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1. Annoyed that Vulture survived the crash and explosion. He should have been pulverized. Annoyed by that.
Gour: Going into the movie, you kinda realize the Vulture isn't going to die simply because the Sinister Six was obviously being set up as soon as you see them specifically mention "The Shocker." But with that said, I'm very very glad he didn't get offed in the film. One of the worst ways a movie builds a climatic end is by killing off great, iconic characters... The first Keaton Batman film totally fucked up by killing of The Joker. Joker could've returned in a third film, played by Nicholas, that would've saved that franchise before it totally went to shit.
With that said though, again, going back to the final battle, the way the Vulture essentially loses his battle with Spider-Man very anti-climatic though, in that; Spider-Man never actually defeated him... his own personal greed was his downfall.
Spider-Man is a force for positive good in this film, throughout, but isn't really a force to be reckoned with... One can argue that's just because this is the first of many films; but... if Spider-Man doesn't get better, he's got no shot against guys like Otto Octavius let alone the Sinister Six. /rant
Gour: Going into the movie, you kinda realize the Vulture isn't going to die simply because the Sinister Six was obviously being set up as soon as you see them specifically mention "The Shocker." But with that said, I'm very very glad he didn't get offed in the film. One of the worst ways a movie builds a climatic end is by killing off great, iconic characters... The first Keaton Batman film totally fucked up by killing of The Joker. Joker could've returned in a third film, played by Nicholas, that would've saved that franchise before it totally went to shit.
With that said though, again, going back to the final battle, the way the Vulture essentially loses his battle with Spider-Man very anti-climatic though, in that; Spider-Man never actually defeated him... his own personal greed was his downfall.
Spider-Man is a force for positive good in this film, throughout, but isn't really a force to be reckoned with... One can argue that's just because this is the first of many films; but... if Spider-Man doesn't get better, he's got no shot against guys like Otto Octavius let alone the Sinister Six. /rant
2. He looked more like Mothman than a Vulture. It was spooky, but not a Vulture.
Gour: The Vulture never really looked like a Vulture... I think this MCU version of the Vulture was an improvement upon the original...
Gour: The Vulture never really looked like a Vulture... I think this MCU version of the Vulture was an improvement upon the original...
3. How TF did he know about 'Moving Day'????
Gour: They knew where the shipments were going because they were initially contracted out to haul the alien materials themselves. They had already hauled the majority of their salvage, so they knew the routine and knew the long-term plan.
They also had the means of tracking the radiation from these alien materials, and that's how they found Parker's school... The Vulture should've known this was one of the Decathalon members by this time, but, he puts it together rather quickly anyway.
So over the course of 8 years, and what we can see as reconnaissance of Stark's efforts to move this material around, we can assume he pieced it together or knew the entire time.
Gour: They knew where the shipments were going because they were initially contracted out to haul the alien materials themselves. They had already hauled the majority of their salvage, so they knew the routine and knew the long-term plan.
They also had the means of tracking the radiation from these alien materials, and that's how they found Parker's school... The Vulture should've known this was one of the Decathalon members by this time, but, he puts it together rather quickly anyway.
So over the course of 8 years, and what we can see as reconnaissance of Stark's efforts to move this material around, we can assume he pieced it together or knew the entire time.
4. How can the cleanup facility full of dangerous alien hardware not have cameras are the store houses? How would it not be a 24 hour operation of they have no issues moving trucks at all hours? Why are they still cleaning up dangerous alien debris 8 years later or whatever?
Gour: Yeah.... There are no answers to these questions... These are definitely major plot-holes that don't make any sense, whatsoever. The pilot-less airplanes, unguarded, carrying HIGHLY dangerous materials; unguarded storage facilities filled with alien weapons, these essentially are just lazy McGuffins in this movie that really really really could and should have been done quite differently. On home-viewing, people will look back and say "that's fucking stupid."
Gour: Yeah.... There are no answers to these questions... These are definitely major plot-holes that don't make any sense, whatsoever. The pilot-less airplanes, unguarded, carrying HIGHLY dangerous materials; unguarded storage facilities filled with alien weapons, these essentially are just lazy McGuffins in this movie that really really really could and should have been done quite differently. On home-viewing, people will look back and say "that's fucking stupid."
5. MJ should have had now of a presence. They almost made her the Peter Parker in this movie (shy reserved one hiding their feelings)... Was that the intention? If so then I take back my issue with it.
