A Thread About Women

[-Akronite-]

It would be very difficult, but not impossible. An exercise in mental discipline can be a good thing.
Maybe if the site owners saw that some of us can talk issues without an obvious political slant they would open things back up.
It is not so much an aversion to politically discussion as it is a distaste for extremely partisan political talk peppered with insults and personal attacks.

I don't even mind political slant. People feel a certain way and try to back up their arguments. I try to learn what I can from people that disagree with me. But discussions often become circular, focusing on the quality of sources, bickering about which facts are accepted, complaints about posting style, etc. And when things got heated, they would shift into rule-breaking territory with the personal attacks, yes.

The thing is, we CAN talk about politics without it being as testy as it's been, but it becomes really difficult the more polarized we are, not only in our opinions but in what we even see as reality. Hell, a lot of stories don't even start a conversation, it just launches one side into a trollfest.

Can we discuss feminism, race relations, or terrorism without politics coming into play? Not likely. But CAN we (note: we haven't ) keep it civil and let arguments go when they become circular and the only thing being accomplished is escalating derision? I'd say yes but, and I admit I haven't always been part of the solution, we haven't in a while.

 

[Wrathe]

I don't even mind political slant. People feel a certain way and try to back up their arguments. I try to learn what I can from people that disagree with me. But discussions often become circular, focusing on the quality of sources, bickering about which facts are accepted, complaints about posting style, etc. And when things got heated, they would shift into rule-breaking territory with the personal attacks, yes.

The thing is, we CAN talk about politics without it being as testy as it's been, but it becomes really difficult the more polarized we are, not only in our opinions but in what we even see as reality. Hell, a lot of stories don't even start a conversation, it just launches one side into a trollfest.

Can we discuss feminism, race relations, or terrorism without politics coming into play? Not likely. But CAN we (note: we haven't ) keep it civil and let arguments go when they become circular and the only thing being accomplished is escalating derision? I'd say yes but, and I admit I haven't always been part of the solution, we haven't in a while.

There were people crusading for a few months now to get these threads closed. Dissenting voice silenced. Mission accomplished. It's sad that its allowed to ruin the experience for the rest of us.

You can't even discuss movie reviews (Get Out; for example) as the topic can get wildly political.

Dunno why I'm posting this. I guess it's my way of mourning the loss, hehe.

 

[Tlyons]

Everyone just stfu with this blame game shit.

Not winning any arguments here.

Just move on.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

There were people crusading for a few months now to get these threads closed. Dissenting voice silenced. Mission accomplished. It's sad that its allowed to ruin the experience for the rest of us.

I'm fine with political discussions being off limits here as long as that applies to all political discussions, and doesn't change just because there is a different President, or because they're excited that control of Congress has changed, or because people want to discuss a politician who isn't as "polarizing". Because if that happens, then it really means that someone being disruptive is a valid tactic for eliminating discussion about a politician that person doesn't like.

 

[gourimoko]

I'm fine with political discussions being off limits here as long as that applies to all political discussions, and doesn't change just because there is a different President, or because they're excited that control of Congress has changed, or because people want to discuss a politician who isn't as "polarizing". Because if that happens, then it really means that someone being disruptive is a valid tactic for eliminating discussion about a politician that person doesn't like.

That's definitely not a reasonable take on what's happened. I'm not even sure how either of you guys is acting like this hasn't been a shit-show for the past 18 months....

(snip)

Look, it's beating a dead horse. And trying to autopsy the threads serves no purpose other than to find a proxy for a political conversation in the first place.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

That's definitely not a reasonable take on what's happened. I'm not even sure how either of you guys is acting like this hasn't been a shit-show for the past 18 months....

(snip)

Look, it's beating a dead horse. And trying to autopsy the threads serves no purpose other than to find a proxy for a political conversation in the first place.

The reasons don't matter at this point.

All I'm saying is that the ban should stay in effect regardless of who is President, who wins elections, or who is being discussed. That's all.

Pretty easy for any of us to make sure that happens, actually.

 

[gourimoko]

The reasons don't matter at thos point.

All I'm saying is that the ban should stay in effect regardless of who is President, who wins elections, or who is being discussed. That's all.

Pretty easy for any of us to make sure that happens, actually.

I think you and I both know this is a unique time in America ... it hasn't been this divisive since Nixon. But, I can't really get into it, for obvious reasons.

Anyway, I agree to an extent about what you're saying though.

 

[DaNewCavs]

I'm more of a lurker than a poster, but I actually liked the political threads, because it gave me different sources from both sides of the aisle that I would not normally read. Sure it's frustrating sometimes when there are 3 pages of insults and no constructive arguments. But a ban would work better than shutting down an entire thread. If people insult each other in the Cavs game day thread, we wouldn't shut that down. The appropriate people would get banned.

 

[Jack Brickman]

I don't think anyone would consider a thread about dating to be political in nature.

I don't date Republicans.

Boom. You're wrong, gouri. Suck it.

 

[Huber.]

I don't date Republicans.

Boom. You're wrong, gouri. Suck it.

Not into attractive women?

 

[Jack Brickman]

Not into attractive women?

Not into inbred women.

 

[gourimoko]

This thread should be moved to EAYOR...

 

[Jack Brickman]

This thread should be moved to EAYOR...

Why? It was such a civil discussion of women's ri...

 

[Huber.]

Not into inbred women.

No wonder you're having a hard time dating in the south.

 

[Jack Brickman]

No wonder you're having a hard time dating in the south.

Basically everyone in Charlotte is from the north.