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Cavs on open 3s (closest defender 4-6 feet away):

Mitchell: 30.8% on 3.3 3PA
Garland: 30.0% on 2.5 3PA
LeVert: 16.7% on 1.5 3PA
Niang: 16.7% on 1.5 3PA
Strus: 0% on 1.5 3PA

Cavs on wide open 3s (closest defender 6+ feet):
Mitchell: 14.3% on 1.8 3PA
Garland: 44.4% on 2.3 3PA
LeVert: 33.3% on 1.5 3PA
Niang: 0.0% on 1 3PA
Strus 33.3% on 1.5 3PA
Mobley 50% on 1.5 3PA

Chunk it all up and what do you get?

A team shooting 21.9% on 12.6 open 3 point attempts per game

A team shooting 31.4% on 13.4 wide open 3 point attempts per game

Make no mistake, the players are shooting terribly
 
Cavs on open 3s (closest defender 4-6 feet away):

Mitchell: 30.8% on 3.3 3PA
Garland: 30.0% on 2.5 3PA
LeVert: 16.7% on 1.5 3PA
Niang: 16.7% on 1.5 3PA
Strus: 0% on 1.5 3PA

Cavs on wide open 3s (closest defender 6+ feet):
Mitchell: 14.3% on 1.8 3PA
Garland: 44.4% on 2.3 3PA
LeVert: 33.3% on 1.5 3PA
Niang: 0.0% on 1 3PA
Strus 33.3% on 1.5 3PA
Mobley 50% on 1.5 3PA

Chunk it all up and what do you get?

A team shooting 21.9% on 12.6 open 3 point attempts per game

A team shooting 31.4% on 13.4 wide open 3 point attempts per game

Make no mistake, the players are shooting terribly
Great post. This is a huge problem no matter how you slice and dice it... The boys MUST be better...
 
Cavs on open 3s (closest defender 4-6 feet away):

Mitchell: 30.8% on 3.3 3PA
Garland: 30.0% on 2.5 3PA
LeVert: 16.7% on 1.5 3PA
Niang: 16.7% on 1.5 3PA
Strus: 0% on 1.5 3PA

Cavs on wide open 3s (closest defender 6+ feet):
Mitchell: 14.3% on 1.8 3PA
Garland: 44.4% on 2.3 3PA
LeVert: 33.3% on 1.5 3PA
Niang: 0.0% on 1 3PA
Strus 33.3% on 1.5 3PA
Mobley 50% on 1.5 3PA

Chunk it all up and what do you get?

A team shooting 21.9% on 12.6 open 3 point attempts per game

A team shooting 31.4% on 13.4 wide open 3 point attempts per game

Make no mistake, the players are shooting terribly
 

INDEPENDENCE, Ohio — Donovan Mitchell grabbed a basketball, sat on a chair inside the practice facility and stared at the throng of reporters leaning in closely to hear every word.


After beginning Monday’s post-practice press conference discussing the team’s mindset heading into a pivotal Game 5 matchup with the Orlando Magic at home on Tuesday, he paused to fix the tiny microphone pinned to his wine-colored Cavs practice jersey.

“My mom says I have this same problem,” Mitchell said with a smile, alluding to him talking too quietly.



Mom knows best.



Following a booming start to these playoffs, taking a 2-0 series lead, not trailing at any point in those games and looking like a guy intent on changing his polarizing postseason reputation, Mitchell and the Cavs have been hushed by the upstart Magic.



This once-lopsided matchup is now a best-of-three series, with Orlando coming off back-to-back home victories by a combined 61 points.

If the Cavs are going to bounce back, avenge last April’s flameout and win their first playoff series without LeBron James in more than three decades, they need Mitchell to roar again.



“Both teams protected home court, so it’s not a series until somebody wins on somebody else’s floor,” Mitchell said Monday afternoon. “The past two games have been not what we wanted. But we have a chance to take care of business at home and that’s pretty much the only mindset.”



In the series opening win — after about a week off, which gave his bothersome left knee more time to heal — Mitchell erupted for a game-high 30 points on 11 of 21 shooting and 3 of 8 from 3-point range in 36 dominant minutes. It was a message-sending, tone-setting performance, the kind that made it seem like the old Mitchell was back.



He then followed it up with a 23-point-eight-rebound-four-assist effort that helped the Cavs take a commanding 2-0 series lead.



But Mitchell, like the Cavs, floundered in Orlando. He averaged just 15.5 points on 11 of 30 (36.6%) shooting and 2 of 10 (20%) from beyond the arc while committing eight turnovers against 13 assists — ugly numbers that have exhumed big-stage ghosts.

