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Farewell Kyle Korver

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Grade the Trade (Korver for Dunleavy, Williams, 2019 1st)

  • A+

    Votes: 91 41.2%
  • A

    Votes: 98 44.3%
  • B

    Votes: 30 13.6%
  • C

    Votes: 1 0.5%
  • D

    Votes: 1 0.5%
  • F

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    221
  • Poll closed .
Also, and I believe someone has been mentioning this but I can't seem to remember who, but supposedly he has been having problems with his foot for a few seasons now...same foot he has a problem with now with us that's causing him to miss games right now.


That is correct.

The foot has even been bothering him for some time this season. But it is just one of those things that a 35 year old in this league deals with. At some point in the year, it will flare up and you will need to take a little time off and rest it. It's a manageable thing.

The Cavs know what they're doing. I trust the training staff. They did a GREAT job last season bringing Kyrie along slowly, and getting him at his peak health at the perfect time so he could have a strong playoffs. They did a decent job keeping the oft-injured Delly healthy throughout most of the year. And it wasn't their fault that Mozgov's procedure wasn't successful, and he ended up needing a lot of time to get over it.

They've also done a great job keeping Shumpert healthy this year, and did a good job getting him ready in 14-15 since he was injured at the time of the trade. He was great that year, and even when he tweaked his groin in the finals, they did a good job helping him still be effective. His wrist tear last year was just a freak thing really. Just like JR's thumb this year.

And with Love, he's sustained some big injuries, and had some nagging stuff, but they've always done a good job at making sure that when he returned from injury, things went well. Which is why I'm optimistic about this year.

The most questionable thing was Kyrie's knee fiasco in the playoffs two years ago, but there was nothing structural early on, and it was the playoffs, so what could they really do? He sat for a lot of the playoffs anyway, and tried to come back for the NBA fricken finals...hard to blame them for that one...really hard.

I trust the training staff to have this team, with our current injury situation, ready to go physically for the playoffs. Obviously, they can't control any new injuries that come up....that's life in the NBA...but they have done a good job managing the cards we've been dealt so far this year. They are a solid staff.
 
It's one thing to play with something a little banged up, it's another thing to play with something that frequently leads to other injuries occurring because the player puts more stress on another area of their body because of favoring whatever is a little banged up.

At this point we should be keeping players out until they are healthy enough to play without causing a minor injury to get worse or to potentially cause injury to some other body part.

With that said, you can't rest everyone and we do need to get guys integrated together over these last 15-20 games. So, we need to have the top 10 guys out there so they can all get familiar with playing together, but still give some rest strategically to LeBron and Kyrie. If we take care of business in the first two rounds of the playoffs (and hopefully the third round too), we will have time to get some additional rest between rounds.
 
That is correct.

The foot has even been bothering him for some time this season. But it is just one of those things that a 35 year old in this league deals with. At some point in the year, it will flare up and you will need to take a little time off and rest it. It's a manageable thing.

The Cavs know what they're doing. I trust the training staff. They did a GREAT job last season bringing Kyrie along slowly, and getting him at his peak health at the perfect time so he could have a strong playoffs. They did a decent job keeping the oft-injured Delly healthy throughout most of the year. And it wasn't their fault that Mozgov's procedure wasn't successful, and he ended up needing a lot of time to get over it.

They've also done a great job keeping Shumpert healthy this year, and did a good job getting him ready in 14-15 since he was injured at the time of the trade. He was great that year, and even when he tweaked his groin in the finals, they did a good job helping him still be effective. His wrist tear last year was just a freak thing really. Just like JR's thumb this year.

And with Love, he's sustained some big injuries, and had some nagging stuff, but they've always done a good job at making sure that when he returned from injury, things went well. Which is why I'm optimistic about this year.

The most questionable thing was Kyrie's knee fiasco in the playoffs two years ago, but there was nothing structural early on, and it was the playoffs, so what could they really do? He sat for a lot of the playoffs anyway, and tried to come back for the NBA fricken finals...hard to blame them for that one...really hard.

