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yes we get it, Cleveland needs BOSH.

We're not getting him though.
 
Dont worry, we can always get Kevin Durant!

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Not sure where we'd stick him :chuckles:
 
JK23 said:
A 6'10 shooting guard with length that can create matchup problems wouldn't be to bad. :chuckles:
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I'd you-know-what.

Too bad Durant isnt a FA any time soon :chuckles:
 
EDIT: After second thought, I decided I'd just stick with my post instead of being a pussy. If you disagree, please discuss. The biggest indicator that this would work would be how desperate New Orleans is to save money. That's how I crafted this idea, I also tried to balance out talent ratios the best I could. If New Orleans is going to shave salary, they are going to have to make some difficult roster decisions because there aren't many teams that would be interested in their overinflated contracts.

Picks
Cleveland
#30, #46

New Orleans
#21

Toronto
#9

Trade http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=odog9e

Cleveland
Incoming: Chris Bosh, Antonio Daniels
Outgoing: Ben Wallace, Sasha Pavlovic, J.J. Hickson, #30 pick

Toronto:
Incoming: David West, J.J. Hickson, Peja Stojakovich*, Cleveland's #30 pick
Outgoing: Chris Bosh, Andrea Bargnani, #9 Pick

New Orleans:
Incoming: Andrea Bargnani, Ben Wallace, Sasha Pavlovic, Toronto's #9 pick
Outgoing: David West, Peja Stojakovich*

*Could interchange Peja Stojakovich for Tyson Chandler

Salaries

Cleveland
Incoming: $20.6M
Outgoing: $20.3M

Toronto
Incoming: $23.7M
Outgoing: $19.5M

New Orleans
Incoming: $24.2M**
Outgoing: $28.5M

**Sasha's contract is only guaranteed for $1.5M. Actual NO incoming = $21.2M

Analysis & Reasoning

Again, I crafted this trade to save New Orleans money while at the same time giving them some talent, potential, and breathing room salary wise for the next two seasons. In this economy how many teams are going to take on some of these contracts without also getting talent in exchange? It's tough to find cheap talent that teams would be interested in parting with. New Orleans is about $8M over the salary cap. This trade saves them over $7M. Yeah, David West seems like a dealbreaker, but there were talks about involving West with Detroit. This trade nets NO $7M in savings, a developing talent in Bargnani, and a nice possible choice in Toronto's 9th pick. New Orleans has a young frontcourt in Bargnani and Chandler. You have a couple of defensive minded veteran forwards in Ben Wallace and James Posey. They could draft a nice shooting/combo guard to play with Chris Paul with either their pick or the one they gain from Toronto. This gives them some young talent to work with, refreshing their roster and giving them some breathing room financially.

Toronto loses Chris Bosh, Andrea Bargnani, and their #9 pick in exchange for another All-Star in David West, veteran forward Peja Stojakovich capable of shooting the 3. They also gain a young promising big man in J.J. Hickson and Cleveland's first round draft pick. Not bad of an exchange if Chris Bosh legitimately wants out of Toronto. I've read reports that Bargnani's willingness to sign a contract extension will be directly linked to what Chris Bosh does. Giving up the draft pick may seem off limits, but if Chris Bosh (and probably Andrea Bargnani) are leaving, they need to sweeten the deal to get someone like David West who is inked to a three season deal starting next season. You could also make the argument that getting someone like J.J. Hickson in the trade is equivalent to some of the talent that could be taken with the 9th pick.

Cleveland obviously acquires Chris Bosh and a bad contract in Antonio Daniels from New Orleans as part of the salary shredding for NO. Giving up Ben Wallace and Sasha have been talked about as they are our biggest assets not in the starting lineup. J.J. Hickson is a developing big man with lots of upside, but he's got to be used in this trade to balance things out better. Giving up our first rounder isn't that significant because we address our aging frontcourt with Chris Bosh and still have a second round pick to pull another young talent to work with along with D-Block. Perhaps the biggest element of this trade is that we pull Bosh without touching our starting lineup. While Antonio Daniels isn't exactly prime time talent, he is another PG and his salary does come off the books after next season.

Again, this is all dependent on New Orleans' willingness to get as close to the salary cap as possible while still getting some talent back and setting them up nicely for the summer of 2010 with Wallace's expiring. Why would New Orleans get involved with us? Well, we do have pieces that offer them salary relief immediately and a huge salary leverage in Wallace's contract. Also, Toronto and Cleveland are not in their conference. How many other teams (Chicago, Miami, Golden State, etc) could offer Toronto someone like David West?

Alright, now feel free to bash, flame, whatever. I'm not scared...okay, maybe a little! :chuckles:
 
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Gymbo said:
Feel free to bash, hate, whatever. :)
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Im sorry Im not tryin to bash but I have a hard time believing the Hornets would do that at all. It would be close for the Raptors but If Bosh truely wants out and they can't get around it I could see them doing it. The Raps really wouldn't want to give up they're 9th pick in any way possible though.
 
Gymbo, that trade does work for everyone expect New Orleans. Paul and West are the only players there who won't be traded. They'd have to be desperate to dump salary.
Good idea and I like it for the Cavs but I don't see it working for all 3 teams.
 
Big Bosh Announcement - June 1'st
Wednesday, 27 May 2009

That's right everyone. Monday June 1'st 2009 check out www.Chris-Bosh.com for a big announcement from Chris Bosh!

Were not giving any hint's, make sure you log on this monday to find out what's up!
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I wonder if this would have anything to do with his basketball future? He does like to keep his fans in the loop.

Source: http://www.chris-bosh.com/
 
How about Pavs, Hickson, 1st rounder, filler

for BOSH

and

Wallace and Darnell

for Chandler
 
TheISHT said:
How about Pavs, Hickson, 1st rounder, filler

for BOSH

and

Wallace and Darnell

for Chandler
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Why would Toronto take that

The reality is we have nothing to trade
 
daytripper said:
The Bulls can offer Deng, Ty Thomas, picks...

The Heats can offer Beasley, Haslem, and picks...

The Blazers have a ton of young talent if they choose to pursue Bosh..

The Warriors could offer Biedrins or Ellis, Randolph, Wright, and a lottery pick..

Toronto will likely want talent in return so I don't see how the Cavs can compete with those offers. On a positive note there could be some bigs available for cap space this offseason but they will be a notch or two below Bosh talentwise.
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No way in hell Miami trades Beasley.
 
Just a couple of things..

It's very doubtful that if the Raptors do trade Bosh, they'll trade him to a team such as the Cavs and make a dynasty with he and LeBron... Anything could happen but I doubt it..

I bet any trade that we make, that is a big time trade involving pretty good players, will almost certainly be with a Western Conference team unless some Eastern Conference team is in dire straits to dump salary..

Second, these offers for Bosh are pretty bad IMHO... My offer would look something like this:

Delonte West
JJ Hickson
Ben Wallace
Sasha Pavlovic
1st Round pick

for

Chris Bosh
Jason Kapono
Kris Humphries/Marcus Banks

And I'm not sure that is even enough...
 
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