Farewell Kyle Korver

[Ohio]

"There's still something in there," Korver told cleveland.com. "It's getting better but it hasn't come along like I'd hoped. I should've stopped playing on it a week and a half earlier. Now that I'm out, we might as well let it come all the way back, but it just hasn't yet."

Oh

 

[BimboColesHair]

"There's still something in there," Korver told cleveland.com. "It's getting better but it hasn't come along like I'd hoped. I should've stopped playing on it a week and a half earlier. Now that I'm out, we might as well let it come all the way back, but it just hasn't yet."

Oh

Dude needs to find better fitting shoes, and in a hurry.

 

[Cavs29fan]

Getting worried he's going to be out of rhythm if he doesn't play with the group soon. We only have so many games left.

 

[Sir'Dom Pointer]

Idiotic. How does that even happen?

 

[cavsfever]

It sure is taking him a while to find a new pair of shoes. Good thing we know that Lue and the coaching staff didn't overplay him injured, because they would never ever do that.

 

[bryankdavis]

I mean, if this were the playoffs, I'm sure he would be playing. He played for a week and half on the things and shot lights out.

I'm not worried.

 

[Sir'Dom Pointer]

I mean, if this were the playoffs, I'm sure he would be playing. He played for a week and half on the things and shot lights out.

I'm not worried.

No.. he was pretty bad in that stretch.

 

[kookoo]

Did Korver tell the staff he was uncomfortable though?

 

[bryankdavis]

No.. he was pretty bad in that stretch.

In the 7 games from Thursday, February 23rd (1.5 weeks before last game) - Monday, March 6th (his last game):

Average Minutes: 27
Average Points: 11.2
Average 3 %: 43.1

If that is "pretty bad", then I will take that any day in the playoffs.

I get your point, his last game was atrocious against Miami, but maybe the above stats will open your mind about the possibility that if the playoffs started today Korver would be playing.

 

[Sir'Dom Pointer]

In the 7 games from Thursday, February 23rd (1.5 weeks before last game) - Monday, March 6th (his last game):

Average Minutes: 27
Average Points: 11.2
Average 3 %: 43.1

If that is "pretty bad", then I will take that any day in the playoffs.

I get your point, his last game was atrocious against Miami, but maybe the above stats will open your mind about the possibility that if the playoffs started today Korver would be playing.

I don't really put much significance to the stats in that case. I'll go by the old eye test. His defense suffered greatly, his lateral quickness and foot speed aswell.
If you want to look at stats then fine, 43% as good as it is for humans, is still much lower than he shot after he was fully integrated.

Sure he could still play in the finals.. But we want him to be at his best. For him to be effective he has to move well so he doesn't cost us points on the defensive end.

 

[BimboColesHair]

It sure is taking him a while to find a new pair of shoes. Good thing we know that Lue and the coaching staff didn't overplay him injured, because they would never ever do that.

https://www.podparadise.com/Podcast/Listen?i=1195897108&d=1489076907&o=0

"I should have stopped playing a week and a half earlier" also means he should have stopped playing before the knee injury even took place...you know, the knee injury that you assumed caused his foot injury in a long post where you had to tell me how the human body works like I'm a fucking idiot...

Go listen to his teammate in that pod, then find something more concrete about the reason his foot flared up on him than something coming directly from his teammate. You can't. Keep assuming, homie.

 

[cavsfever]

In the 7 games from Thursday, February 23rd (1.5 weeks before last game) - Monday, March 6th (his last game):

Average Minutes: 27
Average Points: 11.2
Average 3 %: 43.1

If that is "pretty bad", then I will take that any day in the playoffs.

I get your point, his last game was atrocious against Miami, but maybe the above stats will open your mind about the possibility that if the playoffs started today Korver would be playing.

In the week and a half after he hurt his knee against Chicago, the injury that some people here are still in denial about, he played in five games and averaged just 9 PPG and 37.5% from 3. In the five games before he hurt his knee against Chicago he averaged 14 PPG on 64.3% three point shooting, looks like a little bit of a dropoff to me.

We should want him healthy enough to look like one of the greatest 3 point shooters in NBA history again, which he has the capacity to be, not limping around looking like just another decent 3 point shooter.

 

[bryankdavis]

I don't really put much significance to the stats in that case. I'll go by the old eye test. His defense suffered greatly, his lateral quickness and foot speed aswell.
If you want to look at stats then fine, 43% as good as it is for humans, is still much lower than he shot after he was fully integrated.

Sure he could still play in the finals.. But we want him to be at his best. For him to be effective he has to move well so he doesn't cost us points on the defensive end.

I watch those games too, and I saw what you saw from a mobility standpoint.

Point I'm making is that even if he does not come back at 100%, he will come back, and the (worst-case) diminished Kyle Korver will still be good for us in the playoffs.

 

[cavsfever]

https://www.podparadise.com/Podcast/Listen?i=1195897108&d=1489076907&o=0

"I should have stopped playing a week and a half earlier" also means he should have stopped playing before the knee injury even took place...you know, the knee injury that you assumed caused his foot injury in a long post where you had to tell me how the human body works like I'm a fucking idiot...

Go listen to his teammate in that pod, then find something more concrete about the reason his foot flared up on him than something coming directly from his teammate. You can't. Keep assuming, homie.

LOL, for a guy who hands out disagrees so regularly you have a pretty thin skin. The Chicago knee injury which clearly exacerbated his foot problem happened one week and two days before the last game he played in -- he played his last game on Monday March 6th against Miami and hurt his knee playing Chicago on Saturday February 25th. So "I should have stopped playing a week and a half earlier" means "I should have stopped playing right around the time I hurt my knee against Chicago".

Amazing I can have Kyle Korver, on tape, saying I'm right that he hurt his knee in the Chicago game, I'm right that his knee was still hurting the day after that game, I'm right that he should have been shut down after that injury, and people will still want to argue about it.

 

[BimboColesHair]

In the week and a half after he hurt his knee against Chicago, the injury that some people here are still in denial about, he played in five games and averaged just 9 PPG and 37.5% from 3. In the five games before he hurt his knee against Chicago he averaged 14 PPG on 64.3% three point shooting, looks like a little bit of a dropoff to me.

We should want him healthy enough to look like one of the greatest 3 point shooters in NBA history again, which he has the capacity to be, not limping around looking like just another decent 3 point shooter.

Lets do a simple math lesson, since you gave me a simple anatomy lesson.

1 week = 7 days.

1.5 weeks = 10.5 days.

Time frame between Korver's knee injury, and last game = 8 days.

You're really reaching to make the knee injury fall in line with the time frame of the foot injury. You really don't want to accept that they are 2 unrelated issues.

But I'll take it as a win that someone who is actually paid to cover the team, is around the players, and gets to have personal contact with the players liked my previous post...