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That's what I said in my post. You would have to come up with a better system. I mean how do you police potentially billions of posts?
It's not my job to come up with the answer, but it's clearly a YouTube issue that is getting legitimate content removed.
 
But if they blindly take every-bodies word for it then clearly there is a YouTube problem.
That's what I said in my post. You would have to come up with a better system. I mean how do you police potentially billions of posts?

Ty, YouTube is a social media platform with specific guidelines... If someone reports a video, it generally gets reviewed; if not by a human, than by a computer running a speech/text analysis heuristic. If the account that posted the video attempts to appeal, then a human might get involved and actually look at the video -- but in the instance of the Alt-Right videos you're talking about, there's very little likelihood that anything would need to be reviewed as much Alt-Right content violates YouTube TOS as it is.

So in all of this, I think you're completely ignoring the reality that YouTube TOS is what is determining what trends, shows up in searches or recommended videos, gets monetized, or is even allowed to remain on the platform.

So you realize there isn't a "problem" with Alt-Right videos getting taken down, right?
 
Testosterone and adrenaline aren't social constructs and they obviously have real world implications on your personality, how you see, and how you behave with society. Science also indicates there are general differences in inherent communication styles and inherent interest between men and womrn

Sure but there is also more variation between women then there is between men and women.
 
It's not my job to come up with the answer, but it's clearly a YouTube issue that is getting legitimate content removed.

Wait.. what?

How is Alt-Right content considered "legitimate?"
 
Testosterone and adrenaline aren't social constructs and they obviously have real world implications on your personality, how you see, and how you behave with society.

Okay... not sure where you're going with that?

Science also indicates there are general differences in inherent communication styles and inherent interest between men and womrn

Not sure what that has to do with women being able to write code as efficiently as men. Interest is irrelevant since we're talking about people in the same field; and I'm not sure how differing communication styles actually means anything as it relates to productivity. Men and women, people, all of us, have varying communication styles..

So you need to actually demonstrate how/why any of what you just said would actually affect the productivity of a software developer. Because as it stands, this comes off as nothing more than a hasty generalization based on some cherry-picked factoids.
 
Sure but there is also more variation between women then there is between men and women.
Depends on what youre looking at.

In any event, if someone is saying "this is how to help women here" yiu don't call them sexist bla bla bla. And analyzing why men in general are more suited for a field isn't sexist, especially if we're talking about why there is a discrepancy in number of each sex in the field.

Guys are better at lifting heavy shit. That isn't sexist
 
Maybe you can point me to where I said specifically that Alt Right content was legitimate or not.

... You're not saying that?

Alt right has been getting a bunch of videos removed employing this tactic recently.
Yeah, I hate this tactic regardless of who is doing it. YouTube needs to change their policy if videos can succumb to what amounts to review bombing.
It's not my job to come up with the answer, but it's clearly a YouTube issue that is getting legitimate content removed.

???

I mean, I'll just ask, do you think Alt-Right content and hate speech is a violation of YouTube's TOS?
 
... You're not saying that?





???

I mean, I'll just ask, do you think Alt-Right content and hate speech is a violation of YouTube's TOS?
I haven't read their TOS. Do you think Ctrl-Left content is in violation? And no, im not saying that. When I said legitimate content I refereed to all content, not just political.
 
Yo
... You're not saying that?





???

I mean, I'll just ask, do you think Alt-Right content and hate speech is a violation of YouTube's TOS?
You read this wrong.

Im out of the thread for the day, way too much activity here right now.
 
Depends on what youre looking at.

In any event, if someone is saying "this is how to help women here" yiu don't call them sexist bla bla bla. And analyzing why men in general are more suited for a field isn't sexist, especially if we're talking about why there is a discrepancy in number of each sex in the field.

Guys are better at lifting heavy shit. That isn't sexist
Men and Women are all the same, except when it's inconvenient.
 
In any event, if someone is saying "this is how to help women here" yiu don't call them sexist bla bla bla.

He wasn't trying to "help women," he was making an argument about reverse racism, anti-White male discrimination, and then trying to assert causal effects for the gender gap in STEM as it specifically relates to computer science. His assertion was based on the (false) narrative that women are somehow less apt then men as programmers, and that explains the wage gap in the field.

He tries to couch this argument as saying "I'm only trying to help women."

Lastly, his manifesto is textbook sexism and is an irrational and ignorant take on women's ability as programmers (and he wasn't even in a position to evaluate any of his female colleagues).

If sitting at your desk and ranting about the inferiority of your female colleagues is not workplace sexism; then nothing is... So this "bla bla bla" part of your post really doesn't make sense to me as it seems to imply that we should just destroy the identification of sexists or even the mental concept of sexism itself, even if the term is applicable to the acts in question.

And analyzing why men in general are more suited for a field isn't sexist, especially if we're talking about why there is a discrepancy in number of each sex in the field.

Sure in some cases it is and in some cases it isn't; but that's not the problem here. The problem here is that no one has done this. Damore didn't do it, and saying "men and women are different" doesn't do it. So again, where is this analysis taking place and how is it Damore's job to do such an analysis in the first place?

Guys are better at lifting heavy shit. That isn't sexist

But it would be sexist if you told a female warehouse worker she was less fit to do a job than a man, even though they both knew how to operate a forklift and a pallet jack ... You see what I'm saying man: it would be sexist if pure physical strength was not a determining factor in your job.

It would be sexist if you're a programmer, who relies on your mental ability, abstract reasoning, and logical/critical thinking to do your job effectively, and are then being told you are somehow 'less suitable' because some of some guy's views on gender.

That's why Damore's unscientific ramblings are indeed sexist. He's not an expert, nor has he done any academic study or real critical research on any of the topics being discussed -- he was just rationalizing his political views and looking for acceptance and approval from his colleagues at Google. He got fired for it, because it created a huge problem of toxicity in the workplace.

What he did was clearly sexist.... Again, if that's not sexism, then nothing is.
 
Men and Women are all the same, except when it's inconvenient.

Are women intellectually inferior to men as it relates to logic, language, and abstract reasoning? That's the actual question here....

We can play games and dance around question because it's unpalatable; but, the reality is that anyone arguing that women are biologically less capable programmers is asserting that women are deficient in these particular areas of reasoning....
 
I haven't read their TOS. Do you think Ctrl-Left content is in violation? And no, im not saying that. When I said legitimate content I refereed to all content, not just political.

Sorry I didn't mean to dodge this question; but just missed the post.. Can you give examples of what you're calling "Ctrl-Left" content?
 
Are women intellectually inferior to men as it relates to logic, language, and abstract reasoning? That's the actual question here....

We can play games and dance around question because it's unpalatable; but, the reality is that anyone arguing that women are biologically less capable programmers is asserting that women are deficient in these particular areas of reasoning....
No, women aren’t inferior intellectually. Furthermore, nobody here nor google guy made that claim. There are biological differences though, and I don’t see why differences is a bad thing. Given free choice men and women pick different fields. Google guy to me wrote that as a way to increase the so called diversity for which Google is desperately trying to achieve.

Google is too concerned with equality of outcome when in reality all there should be is equality of opportunity.
 
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