“It starts with me,” Mitchell reiterated Monday. “I just can’t take four shots in that half. Fourteen shots and 16 shots in consecutive games — right, wrong or indifferent — speaks to a level of aggression. I wasn’t that. I hold myself accountable for that. I’ll be better.”



Given an opportunity to use his knee as an excuse, especially after clearly reaggravating it early in Game 3 when stepping on Magic forward Paolo Banchero’s foot, Mitchell refused.



“I’m good,” he said. “I’m good.”



Time to leave the latest playoff demons in Orlando. Time to turn the page. There’s no other choice.



“If you carry something over, it can kill you for a month or a week or whatever,” Mitchell said. “In a playoff series, it could take you all out.”



Over the past few days, in the aftermath of two consecutive embarrassments, the Cavs have had the longtime playoff debate: Adjustments or execution?

I’ve made my comments about the adjustments,” Bickerstaff said. “The game comes down to execution and who plays better basketball. There’s 10 million ways to skin a cat, but if you execute your way better, you’re probably going to give yourself a chance to win. So that’s what our focus is. Our focus is on executing versus what’s in front of us. Learn from what happened before, improve on it, but just be the better executing team.”



The Cavs spent plenty of time breaking down film, identifying opponent weak points, understanding the Magic strategy at both ends and devising plans to attack. Monday’s session was about sharpening those intricate details.



The odds of a starting lineup change — similar to the one Orlando made following the first two games, moving the burlier Wendell Carter Jr. into that quintet for slender defensive ace Jonathan Isaac — are incredibly low. Who would even be swapped out? Who is playing well enough off the bench to get a bigger role?



Nonetheless, Bickerstaff mentioned Saturday that he could consider other tweaks — schematic or rotational. The strategic objective going into Game 5 is simple: rediscover a lost offensive identity.



As Mitchell said, it starts with him. The Cavs need more. He is their heartbeat. Their leading scorer. The guy capable of single-handedly resuscitating a flat-lining offense that is second worst in points, shooting percentage and overall rating in the postseason — a typically 3-point-heavy and dynamic unit that is taking the third-fewest attempts from long-range.

But the issues run deeper than just one guy. Or one specific area.



Point guard Darius Garland is averaging a pedestrian 12.0 points to go with 6.0 assists against 3.0 turnovers. Prized offseason pickup Max Strus is shooting just 38.5% from the field and 17.6% from 3-point range. Georges Niang, another member of Cleveland’s summer free agency haul, has yet to tally more than seven points in any of the four games. Rugged, defense-first swingman Isaac Okoro has been a non-factor. Second unit anchor Caris LeVert hasn’t looked like the Sixth Man of the Year candidate the Cavs claimed he was throughout the regular season, averaging 8.3 points in 25.0 minutes.



Any of those guys playing to their usual standard changes the offensive equation drastically.



“They’re obviously a really good defensive team, so us being able to sustain offensively and what we’re looking to get, I think that has been the biggest challenge. I think that’s clear,” Bickerstaff said. “It was going to be a tough series. I mean there’s no doubt about it. Two really good defensive teams makes for a slugfest and nothing was going to come easy because they don’t concede anything and our guys don’t concede anything. It’s been slower paced like we thought it would be, more of a grind out like we thought it would be. But it’s competitive and when you’re sitting here at Game 5 and it’s 2-2, got an opportunity to take care of homecourt again, that’s our goal.”

When asked about the feeling going into Tuesday’s night’s 8 p.m. tipoff, Mitchell said the team is “very confident.” There’s no belief that something has fundamentally changed in this series. There’s no concern of a proverbial momentum shift. There’s no fear that the non-stop trash talking and extracurriculars have distracted from the primary goal. Orlando doesn’t get bonus points for a pair of blowouts. The Cavs are leaning into their experience. They still think they have the edge — and an unquantifiable asset:



Homecourt advantage.



Cleveland went 26-15 at Rocket Mortgage FieldHouse during the regular season while Orlando was just 18-23, with its offense dipping about five points per 100 possessions, away from Kia Center,



The Magic, not the Cavs, are required to win at least once on the road.


“You give them credit. You give us credit. We did what we were supposed to do. So now it’s can we do it again on Tuesday?” Mitchell said. “We will. That’s where we’re at. Otherwise, we’re going home, and we don’t want that to happen. We’ve got to go out there and execute the way we have and continue to adjust.



