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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Utah Jazz forward Gordon Hayward will visit the Charlotte Hornets next week, the Observer has learned. Story to follow.</p>&mdash; Rick Bonnell (@rick_bonnell) <a href="https://twitter.com/rick_bonnell/statuses/485091935455965187">July 4, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Utah Jazz forward Gordon Hayward will visit the Charlotte Hornets next week, the Observer has learned. Story to follow.</p>— Rick Bonnell (@rick_bonnell) <a href="https://twitter.com/rick_bonnell/statuses/485091935455965187">July 4, 2014</a></blockquote>
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That'd be a great pick up for Charlotte. Also, I still find myself calling them the Bobcats :chuckles:
 
Not if you're using PPG as your sole metric for determining value.

Thankfully teams don't do that. Low level analysis.
Any metric that claims Gordon Hayward's worth a max contract should be permanently erased from the interwebs.
 
I still kinda want you, Gordon
 
Cavs give him the max it will be like orlando paying rashard lewis all that money. but, hayward is still a good player. When you are a small market you have to overpay.
 
My sources say. Gordon Hayward will go to the Miami Hornets... I mean the Cleveland Clippers. Sources tell me he will get close to the max from the Utah Nuggets. Says a source with no knowledge.
 
Cavs give him the max it will be like orlando paying rashard lewis all that money. but, hayward is still a good player. When you are a small market you have to overpay.
The problem most people have with paying Gordon Hayward isn't that he's not worth the max -- it's that he's not even remotely close to being worth the max. I'm fine with overpaying by a notch (as we already did with Kyrie), but a slightly above average talent like Hayward is better off acquired for a handful of seasons via trade than by vastly overpaying for him to play here a little longer. There are far more above average players than elite players and there's a valid reason why they're not all being paid max contracts. A max contract player should be able to take over in a pinch when the team's lead dog goes down and also help lead his team to wins in the playoffs. I don't see Hayward doing much of either.

His shooting % goes down the more he shoots, which has happened to him every season. His sweet spot seems to be ~10 FGA per game, which is good for ~13-14 ppg. He's a guy who plays well off the bench and can start in a roleplayer capacity. We're not talking Bosh or Wade here. Utah gave him the reigns last season and while his shots went up, his TS% wilted. What do you think is going to happen in the playoffs when teams gameplan for him? We already have a sample of his playoffs vanishing act and it's not pretty.

The one good aspect about Hayward is that he's the type of player who would fit nicely as a roleplayer in Blatt's pass oriented offense. He has the height and passing skills Blatt covets. Blatt might even get more out of Hayward than Utah did, but you don't go around handing out max contracts to roleplayers based on wild assumptions.

If the Cavs feel that they need a certain type of player, then try to package players/picks from the list of players they deem expendable. That's how Ferry landed Mo Williams. He gave up Joe Smith and Amon Ones -- a quality move. Throwing max contracts at roleplayers isn't quality -- it's a cop out. Especially in the Cleveland market, where a GM needs to be much more clever than that.
 
Is there any way they can give Hayward more than the max?
 
Miss out on LeBron, fall back to Hayward. MIss out on Hayward, no idea what then. Cry?
 
Miss out on LeBron, fall back to Hayward. MIss out on Hayward, no idea what then. Cry?

Parsons?

one year deal for deng?

grab AK 47 for a year

Marvin Williams or Trevor Ariza?

If Lebron doesnt come to Cleveland its best to get a guy who can play the position but can potentially lose alot of minutes to Wiggins/Karasev
 
David Locke

Remember one thing. Whether it is Cleveland, Charlotte, Phoenix or Dallas the Utah Jazz will match any offer sheet Gordon Hayward signs

Locke's pretty reliable normally (of course in these cases you never know whether the team feeds them BS to scare off other suitors). he's one of their beat writers
 
Miss out on LeBron, fall back to Hayward. MIss out on Hayward, no idea what then. Cry?

Sign a veteran like Caron Butler or Marvin Williams to backup Wiggins, and start looking into trade scenarios that get us a starting center.
 
Locke's pretty reliable normally (of course in these cases you never know whether the team feeds them BS to scare off other suitors). he's one of their beat writers

But he could also be putting this out there on behalf of Utah in the hopes that no one will offer Hayward a max contract, which would make his only long-term fallback option the much cheaper contract the Jazz offered him.
 
Parsons?

one year deal for deng?

grab AK 47 for a year

Marvin Williams or Trevor Ariza?

If Lebron doesnt come to Cleveland its best to get a guy who can play the position but can potentially lose alot of minutes to Wiggins/Karasev

Well I want good players so Marvin Williams is out.

Trevor Ariza makes some sense, but I've expressed my concerns about "Contract Year" before.

Would love Parsons, but unless they land Melo he's staying in Houston, just like Hayward will stay in Utah.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Gordon Hayward has agreed to an offer sheet with the Charlotte Hornets, the Observer has learned.</p>&mdash; Rick Bonnell (@rick_bonnell) <a href="https://twitter.com/rick_bonnell/statuses/486729927933165568">July 9, 2014</a></blockquote>
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