Jason Lloyd: Major Roster Shakeup in Next 3 Weeks

[kidduck]

FWIW, The Bullshit Whisperer tweets the thought that the Cavs will have difficulty moving any of their players in a trade before the deadline.

 

[Triumph36]

I'm surprised KCP or Avery Bradley haven't come up as potential targets in a Waiters swap.

Kyrie needs a floor spacing, defensive oriented guard as his backcourt mate. I think it'd be a good pairing. Go after something similar to what Portland has with Lillard and Wesley Matthews.

wesley matthews is waaaaay better than both of those players, though.

 

[Cashius X]

wesley matthews is waaaaay better than both of those players, though.

Avery and KCP are both still young. Wesley Matthews didn't always look tis good. I still remember his days in Utah playing with D-Will.

My point is KCP and Bradley are both 3&D players now who project to become pretty good NBA players. Wouldn't be the worst return in a possible Dion trade.

 

[PlzLetMeRegistr]

Avery and KCP are both still young. Wesley Matthews didn't always look tis good. I still remember his days in Utah playing with D-Will.

My point is KCP and Bradley are both 3&D players now who project to become pretty good NBA players. Wouldn't be the worst return in a possible Dion trade.

The Celtics would never trade Avery Bradley for Dion, though.

 

[Triumph36]

Avery and KCP are both still young. Wesley Matthews didn't always look tis good. I still remember his days in Utah playing with D-Will.

My point is KCP and Bradley are both 3&D players now who project to become pretty good NBA players. Wouldn't be the worst return in a possible Dion trade.

right, but he was still really good in utah. that's why his free agency was such a story - undrafted fa surprises everyone, leaving utah to determine whether or not he was legit after just one season. portland took a calculated risk and it paid off handsomely. bradley has only played 1 season less than matthews and he's still terribly inconsistent - he isn't just some rookie. kcp has looked bad thus far, though yes, he is still young.

trading what is probably your best young asset for an underwhelming 4th year player and vastly underwhelming rookie? eh. if we knew either would be as good as wes matthews is in a year or two, sure, of course i'd do it. but bradley has been around and still hasn't done much, and we're already dealing with one underperforming rookie as it is.

i don't know. it's seemingly inevitable that dion is dealt, so i guess we're gonna find out his value sooner rather than later.

 

[theSTEREO.]

Sorry Los...

Evan Turner is ball dominant and is best suited for an offense where he can play as the primary ball handler. Just like Dion.

But without Dion's first step or Dion's range.

He truly is a worst fit for Irving than Dion is.

Not gonna hunt through thousands of tweets, but someone yesterday was saying that the interest in Evans is so low, that Philly may not even be able to trade him. Why? Because the feeling is Philly is so low on Turner that they may not even offer the QO to him, and he will be an unrestricted FA this summer.

He will be cheap to whoever wants him, or maybe somebody dumb will overpay. Either way, he is gettable without giving up a single asset, but why would you want him anyway?

I'm done with this team if they trade for Evan Turner.

 

[Nathan S]

The good thing about guys like KCP and Porter is that you know they'll at least be above-average defenders. If they can put it together on offense too then they're immediately valuable pieces. It would certainly be a good time to buy low on them if they're available...

 

[johnny]

I'm imagining this team with a good off-ball player replacing Waiters and I don't see it turning out much better. Off-ball players require a functioning offense to be effective, as we're seeing with Deng. This team needs a real head coach and/or a real PG.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

FWIW, The Bullshit Whisperer tweets the thought that the Cavs will have difficulty moving any of their players in a trade before the deadline.

He should have kept that thought to himself, or at least thought it through better.

If the Cavs wanted to move AV, or Kyrie, they could do so with no difficulty. None of our other players have prohibitive salaries, which is usually the thing that makes someone untradeable. Otherwise, it all depends on what we're asking in return. Players can also be moved if packaged, if we take on a bad salary in exchange, or if we include some draft considerations in the deal. Saying we'd have difficulty moving any of our players is a rather massive overstatement.

 

[staycoolbruh]

If we had Bradley Beal instead of Waiters, this team would be in the 8th seed right now? I don't think so.

 

[AMC]

FWIW, The Bullshit Whisperer tweets the thought that the Cavs will have difficulty moving any of their players in a trade before the deadline.

That's The Bullshit Whisperer's opinion. I wouldn't put much accuracy into that; we have plenty of assets/players with value.

 

[Cavalierfan]

The problem we're going to face is: lack of realistic buyers.

The NBA has basically 6 tiers.

Contenders: Heat, Pacers, SA and OKC
Solid Playoff teams with no realistic chance of a title: Portland, LAC, Houston, GSW
Reluctant playoff teams ("We can/will probably make the playoffs as currently constructed, but we sure as hell aren't trading future assets"): Atlanta, Chicago, Toronto, Phoenix
Fringe playoff teams with absolutely nothing to offer: NYK, Brooklyn
Fringe playoff teams that aren't mortgaging the future to get swept: Charlotte, Memphis, Dallas, Detroit, Minnesota
Openly tanking (or should be): Boston, Philly, Orlando, Milwaukee, New Orleans, Lakers, Utah, Sacto

Which one of those teams is going to trade anything of value to us for 3 months of Luol Deng? Or give up a first round pick for Dion Waiters. Or absorb the $20M+ left on Jack's contract? The only guy I could see the top couple tier teams taking would be Andy, and even then you're getting a pick in the late 20's at best. Otherwise, we're likely just swapping trash with other non-contenders.

Our best chance for a legit trade is to help a team get under the luxury tax somehow. And that wouldn't even involve us shaking up our roster as much as adding more trash to it. I think the next month is going to be very interesting.

 

[elcheato]

We'd like to think we have assets, but really, how valuable are Waiters, TT, & Bennett (our 3 young pieces that could have value)? It's not as if other teams aren't seeing the results this team is netting, and the obvious flaws with all of them.

 

[Snarly]

We'd like to think we have assets, but really, how valuable are Waiters, TT, & Bennett (our 3 young pieces that could have value)? It's not as if other teams aren't seeing the results this team is netting, and the obvious flaws with all of them.

I see T.T having value and I see teams willing to gamble on Dion. Some coaches like Offensive ball handlers and some teams will see and deal with Dions attitude and If he goes to a team ala Harden where he could have the keys to the car I am sure we could get good value for him. I could see Philly, MIl, Even the Lakers as a spot for him. the problem Is you would have to sell. There are not many players to buy and the ones that are I do not think T.T and Dion alone even with a future first would do It.

 

[Futuredome]

I think Jack is traded, maybe Miles, but that is probably it.