Poll: Will Shane Bieber be traded before Opening Day 2024?

[Criznit]

Sorry for the new thread, but I don't think you can put polls into existing threads... So, pretty simple.... Will we keep Shane or trade him?

 

[Lee]

Sorry for the new thread, but I don't think you can put polls into existing threads... So, pretty simple.... Will we keep Shane or trade him?

Only a mod can do it I believe.

 

[sportscoach]

Sorry for the new thread, but I don't think you can put polls into existing threads... So, pretty simple.... Will we keep Shane or trade him?

It's fine to make a new thread since its going to be a hot topic until the trade deadline...

 

[DJTJ]

I’m going with no. Won’t believe it until it actually happens.

 

[CalBuckeyeRob]

They will certainly shop him which makes me believe they will trade him.

 

[Benway]

Good lord, I can't believe I'm voting yes.
I Know this is how they operate. I Know this is how they reload. And I've seen it work for years.
But I just think he's going to have a very good year.

 

[daddywags]

I've thought for a long time that it's either extend or trade. Leaning trade now, but won't be surprised if it's extension.

 

[CalBuckeyeRob]

I've thought for a long time that it's either extend or trade. Leaning trade now, but won't be surprised if it's extension.

I just can't see Cleveland giving him a long extension. 3 years $50-$55 million maybe? But he will probably bet on himself and hope a strong year gets him 6 years and $150 million next offseason.

 

[daddywags]

I don't know. I would think something that gets him to 100 guaranteed could be doable. Say 5/100 or 110 maybe with incentives and team options. Just spitballing.

 

[smalls1129]

Any extension, especially one considered team friendly in today's dollars will certainly come with a full no trade clause. If by some miracle they present a nearly full market value contract I still think a limited no trade will be included.

 

[Gson]

Good lord, I can't believe I'm voting yes.
I Know this is how they operate. I Know this is how they reload. And I've seen it work for years.
But I just think he's going to have a very good year.

Cincinnati had a front row seat to see what kind of "stuff" Bieber had in his last start of the 2023 season... They are well positioned to provide the Guardians with the top of their needs, however, not for the 2024 season. Shane Bieber fills a desperate need for the Reds, one that would command a premium return.

Someone from their ML roster like:
No one the Reds want to part with that the Guardians have any interest in..

The Reds prospects that are appealing include:
Chase Petty, a 20 yr old RH SP, AA in 2023. He's young, smart, throws three pitches, all for strikes: ETA 2025/13.0
Alfredo Duno, a teenage catcher with strong defensive tendencies & an impact bat: ETA 2027/8.0
Edwin Arroyo, a middle infield talent that splashes superstar tools, across the board; ETA 2025/14.9

So, if it's the Reds.. it would need to be a prospect for veteran type deal, imho.. Using the BTV site guarantees that Shane stays in Cleveland for at least most of the 2024 season. Using the Fangraphs valuation matrix/algorithm, Duno and one of the other guys would be fair.

Thoughts?

 

[sportscoach]

Cincinnati had a front row seat to see what kind of "stuff" Bieber had in his last start of the 2023 season... They are well positioned to provide the Guardians with the top of their needs, however, not for the 2024 season. Shane Bieber fills a desperate need for the Reds, one that would command a premium return.

Someone from their ML roster like:
No one the Reds want to part with that the Guardians have any interest in..

The Reds prospects that are appealing include:
Chase Petty, a 20 yr old RH SP, AA in 2023. He's young, smart, throws three pitches, all for strikes: ETA 2025/13.0
Alfredo Duno, a teenage catcher with strong defensive tendencies & an impact bat: ETA 2027/8.0
Edwin Arroyo, a middle infield talent that splashes superstar tools, across the board; ETA 2025/14.9

So, if it's the Reds.. it would need to be a prospect for veteran type deal, imho.. Using the BTV site guarantees that Shane stays in Cleveland for at least most of the 2024 season. Using the Fangraphs valuation matrix/algorithm, Duno and one of the other guys would be fair.

Thoughts?

It's an extremely good chance Cleveland will not trade Bieber without getting MLB help in return...

 

[Criznit]

Currently at 36 votes and still very close... I voted YES for 2 reasons.

1. Trading Shane now fits with their "MO"...
2. Not including him on the promo banner... Yeah that's a bit weak, but I think it is telling that he is definitely on the market.

 

[Lee]

Currently at 36 votes and still very close... I voted YES for 2 reasons.

1. Trading Shane now fits with their "MO"...
2. Not including him on the promo banner... Yeah that's a bit weak, but I think it is telling that he is definitely on the market.

I voted No because i think the offers are going to be weak, but if he starts off good, the offers will go way up by the deadline. Basically we need Beiber to perform to get a good offer in my opinion and the front office is very smart about these things.

 

[MadThinker88]

Voted no simply due to timing.

Is CLE taking offers on Bieber? Yes

But I doubt the offers will be good enough to push a deal across the finish line before opening day 2024.