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Jamario Moon (Heat decline offer)

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WeinerSoBig said:
I still doesn't add up. At 5:50pm Boobiefor3 said he just golfed with DF, but then later said it was around 3:30pm. So the big question is, did Ferry know that Miami declined at 3:30pm. I guess I'll be a believer if Moon is introduced on Monday at a golf outing.
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9 holes. 2 hours. Very possible. Not saying i'm 100%, but I think if W&G believes him to an extent then so do I. He hasn't let us down yet.
 
tedginnjr said:
It's kind of crazy how similar Moon is to Ariza...

Size: Moon 6-8, 200... Ariza 6-8, 210
MPG: 25.9, 24.4
PPG: 7.2, 8.9
RPG: 4.6, 4.3
APG: 1.2, 1.8
TOPG: .54, 1.06
BPG: .75, .29
SPG: 1.08, 1.67
FG%: .468, .460
3PFG%: .355, .319
FT%: .850, .710

Every stat is almost identical, with Moon a little better shooter overall, Ariza maybe a little better scorer and at creating. Obviously age is a big difference, with Ariza being 24 compared to Moon at 29. But for half the price and a much smaller overall money commitment, Moon was a smart and underrated move by Ferry after missing out on Ariza. And I think I'd actually prefer Parker and Moon to just Ariza.
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I agree. I posted these before and they show you Moon and Ariza aren't far apart, at least when it comes to the last year's regular season. Fact is Ariza was a fairly mediocre role player last season, but his big postseason is what really got him paid this offseason.

Age is also a factor. In my opinion though, I think too many people (even NBA GM's) just assume that if a guy is a successful role player he will only get better and eventually evolve into more than that. In reality, this doesn't happen often and sometimes leads to big failures. Sometimes guys are just best suited for the supporting roles they were asked to play. Especially in the triangle offense next to Kobe and Pau. Remember Devean George in an Ariza-like role with Kobe and Shaq?

I'd rather commit to a guy like Moon for 2 years, then Ariza for 5.


OU Bobcatz said:
Everyone seems to think that Ferry is done making moves. I don't. Shaq was a biggie, but I have a feeling that a big surprise is due between now and September. That stretch forward that everyone seems to want... Ferry will pull off something big to get him. I'm thinking a #1, Hickson, Gibson and parts for someone like David West.

The fact is, Ferry is on borrowed time. He knows that he must field the best team possible to please the King. As currently constructed, this Cavaliers team is not the most talented in the NBA. They are certainly contenders, but this team was last year as well.

David West? Carlos Boozer? Amare Stoudamire? David Lee? Something is about to happen. I can feel it in my bones.
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I'm torn on this. West is the name I can't get by. New Orleans has pretty well known financial issues and I'm not sure trading Peja or Chandler is going to happen. West would be a nice fit here for the Cavs. His contract is not anything crazy, kind of similar to Mo's, and it probably only has 2 years left on it as the 3rd year is a player option for $7.5 million.

New Orleans needs to do something. They tried to move Chandler here and then again for Ben Wallace to Phoenix. Didn't happen. No one is taking Peja at this point, and the Hornets aren't trading CP3.

The Hornets have almost $50 million tied up in Chandler, Peja, CP3, and West. Add in Mo Pete and Posey adds another $12 million or so. Will there come a time when the Hornets determine that moving Peja or Chandler is unlikely? I'm not sure.

West is a solid value, but they are going to have better luck moving West + Posey/Peterson then they are Peja or Chandler.

I still think they're probably going to make one more run at things this year and see how things start. However, if they get off to a slow start, West could be put on the block.
 
This Moon signing is a hey good one. I like Jamario's game. But most of all, I think we have pieces now to move in a trade to acquire a stretch 4. I mean a trade of a #1, D. West, JJ Hickson, and a filler could realy bring back some talent. If that happened we'd have two very capable players to fill the role lost by Delonte. I don't want to trade West but it may be necessary in requiring that stretch 4 we need so badly.
 
Bill Walton said:
This Moon signing is a hey good one. I like Jamario's game. But most of all, I think we have pieces now to move in a trade to acquire a stretch 4. I mean a trade of a #1, D. West, JJ Hickson, and a filler could realy bring back some talent. If that happened we'd have two very capable players to fill the role lost by Delonte. I don't want to trade West but it may be necessary in requiring that stretch 4 we need so badly.
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Any trade sending away Delonte means we then need a backup PG... I think we are likely done untill at least the trade deadline.
 
Jigo_oi said:
Back on topic...Does this guy essentially get all of the minutes Sasha and Wally played last year or is he going to be worked in for some mismatch line-ups as well?
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I'm thinking that if at the beggining of the season (where we are more likely to face waker opponents), Moon would just get all of Wally's Minutes and Gibson getting Sasha's. This will give Gibson a chance to prove himself as a rotational player.

As the season goes on, I could see Moon's minutes increasing (at the expense of Gibson) as we face tougher teams later in the season that have more talent/length that expose Gibson's size. Good question, it will be interesting to see how it works out.
 
boobiefor3 said:
The only reason i brought up the story was to verify that miami would not match the cavs offer. I will let it go but other posters have been mocking me the whole time so i thought i could present some information that would convince you guys i am not making this up.

My main reason for trying to convince u guys my story is true is because i don't want to come on this site and everyone disregard my comments because you guys think i am full of bullshit.

To answer ACDC's q's

Ferry is a member of shaker cc- true

Ferry lives 5 min from shaker cc- false. he actually lives like 1 min away. He lives off of courtland and northpark/southpark i am not sure

Ferry is a constant golfer- not sure. i never said he was a constant golfer i said he goes to shaker a decent amount to play and go to his daughters swimmeats

He's this revealing to any fan who golfs with him- not sure but he is pretty close with my uncle and he answered the questions that i asked
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Just went through your posts...haven't seen a lie yet.
 
I'll believe ya boobiefor3..I was skeptical last night but having had a sexual encounter with Megan Fox last night I see where you're coming from.
 
brianpeppers said:
orlando is still better.
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From your incredibly insightful post, it's extremely difficult for me to decipher which Orlando you're referring to....and since you're post reeks of gayness, I'm guessing Orlando Bloom.
 
cdt said:
I'll believe ya boobiefor3..I was skeptical last night but having had a sexual encounter with Megan Fox last night I see where you're coming from.
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Did you get to suck on Megan Fox's thumb? :chuckles:
 
cdt said:
I'll believe ya boobiefor3..I was skeptical last night but having had a sexual encounter with Megan Fox last night I see where you're coming from.
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I don't think this is the thread to be telling us about your wet dreams man.
 
Not that he is UNTRADEABLE, but the Cavs better get something real special in return for Delonte West if they move him. Considering his age, his shooting, his defense, what he has already been able to do in the league and the fact that he still has an uside makes me not want to move him. He is only going o get better and he can fill several roles for the Cavs,

I do not want to trade Delonte unless it returns someone like Bosh and Bosh agreeing to a long-term deal is a requirement of the trade.
 
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