performance on the court....i'm outta here....all you petty fuckers won't let one comment die....fuck you all. it's obvious you assholes want me gone...so i will oblige...goodbye...thanks to the people who weren't assholes...i occaisionally had a good time on this board when dickheads weren't bringing up one Ryans Hollins comment i made months ago..

I sure will miss this...
 
I'm not the biggest Sullinger fan and didn't really want him for the Cavs but he can play and should at least be a fairly solid player in the NBA. His size and lack of athleticism will be an issue but he's still a smart player who knows how to use what he does have.

The biggest issue for the Cavs is that every top prospect that stays in school only lessens the pool of talent and who will be available for them, especially with the second lottery pick.
 
Asking a college player if they are staying right after a loss in the tourney is like a woman asking if you love her right after sex. Of course you say yes - but that doesn't mean you'll remember it tomorrow.
 
Sully is what, still 18 or maybe 19 years old now? Who's to say this kid won't grow another inch or two in the next year? If he grew and also got leaner and put on muscle, he could be a real stud for next year's draft. Another year of school could really do him some good. Maybe OSU could put him through a more rigorous type of training program to add muscle while getting more lean.
 
I see a shorter, feistier John "Hot Plate" Williams. Or maybe a 21st-century Tractor Traylor, with better ups.
 
Asking a college player if they are staying right after a loss in the tourney is like a woman asking if you love her right after sex. Of course you say yes - but that doesn't mean you'll remember it tomorrow.

Nice analogy.
I seem to recall Tristan Thompson saying he would be returning to Texas, when they lost to Arizona. Now, there are reports that he's signed with an agent and will be declaring for the draft:

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/212571/Report_Tristan_Thompson_Signs_With_Agent


Take what these players say after a loss with a grain of salt. Besides, with the NBA pushing for a 3 year college minimum, players like Irving & Sullinger would have to wait until the 2013 draft before they could declare again. I think Irving definately comes out, but I'm not so sure about Sully. I think he might stay.
 
Aw come on. NONE of us are experts in here. We shouldn't be running off members who contribute. We should be wanting/asking them to stay. Debates and disagreements are tons of fun IMO.

I appreciate your contributions Greg. Stay awhile.

The dude said he wanted me and others to die in a pool of aids. Forgive me if I'm not upset to see him go.
 
Good. I'm glad he's staying. He needs to lose 25 pounds of baby fat and learn how to jump.
 
Good. I'm glad he's staying. He needs to lose 25 pounds of baby fat and learn how to jump.

Most definitely, just think how awesome of a NBA prospect he will be by this time next year.
 
Most definitely, just think how awesome of a NBA prospect he will be by this time next year.

I'm not sure about that. The only reason he's a "prospect" this year is because of how weak this draft is. Even if he loses 25 pounds and learns to jump, it probably won't make him a top 10 next year given how deep the draft is.

That kid will get owned in the NBA.
 
Sully is what, still 18 or maybe 19 years old now? Who's to say this kid won't grow another inch or two in the next year? If he grew and also got leaner and put on muscle, he could be a real stud for next year's draft. Another year of school could really do him some good. Maybe OSU could put him through a more rigorous type of training program to add muscle while getting more lean.

All good points. Carlos Boozer played at about 280 at Duke, and lost about 25 pounds between the end of the college season and the beginning of his first pro season. It dramatically improved his game. Plus, big men who rely more on skill than pure athleticism really seem to benefit from more time in college to develop moves and an offensive repertoire, because developing such moves once you hit the NBA is a lot tougher.

Sullinger may not get more fit, and may not end up improving his moves, but that's far from a sure thing. I'd agree that an extra year in college likely will make him a better pro, and given that rookie contracts are scaled anyway, entering the league as a more polished guy who can play rather than ride the bench may mean more money in the long term anyway.

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That kid will get owned in the NBA.

It's way too early to say that. Success in the NBA is not dependent upon freakish athleticism. I mentioned Boozer up above, and I think Sullinger has the potential to be that kind of guy, especially if he loses some weight and adds some muscle. He's got that good shooting touch like Boozer, which can be a huge asset for a power forward. And while his footwork isn't that great yet, neither was Boozer's as a college freshman, and Sullinger's shown enough in that regard that it is reasonable to expect it can be improved.

Just an opinion here, but I think some folks tend to fall in love with the type of freakish athleticism we see in some wing players, and overlook fundamentals and an understanding of the game that can be particularly important factors when talking about big men.
 

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