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Carl the Cuck Slayer. That is a great name.

Politics were pretty cordial (relatively speaking) until about the Iraq War started. Things really started to go badly in 2010. Off the rails starting spring 2016. It has been downhill in general since the Cold War Consensus broke down around the mid-90s.

Anecdotally speaking as someone who was a hard-core Republican until around 2010. I don't have studies to back that up. I'm sure many would agree though.
Idk who Carl is, Owen shoyer looks like my best friends brother and he's pretty good.

As far as divisiveness, the fairness doctrine was revoked in 87, and since then polarization of left and right has jumped from 4% to 20% voting consistent with either party.

I'm impressed by this video by the overall message, which is more towards the end, but van does incredible things like diffusing distracting comments and appealing to character to let him get his points out and to deflect and control.

He won this debate because no one felt like a loser and unity was found even though there were disagreements. The main take away is there's very little that we actually disagree on, and things like building a bridge has somehow become partisan issues.
 
We need to get past race and women issues because in reality they mean nothing than a weapon to attack others for their own thoughts. How do we handle this is a story waiting to happen. I am sick and tired of shit news thrown at my face because I decided to be my own person. I should not have to pick any side to say hi to a person. I should not have to worry if my girl I am dated is easily offended. If we go deep into politics. Then guess what ask the left what the base plan is other than that.

I hate to say it but the left is cooked out as we saw a government helped system is not in favor here. it kills me to say this but I want someone who will at this time keep our country close. I do not want to live in a world where we are told we can be a robot slave lord because the left said we can be that. I want a fucking better job and not rely on the Government I have have and until I waive the white flag I never will.

If we are talking business or true policy here then forgive my post and dislike it. Coming from a man who has seen hardship get only worse under the identity politics the left was forcing us. I know again and I admit I am going into basic political terms. I am tired of it and your gender should never be political to begin with. The world is filled with assholes and everyone shits on each other... That is modern Politics my friends as seen by idiots.
Intersectionality and race baiting is a tactic, and it's collapsing the left upon itself and pushing moderates to.. whatever the left is not.

At some point you have to ask, how are democrats going to get the white vote back? Because there certainly have been a good amount of attacks on white people recently and it pushed them away.

They think they can out demographic people and that white votes don't matter, and if you just make it xxx v white males, xxx will win because minorities are growing at larger rates than whites.. but that's not how it works, people can vote and think for themselves and look past race, or sexual preference, or gender.. this isn't a winning platform and more importantly, it's fucking with the well being of our country.

The world should not solely be seen through dicks v vaginas or white v black v Hispanic v straight v gay v trans lens. That's an incredibly divisive lens.

Identity politics are fucking. Bull. Shit.

Why earn a vote when it's simply easier to paint the right as racist and watch people collectively go nuts and put on a blue tie or skirt? Oh, because it makes everyone hate each other and ruins the country. That's why. Good job on almost getting into office though.

"Oh, Poor white people!" by symone sanders upon viewing a white man getting beaten and his car stolen..

"My job is to shut other white people up" -white woman holding democratic position.

"We don't need to hear from white people" symone "the face of identity politics" sanders.
 
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Intersectionality and race baiting is a tactic, and it's collapsing the left upon itself and pushing moderates to.. whatever the left is not.

At some point you have to ask, how are democrats going to get the white vote back? Because there certainly have been a good amount of attacks on white people recently and it pushed them away.

They think they can out demographic people and that white votes don't matter, and if you just make it xxx v white males, xxx will win because minorities are growing at larger rates than whites.. but that's not how it works, people can vote and think for themselves and look past race, or sexual preference, or gender.. this isn't a winning platform and more importantly, it's fucking with the well being of our country.

The world should not solely be seen through dicks v vaginas or white v black v Hispanic v straight v gay v trans lens. That's an incredibly divisive lens.

Identity politics are fucking. Bull. Shit.

I agree and the fight they want to cover our eyes are with countries like Russia and even China is stepping back on Identity politics. They know as a socialist... even worse country knows that. Gender equality makes a country run. The problem is women have it already but they want more power and that is brought by the left. This is why I am glad Trump is in office. They will never go away... they are the new bed bugs. It is hard to find a blue collar women who wants sex and love and works. Because that is what us men want as well.

I seen it here women with the signs and their stupid mindset. Like roaches they want to never die and be seen. We get it and the women do have many right in some cases more than men. I feel the entitled women will never stop till they feel men are wore. We have equal rights for all people in the US. The Democates created this make no mistake.
 