I trust the training staff to have this team, with our current injury situation, ready to go physically for the playoffs. Obviously, they can't control any new injuries that come up....that's life in the NBA...but they have done a good job managing the cards we've been dealt so far this year. They are a solid staff.

See...and this is me assuming now...but hearing what RJ is saying, I don't think it's the shoes themselves. I'm guessing he plays with an orthotic insole inside his shoe(s? could be both feet he's having problems with), and he got one, or ones, that didn't do their job. That's what I think RJ means by "problems with his shoes".

And yeah. They've kept Kyrie healthy this year. Shump you went over. LeBron looks like he is getting more athletic by the season with us, which is ridiculous. Tristan hasn't missed a game in how long again?

But after seeing all the monitoring and shit they hook up to the players during practice at their practice facility, I just can't buy that this is a group that would play guys through things that can get worse or lead to another injury...just can't.

And all of our stuff has been freak shit this year. JR jamming his thumb, K Love bumping knees, Bogut jumping into a player who himself was jumping and taking a knee right to the leg, and now shoe problems with Korver.

Not much a training staff can do to prevent shit like that...
 
Because you are assuming the injury was worse than it was. That's why. Your entire complaint is based on nothing but assumption, fed by an after the fact injury that has been said to be unrelated to the knee injury by his own teammate.
I am not assuming anything. I'm not even talking about the following injury. At all. My complaint is based on the fact that Korver was hurt and yet was played for five games.

I get being annoyed that he get hurt twice in a short period of time. I get that.

What I don't get is how anyone could possibly believe this team, its coaches, its doctors, and its trainers willingly played a 35 year old bench player through an injury that can get worse or lead to other injuries.
I don't know whether it could have gotten worse or lead to other injuries, but he was hurt and they played him, period. This is the only point I've been making all along.

Guessing its just people looking for someone or something to be mad at, instead of accepting that unlucky injuries just happen over the course of an 82 game season. And we seem to be catching a brunt of those this season, in comparison to everyone else.
I didn't have to look for anything, it was right there for everyone to see. Furthermore, Korver talked about it so everyone knew. Lastly, it was clear immediately the following game that he was not moving the same out there and it certainly is not coincidence those were five poor games from him.

I get that some people will just bury their head in the sand and ignore all that...but, it's what happened here.
 
Good luck finding a 35 year old player, anywhere in the NBA, 60 games into the season, who DOESN'T have a sore SOMETHING. Literally. 95% of 35 year olds that play, are playing with something that doesn't feel 100%.

It's all about how sore, at the end of the day. That's a decision that is made and managed between the training staff and the player. Korver and the staff finally decided that the level of discomfort was where he needed some time off. And he took it.
Very good point. This is the part where I'm assuming it was a little bit more than just being sore, based on what we saw and what we were told. But, I can't be certain.

Anyway, I'm really looking forward to him being back in the lineup soon, hopefully tonight if he's 100% (or as close to it as he'll get).
 
Very good point. This is the part where I'm assuming it was a little bit more than just being sore, based on what we saw and what we were told. But, I can't be certain.

Anyway, I'm really looking forward to him being back in the lineup soon, hopefully tonight if he's 100% (or as close to it as he'll get).
WHAT??? YOU WANT TO RUSH HIM BACK???:chuckle:
 
WHAT??? YOU WANT TO RUSH HIM BACK???:chuckle:

Lol he lost all credibility. Rest him for a few more games definitely.
Korver is one of those guys that you can just plug in once he knows the "system". Let JR and Shumpert play more and once you insert Korver to the rotation you dump Shumpert surprised ass to the bench. He is going to flip and miss his old friend CarmHello Fathony.
 
Your last post was you being sarcastic? So you don't want him back on the court just yet? I'm confused.

Anyway, I'm really looking forward to him being back in the lineup soon, hopefully tonight if he's 100% (or as close to it as he'll get).

He was being sarcastic, I would assume.
 
Unless there's zero hesitation from everyone involved, especially Kyle. The answer is absolutely no. It doesn't matter how many regular season games he misses.
 

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