“Handle business on Tuesday, and everything else will go from there.”
 
So you want to completely suck for the next 5 years and then hope we get some kind of luck in the lottery that develops into a star? Why?
LBJ was a miracle and then Cleveland completely lucked out with how we ended up with Kyrie and LBJ wanting to come back home...
This team was also near a two seed this year. It is not wild to think they cannot make a few moves this summer, hire a new coach and be even better next season... This series still is not over... lol
During that stretch of basketball before the All Star break, it felt like we were the 2nd best team in the East and could legitimately be in the Eastern Conference Finals; moreover the optimist in me felt that it would be a competitive series with Boston considering our recent history with them. By far the best I’d felt about the team, the bench, JBB for years.

Then, we had the reintroduction of DG and Evan which initially went ok since they were on minute restrictions; then the rotations shortened, the tempo slowed, more JA and Evan pairings simultaneously, more DG and Mitchell pairings simultaneously and last but not least, the injuries to Donovan, specifically the knee (which I still feel could have been lessened if he stayed away from the All Star Game and gotten treatment, especially since he stated it occurred in the Bulls’ game which was the last before the break)
 
During that stretch of basketball before the All Star break, it felt like we were the 2nd best team in the East and could legitimately be in the Eastern Conference Finals; moreover the optimist in me felt that it would be a competitive series with Boston considering our recent history with them. By far the best I’d felt about the team, the bench, JBB for years.

Then, we had the reintroduction of DG and Evan which initially went ok since they were on minute restrictions; then the rotations shortened, the tempo slowed, more JA and Evan pairings simultaneously, more DG and Mitchell pairings simultaneously and last but not least, the injuries to Donovan, specifically the knee (which I still feel could have been lessened if he stayed away from the All Star Game and gotten treatment, especially since he stated it occurred in the Bulls’ game which was the last before the break)

The thing is teams don't take the time to break down offenses in the regular season. They simply just don't have the time to dive deep into every teams offense to figure out ways to disrupt them.

We stumbled onto a style of play that worked for a stretch but almost any playoff team was going to figure out a way to disrupt it. JBB just has never prepared this team to overcome that with a lot of options that they put in the rep during the regular season.

Unfortunately, I think any change they do come up with now are going to be stuff they aren't use to running. Having to go through growing pains with offensive changes during the playoffs doesn't usually result in a good recipe for success.
 
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I love everything Strus has brought to this team.

It's bordering on cruel that the one thing we brought him for he's been miserable at. His 3 point shooting has been a disaster considering what we thought we were going to get with all the open looks he's gotten this season.

And he's even worse in the playoffs.

Don't get me started on Niang.

And reVert is back to his original layup missing, crazy middy taking, unconfident three point shooting.

Garland's confidence seems completely shot.

Mitchell is shit after a game 1 gem.

Mobley - eh

Allen is doing what he's supposed to do.

This many players playing bad is the coaching folks.

Not all of it is JBB's fault, but cmon man, you can't have this many players playing bad.

And again, JBB's best coaching moves were forced on him by injuries.
 
The thing is teams don't take the time to break down offenses in the regular season. They simply just don't have the time to dive deep into every teams offense to figure out ways to disrupt them.

We stumbled onto a style of play that worked for a stretch but almost any playoff team was going to figure out a way to disrupt it. JBB just has never prepared this team to overcome that with a lot of options that they put in the rep during the regular season.

Unfortunately, I think any change they do come up with now are going to be stuff they aren't use to running. Having to go through growing pains with offensive changes during the playoffs doesn't usually result in a good recipe for success.

I think the 17-1 streak has been undervalued because we weren’t just winning; we were blowing teams off the floor. The Don - Max - Ice - Wade - JA starting lineup was killing opposing offenses and was able to generate surprisingly efficient offense (although asking a lot from DM) and the bench unit of CL - Niang - Sam - CPJ with a little DJ and TT was pretty decent.

The problem is I’m not at all confident that group would do well in the playoffs. Bringing back Garland and Mobley gets us more talent overall but the fit is questionable.

I have those concerns regardless of the coach.
 
I think the 17-1 streak has been undervalued because we weren’t just winning; we were blowing teams off the floor. The Don - Max - Ice - Wade - JA starting lineup was killing opposing offenses and was able to generate surprisingly efficient offense (although asking a lot from DM) and the bench unit of CL - Niang - Sam - CPJ with a little DJ and TT was pretty decent.

The problem is I’m not at all confident that group would do well in the playoffs. Bringing back Garland and Mobley gets us more talent overall but the fit is questionable.