@gourimoko ,@The Human Q-Tip , @AZ_ and @Randolphkeys are the only posters here capable of trolling me.
@The Oi tries but he is more of a resentful cheerleader at this point

Also I would like to.point out that bots do not have a race really. You could potentially say that a bot is the same race as the programmer, but that is not really fair for one with a neuronet processing capability as Tornbot who can make his own limited decisions
 
Also I would like to.point out that bots do not have a race really. You could potentially say that a bot is the same race as the programmer, but that is not really fair for one with a neuronet processing capability as Tornbot who can make his own limited decisions

You are speaking on half for a computer. How does that make you feel?
 
I agree and the fight they want to cover our eyes are with countries like Russia and even China is stepping back on Identity politics. They know as a socialist... even worse country knows that. Gender equality makes a country run. The problem is women have it already but they want more power and that is brought by the left. This is why I am glad Trump is in office. They will never go away... they are the new bed bugs. It is hard to find a blue collar women who wants sex and love and works. Because that is what us men want as well.

I seen it here women with the signs and their stupid mindset. Like roaches they want to never die and be seen. We get it and the women do have many right in some cases more than men. I feel the entitled women will never stop till they feel men are wore. We have equal rights for all people in the US. The Democates created this make no mistake.
What girls literally just expect, and feel entitled to, is disgusting. Just because they have a vagina. But they scream bloody hell on Monday because they're the victims.


It's only the people's fault to an extent. We are getting rammed in the fucking ass with divisive propaganda being promulgated by the media.

There's..infinitely more outrage here than in Muslim countries where honor killings and actual rape culture exists. There is no mention of the Saudi way of life on the tips of feminists tongues.

Put things into perspective and it's just silliness. Women are in college more than men, up to a certain age get paid more than men. 1/5 view themselves as feminists, a larger number want equal rights as men. This means feminism says one thing and does another, people want equal rights and aren't identifying as feminists.

If a girl hits me, it's laughed off. If I hit a girl, well, Chris Brown. Feminism doesn't fight for actual equality,they fight for women. The proof is.. frankly as simple as on the name, they're not called "equalists" they're called "feminists". Ok, you have your equality and just as much opportunity. Fight for a SINGLE male issue if you're sincerely for equality (you're not).

Pro life organizations couldn't even sponsor the women's march.. the country, and women, are split basically even on pro life and pro choice. "If you don't think like me, you're not welcome. You can voice your opinion, as long as its the same as mine".

I could go on, but I've said alot on it in other places.
 
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You are speaking on half for a computer. How does that make you feel?

I feel they have rights too. So, I feel good.

Do you feel it marginalizes you?
 
What girls literally just expect, and feel entitled to, is disgusting. Just because they have a vagina. But they scream bloody hell on Monday because they're the victims.


It's only the people's fault to an extent. We are getting rammed in the fucking ass with divisive propaganda being promulgated by the media.

There's..infinitely more outrage here than in Muslim countries where honor killings and actual rape culture exists.

Put things into perspective and it's just silliness. Women are in college more than men, up to a certain age get paid more than men. 1/5 view themselves as feminists, a larger number want equal rights as men. This means feminism says one thing and does another.

If a girl hits me, it's laughed off. If I hit a girl, well, Chris Brown. Feminism doesn't fight for actual equality,they fight for women. The proof is.. frankly as simple as on the name, they're not called "equalists" they're called "feminists". Ok, you have your equality and just as much opportunity. Fight for a SINGLE male issue if you're sincerely for equality (you're not).

Pro life organizations couldn't even sponsor the women's march.. the country, and women, are split basically even on pro life and pro choice. "If you don't think like me, you're not welcome. You can voice your opinion, as long as its the same as mine".

I could go on, but I've said alot on it in other places.

The bold font is what they ignore. I mean what can they want. That is my base on their shit as it piles to more shit than will one day be looked at as shit. You made a great post and i am getting to tired to keep up but what I get is... They want to rule men here in the USA No way I meet civil women of all races where I live and no one never gave me a problem. This is a ghost machine left bullshit. They want to try to make angels and the majority. Well vote fraud "Hillary" did occur in the popular vote... How many legs before they can hide their tale again..
 
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I won't quote you, I know you're trying to sleep. But Hillary fucking "black =super predator, slut shame any woman who dare talk about her husband raping them, hot sauce in my bag and my husband caused a massive hit to the black community from which they're still trying to recover" Clinton is the face of anti racism and pro women's rights.

Fucking stop. Wake up.
 
I won't quote you, I know you're trying to sleep. But Hillary fucking "black =super predator, slut shame any woman who dare talk about her husband raping them, hot sauce in my bag and my husband caused a massive hit to the black community from which they're still trying to recover" Clinton is the face of anti racism and pro women's rights.

Fucking stop. Wake up.

