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Blazie said:
Some of you guys willing to trade Mo for half a pack of cigarettes and a tube of toothpaste are off your meds.

Mo is the second best scorer on this team. Sure, his defense is below average, but I'd argue he had his hands pretty full with Rose and Rondo in the playoffs. I'm okay with trading him, but not for the garbage you guys want to bring back for him. Defense is not the only thing you need out of your starting point.

Mo needs to not get lazy with his passing and needs to toughen up and tighten up that defense considerably, but he can create his own shot, he's shown some ability to get the ball to his teammates (when he's not being lazy about it), he can rebound pretty well for his size and he's almost automatic from the line. These are things that may be attractive to other organizations and which have been great for us, at least during the regular season.

But to be talking about Millers-es and whatnot... I dunno. Not excited about that stuff. You guys are shit-nuts.
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With that logic ,Rondo and Rose should of had the hands full with Mo...
 
Should have, but didn't. I'm not arguing that Mo has been good in the playoffs, just that if you're going to trade him, you should expect more than a souvenir shot glass in return.
 
I think the Cavaliers have Mo's name out there to see what they might be able to get for him, which they could then flip to New Orleans for Chris Paul. Due to the presence of Darren Collison, New Orleans wouldn't have any interest in Mo.

Mo' than likely Mo isn't going anywhere. :tongue:
 
IF LeBron bolts then we should just keep Mo. He is more efficient as a ball dominant guard than a spot up shooter. Without LeBron, Mo can have his leeway on offense. We just shore up the SG and Center position through trades and the draft.
 
I'm gonna keep this to regular season only.


Rondo, Rose, Nelson average stats vs. Andre Miller this year (5 games)
18.2 Pts
6.4 Ast
2.8 Reb
71% from the field (42 of 60)

Rondo, Rose, Nelson average stats vs. Mo Williams this year (10 games)
16.4 Pts
8.7 Ast
3.9 Reb
48.2% from the field (68 of 141)


Numbers are for the most part very similar, I'm just not seeing how Andre Miller who turns 35 when the playoffs come around again is such a defensive upgrade.
 
I for one would love Andre Miller... 10 years ago. But now he can rot on another bench, unless we're taking him in a deal that substantially upgrades our SG or C positions.
 
maomaopukspuks said:
IF LeBron bolts then we should just keep Mo. He is more efficient as a ball dominant guard than a spot up shooter. Without LeBron, Mo can have his leeway on offense. We just shore up the SG and Center position through trades and the draft.
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Hell no. If LeBron leaves we blow it up, not sit in mediocrity forever which is what would happen if we do what you suggested.
 
Talm said:
I for one would love Andre Miller... 10 years ago. But now he can rot on another bench, unless we're taking him in a deal that substantially upgrades our SG or C positions.
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Strangely... we had Andre Miller 10 years ago.
 
Oh to be a Blazers fan at draft time. They already swung one deal and they're still looking at buying picks, swinging trades, you name it:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ys-draftbuzzb062210

Draft buzz: Blazers targeting Williams

By Adrian Wojnarowski, Yahoo! Sports 42 minutes ago

The Portland Trail Blazers have targeted University of Memphis guard Elliot Williams and are actively working to get an additional first-round pick in the 20s to draft him, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

Without another pick in the late first round, Portland will have to decide whether it wants to use the 22nd selection on Williams. The Blazers would prefer to use No. 22 on a different player, but don’t believe Williams will be available when they select again at No. 34.

Sources say the Blazers have been willing to give Memphis the 34th overall pick and as much as $3 million to get one of the Grizzlies’ two picks – either Nos. 25 or 28. Memphis has discussed trading those two picks to Minnesota to move up to the 16th spot.

Blazers owner Paul Allen paid $2 million to exchange the 44th pick for No. 34 with Golden State on Monday.

Williams has been slowed with a knee injury suffered in a predraft session last month in San Antonio, but Portland has worked him out and feels confident in his recovery.
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Blazers billionaire owner Paul Allen absolutely LOVES the draft. Can you tell? His wallet knows no limits when it comes to the draft. Allen was diagnosed with cancer this past year, so he's going to make sure that Kevin Pritchard is even more aggressive than normal- if that's even possible.
I don't think Allen will be satisfied until the Blazers own all 30 picks in the 1st round.
 
andre miller was awesome but we traded him so we can tank the season to get lebron
 
Why does everyone still seem to think we can land CP3? JohnReidTP via Twitter - "I am amazed how this stuff get started: From reliable sources, the Hornets are not looking to trade Chris Paul". I personally don't think this draft is as stacked as others on RCF's seem to think, IMO. If we buy into the draft its only to supplement Toronto with the pick they want for CB4.

Last year Hedo was all but in a Blazers uniform before he all of a sudden loved the weather in Toronto (and people make fun of Cleveland that we can't get anyone to come here b/c of weather) and signed with the Raptors. It's a Pipe-dream, but not out of the realm of possibility IF Toronto wants to rid themselves of Hedo's contract.

Cavs gets: Bosh and Hedo
(16.5 + 9.8 = 26.3)
Toronto gets: Andy, JJ, Wally, West
(7 + 1.5 + 13 + 4.5 = 26)

Then....
Portland takes Hedo and Mo
(9.8 + 9.3 = 19.5)

and Cavs get Andre Miller, Camby, Bayless/Batum/Fernandez
(6.7 + 9.1 + 2 = 17.8)

Of the 3 I would take Bayless/Batum, but Fernandez is certainly no E. Snow.
Now they may have to toss us 2 million or so but I think bottom line once you pull the trade with Toronto off then Portland would most definitely entertain giving up a Miller/Camby for the chances to have Mo, Roy, Hedo, Aldridge, and Oden as a starting 5.

Cavs Starting 5
PG - Miller
SG - Parker
SF - LBJ
PF - Bosh
C - MLE Filler (Possibly Brad Miller/ Maybe Shaq???)
Bench
Camby, Jamison, Powe, Moon, Bayless/Batum, Boobie, Danny Green

Andre Miller can still find the open man and on a team with LeBron and Bosh there will be quite a few people open.
 
bbaes said:
Chad Ford has dicks for brains. Batum for #4? I'm not even sure Batum and Aldridge for #4 would be fair. There's no way that is legit.
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Last year Batum averaged 10 points on 52% FG, 41% 3s, 84% FTs, and he's a solid defender. Not bad for a 21 year old..
 
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