I have those concerns regardless of the coach.

It's hard to tell how a lineup will actually work in the playoffs. I think teams don't tend to modify what they do on defense in the regular season so it takes a lot of time for the league to collectively adjust to teams. Like teams will just copy the small in game adjustments that others teams will do. We basically saw it with the triple towers. We also saw it when teams were playing zone in the seasons the team was real bad.
 
The thing is teams don't take the time to break down offenses in the regular season. They simply just don't have the time to dive deep into every teams offense to figure out ways to disrupt them.

We stumbled onto a style of play that worked for a stretch but almost any playoff team was going to figure out a way to disrupt it. JBB just has never prepared this team to overcome that with a lot of options that they put in the rep during the regular season.

Unfortunately, I think any change they do come up with now are going to be stuff they aren't use to running. Having to go through growing pains with offensive changes during the playoffs doesn't usually result in a good recipe for success.
Several things at play...I'm irritated enough to call for someone's head to be tossed. I'm going straight at Bicker...he talks adjustments but he some for a stretch of about 5 minutes. He doesn't seem to know how to counter the adjustment Orlando made. And I wish someone would question hm on WHY his team comes out flat/tentative/passive after the half and when Orlando starts a run..he needs to explain that. He also needs to explain why he waits sooo long to call a TO in this series, when he was quick to do so during the regular season..and why is not going to other bench players??
I don't need to hear any excuses about the matchups vs Merrill ...You cal plays for him, screens ,sets etc to get him some looks..
I'm also tired of Niang, he himself was talking about adjustments but he hasn't made any within himself taking bad shots.
Why have Morris if you aren't going to use him against a team trying to intimidate your soft players???
Is the playoffs too big for Porter?? Your veteran players can't seem to handle it..Garland has really regressed a lot ..some of it due to his role , some of it on him.
Get Porter in for a stretch.
These guys should be prepared to have a target on their back ,yet they fold under pressure..
My other gripe...this is not a great 3point shooting team so stop hoisting them up . Go inside and collect points and fouls.
Oh and while I'm on the players and head coach , what are all these other assistants or cooks doing ? Everytime after the half Serena is talking to someone...and I keep wondering what are you doing with those other assistant to get these guys going in the second half??
I'm sick of seeing this team mentally take themselves out of a game.
Something is going to have to be done after they are done...and my attention will focus on Altman again..he's not off the hook..
 

Our boy Ev getting torched in this breakdown

Ev's basketball brain needs to catch up to his basketball talents, defensively speaking. He's been taking bad angles on defense and jumping at every pump fake offered to him.

Edit: And Franz isn't weak by any means but you can't get pushed out of the way with ease by him.
 
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Several things at play...I'm irritated enough to call for someone's head to be tossed. I'm going straight at Bicker...he talks adjustments but he some for a stretch of about 5 minutes. He doesn't seem to know how to counter the adjustment Orlando made. And I wish someone would question hm on WHY his team comes out flat/tentative/passive after the half and when Orlando starts a run..he needs to explain that. He also needs to explain why he waits sooo long to call a TO in this series, when he was quick to do so during the regular season..and why is not going to other bench players??
I don't need to hear any excuses about the matchups vs Merrill ...You cal plays for him, screens ,sets etc to get him some looks..
I'm also tired of Niang, he himself was talking about adjustments but he hasn't made any within himself taking bad shots.
Why have Morris if you aren't going to use him against a team trying to intimidate your soft players???
Is the playoffs too big for Porter?? Your veteran players can't seem to handle it..Garland has really regressed a lot ..some of it due to his role , some of it on him.
Get Porter in for a stretch.

These guys should be prepared to have a target on their back ,yet they fold under pressure..
My other gripe...this is not a great 3point shooting team so stop hoisting them up . Go inside and collect points and fouls.
Oh and while I'm on the players and head coach , what are all these other assistants or cooks doing ? Everytime after the half Serena is talking to someone...and I keep wondering what are you doing with those other assistant to get these guys going in the second half??
I'm sick of seeing this team mentally take themselves out of a game.
Something is going to have to be done after they are done...and my attention will focus on Altman again..he's not off the hook..
I just assumed CPJ was not available due to the rolled ankle in the last game of the season.
 
Correct and he’s still out for tomorrow’s game
I was mad he got hurt. I know he wasn't going to play much at all in the playoffs but it would have been nice to have him available if any of our guards got hurt or in foul trouble. Wanted to see how the rook could handle it.
 

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