I will let you be with you thought but race issues is and always should be a human problem that is not government related. This is some issues we as humans have to deal with. Honestly this is why I hate the ex-stream left because they push race issues. The conservative pushes it away. See the difference? The left wants blacks and immigrants on their side because they can control them.
 
I will let you be with you thought but race issues is and always should be a human problem that is not government related. This is some issues we as humans have to deal with. Honestly this is why I hate the ex-stream left because they push race issues. The conservative pushes it away. See the difference? The left wants blacks and immigrants in their side because they can control them.
Agree entirely my dude.
 
Intersectionality and race baiting is a tactic, and it's collapsing the left upon itself and pushing moderates to.. whatever the left is not.

At some point you have to ask, how are democrats going to get the white vote back? Because there certainly have been a good amount of attacks on white people recently and it pushed them away.

They think they can out demographic people and that white votes don't matter, and if you just make it xxx v white males, xxx will win because minorities are growing at larger rates than whites.. but that's not how it works, people can vote and think for themselves and look past race, or sexual preference, or gender.. this isn't a winning platform and more importantly, it's fucking with the well being of our country.

The world should not solely be seen through dicks v vaginas or white v black v Hispanic v straight v gay v trans lens. That's an incredibly divisive lens.

Identity politics are fucking. Bull. Shit.

Why earn a vote when it's simply easier to paint the right as racist and watch people collectively go nuts and put on a blue tie or skirt? Oh, because it makes everyone hate each other and ruins the country. That's why. Good job on almost getting into office though.

"Oh, Poor white people!" by symone sanders upon viewing a white man getting beaten and his car stolen..

"My job is to shut other white people up" -white woman holding democratic position.

"We don't need to hear from white people" symone "the face of identity politics" sanders.

Alight, this is, whatever. It is painted as a partisan issue, or "ugh, they always bring race in to this!" Identity politics. Yes, parties use both to their advantage but at its core it goes far deeper and there is an issue here.

Part of the problem is people are not truly communicating about these issues. They talk past each other. No one understands each other. No one has empathy. Put yourself into someone else's shoes. How would you feel otherwise.

Unless you are from a traditionally marginalized minority, or a woman, how can truly know where they are coming from? One can hand-wave it as irrelevant because, if you aren't them it is irrelevant. But, for many years these people have been treated as less than a full citizen and denied the very rights white males take for granted. Do you really think that there is no basis for people of color, women and LGBT people to be annoyed at how things have operated in this country over the past 50 years? It is far from not important. Let's break it down. Within living memory people of a certain color have been:

  • Physically separated from whites
  • Prohibited from voting via various means
  • Prohibited from marrying white people
  • Denied basic services due to skin color
  • Victims of both illegal and legal violence
Women didn't have the vote until 1920 and are still being told what they can and cannot do with their bodies. If you were treated in this manner, how would you feel? Particularly as it is 2017 and we are still discussing these same things as if they are a matter for debate.

On the other hand:
  • White males are being demonized on the spot for being white
  • Men in general are falling behind thanks to misguided educational efforts started in the early 80s to even the playing field
Yeah, being dismissed and demonized just because of your skin color and gender sucks. And since about, oh, 2000, this has been the case for white males. It is incredibly frustrating to be told you do not count over something you can't control. It isn't fair. But at least no one is enshrining that bias through legislation.

So, in sum, it appears people are racist, sexist, homophobic assholes. Should we care if people are treated like shit? In all cases yes. Does it make any logical sense to bitch about being treated unfairly due to skin color and gender while at the same time dismissing skin color and gender discrimination as problems? No.
 
Alight, this is, whatever. It is painted as a partisan issue, or "ugh, they always bring race in to this!" Identity politics. Yes, parties use both to their advantage but at its core it goes far deeper and there is an issue here.

Part of the problem is people are not truly communicating about these issues. They talk past each other. No one understands each other. No one has empathy. Put yourself into someone else's shoes. How would you feel otherwise.

Unless you are from a traditionally marginalized minority, or a woman, how can truly know where they are coming from? One can hand-wave it as irrelevant because, if you aren't them it is irrelevant. But, for many years these people have been treated as less than a full citizen and denied the very rights white males take for granted. Do you really think that there is no basis for people of color, women and LGBT people to be annoyed at how things have operated in this country over the past 50 years? It is far from not important. Let's break it down. Within living memory people of a certain color have been:

  • Physically separated from whites
  • Prohibited from voting via various means
  • Prohibited from marrying white people
  • Denied basic services due to skin color
  • Victims of both illegal and legal violence
Women didn't have the vote until 1920 and are still being told what they can and cannot do with their bodies. If you were treated in this manner, how would you feel? Particularly as it is 2017 and we are still discussing these same things as if they are a matter for debate.

On the other hand:
  • White males are being demonized on the spot for being white
  • Men in general are falling behind thanks to misguided educational efforts started in the early 80s to even the playing field
Yeah, being dismissed and demonized just because of your skin color and gender sucks. And since about, oh, 2000, this has been the case for white males. It is incredibly frustrating to be told you do not count over something you can't control. It isn't fair. But at least no one is enshrining that bias through legislation.

So, in sum, it appears people are racist, sexist, homophobic assholes. Should we care if people are treated like shit? In all cases yes. Does it make any logical sense to bitch about being treated unfairly due to skin color and gender while at the same time dismissing skin color and gender discrimination as problems? No.
I can know because I speak with them, and can read their opinions as whatever demographic authority they appeal as, even though as they are simply one person of this demographic, it's hard to say they are the authority on the matter.

Don Cheadle is not Mystikal. Lindsay Lohan is not Taylor Swift. I'll do you better: research Lil Wayne's political views and opinions on racism. Or Morgan Freeman. To limit someone's views to the color of their skin or their genitals, is ironically, racist as Fuck and sexist as Fuck.

Telling someone what they can and cannot talk about simply because of their skin or gender is also, racist and sexist as fuck.

I am not the authority on all white males existence, I'm one dude who's seen what I've seen and can study the world around me, just like anyone else

After reading their thoughts, you can compare it to actual data and statistics and decide what is fair and unfair, maybe. Yes there are high profile rates. You can argue they are deserved in some cases. Do I think black people have it as easy as white people? No. I also don't think it's as simple as saying all black people are worse off than all white people. There are black members of this site much better off than most white members. There are difficulties both races and both genders face. We all have opportunity too.

Today is not the the battle of women's suffrage. Slavery is not in existence, the civil rights movement has happened and single motherhood among the black community has increased and the graduation of high school rate is pretty shit. Is the country more racist now than it was in 1960?

It is scary to tell people "but only x years ago, this was life". Yes, it was, and acts have been put into place to even those things (I also had nothing to do with past atrocities, so please put down the pitchfork. I don't live in that world, never have, very triggered millennials haven't either, so they should cool their tits w their pussyhats). Some of them racist,like affirmative action or Harvard's strategies on admittance: an Asian person needs to score 300 higher on sats to be considered equal to a black person.

That's not equality.

If we look back on history, and keep writing in things because history was hard for other genders or races, and things have been evened out, then you're over compensating because things.. have been evened out already.

I was barely conscious in 2000, so my life experience is NOT built upon some age where I was superior. It's built on today, where there are protected groups specifically organized to fight for their groups rights.. except for white males. Wheredoes this ultimately leave the balance if my group is the only one not protected? I get laughed at for voicing opinion on racist, sexist shit from mtv, CNN etc against white males that is egregious and unwarranted. A professor tweeting about white genocide and no one bats an eye.

"Oh poor black people. We don't need to hear from black people. My job is to shut black people up and stop them from interrupting "

"All I want for Xmas is a black genocide". How funny is my satire?

A woman can, and has, chopped a man's dick off and put it in a garbage disposal and it was laughed about by the country. Can you imagine the outrage if a guy cut off his wife's vagina? There'd be riots and the man wouldn't live to see the next day. But I'm deplorable if I don't pay for a woman's meal (even though they make as much money as me..you know how ridiculous it is for a 19 year old guy to buy dinner for a stripper? ...on so many levels?) or do anything to fight back if a woman is violently attacking me.

This isn't 1955 white v black, black person was president of the country until last week, white women have more power than any other demo in the WORLD and can take away and infringe upon my right to my wages for 18 years, because it's her body her choice.

If things are different, then you have to adjust the volume and stop watching some of the channels.

Is the black community ok? No. Why, and what is the cause? What can we do to help? Are women ok? Yea, they probably are ok.

Why don't we stop divisive identity politics and bring the good of the right and the good of the left together in unison rather than competition? Why is there more racial division today, per any race polled, than the was 8 years ago? What happened to the message of unity? Identity politics and constant media coverage of hands up don't shoot etc.

Why don't we just decide shit on policy rather than demagoguery from both sides and all demographics? Stop making everyone in the world that isn't like you evil, and just look at facts and decide the best thing to do about each topic?
 
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We need to get past race and women issues because in reality they mean nothing than a weapon to attack others for their own thoughts.

Snarly, your post is an example as to why these folks tend to vote liberal.

As to why Republicans aren't very likely to win the popular vote moving forward.

If my civil rights mean nothing to you, then how can we form a coalition? Obviously, if this is the case, then we are political opposed on the most important matters pertaining to my life, if anything.

It's funny to hear people talk about business and fiscal policy in a broad sense as if American macroeconomics supersedes one's personal interests in their civil/human rights.
 
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