Gour: I've seen this criticism a bit, and also with The Amazing Spider-Man (Garfield) film. I actually prefer MJ to come along later, after Spider-Man is a bit more established. That's how it happened in the comics and it's important because of how they developed their relationship. Moreover, Gwen Stacy is a very important character in the Spider-Man mythos, and MJ doesn't supercede her importance until much much later in Spider-Man's character development, long after they've been dating in the comics.
This movie doesn't have Gwen Stacy, and I'm assuming she likely won't appear in any of the films since her character's role has largely been replaced by Elizabeth Toomes minus the death, grief and trauma...
as well as this new MJ.
As far as this version of MJ, I have no idea where they are going with this... I don't particularly like the character design, but, maybe they felt putting a tall busty red-head would-be supermodel alongside Tom Holland wouldn't work... So it seems they might have meshed Stacy and Mary Jane together, the physicality of one, with the hidden, deeper emotional character of the other... so as to better fit Holland's screen presence?
Gour: I've seen this criticism a bit, and also with The Amazing Spider-Man (Garfield) film. I actually prefer MJ to come along later, after Spider-Man is a bit more established. That's how it happened in the comics and it's important because of how they developed their relationship. Moreover, Gwen Stacy is a very important character in the Spider-Man mythos, and MJ doesn't supercede her importance until much much later in Spider-Man's character development, long after they've been dating in the comics.
This movie doesn't have Gwen Stacy, and I'm assuming she likely won't appear in any of the films since her character's role has largely been replaced by Elizabeth Toomes minus the death, grief and trauma...
as well as this new MJ.As far as this version of MJ, I have no idea where they are going with this... I don't particularly like the character design, but, maybe they felt putting a tall busty red-head would-be supermodel alongside Tom Holland wouldn't work... So it seems they might have meshed Stacy and Mary Jane together, the physicality of one, with the hidden, deeper emotional character of the other... so as to better fit Holland's screen presence?
6. Someone brought up Vulture's house- I think this is a legit qualm, although I think it was a 'quiet' way of reinforcing his character's claim that he was doing what he did to give his daughter a good life.
Gour: Recall him saying "I could lose my house.. I'm all in on this!"
We don't know how long they've even lived there... One might think they bought/built that house after Toomes started doing weapons deals. Meaning, he's never actually "made" it in his career, in an honest profession, and he realizes he's gotta "change" because small guys like him would be left with "table scraps" if he chose to live an honest life.
I mean... with that said, think about it... What if we saw the Toomes family living in some shitty duplex? Wouldn't make much sense would it?
As you said, he's doing this for his daughter and his family; the most important thing to him in the world. So, the house is one of the fruits of his labor.
Gour: Recall him saying "I could lose my house.. I'm all in on this!"
We don't know how long they've even lived there... One might think they bought/built that house after Toomes started doing weapons deals. Meaning, he's never actually "made" it in his career, in an honest profession, and he realizes he's gotta "change" because small guys like him would be left with "table scraps" if he chose to live an honest life.
I mean... with that said, think about it... What if we saw the Toomes family living in some shitty duplex? Wouldn't make much sense would it?
As you said, he's doing this for his daughter and his family; the most important thing to him in the world. So, the house is one of the fruits of his labor.
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1. Annoyed that Vulture survived the crash and explosion. He should have been pulverized. Annoyed by that.
Gour: Going into the movie, you kinda realize the Vulture isn't going to die simply because the Sinister Six was obviously being set up as soon as you see them specifically mention "The Shocker." But with that said, I'm very very glad he didn't get offed in the film. One of the worst ways a movie builds a climatic end is by killing off great, iconic characters... The first Keaton Batman film totally fucked up by killing of The Joker. Joker could've returned in a third film, played by Nicholas, that would've saved that franchise before it totally went to shit.
With that said though, again, going back to the final battle, the way the Vulture essentially loses his battle with Spider-Man very anti-climatic though, in that; Spider-Man never actually defeated him... his own personal greed was his downfall.
Spider-Man is a force for positive good in this film, throughout, but isn't really a force to be reckoned with... One can argue that's just because this is the first of many films; but... if Spider-Man doesn't get better, he's got no shot against guys like Otto Octavius let alone the Sinister Six. /rant
2. He looked more like Mothman than a Vulture. It was spooky, but not a Vulture.
Gour: The Vulture never really looked like a Vulture... I think this MCU version of the Vulture was an improvement upon the original...
3. How TF did he know about 'Moving Day'????
Gour: They knew where the shipments were going because they were initially contracted out to haul the alien materials themselves. They had already hauled the majority of their salvage, so they knew the routine and knew the long-term plan.
They also had the means of tracking the radiation from these alien materials, and that's how they found Parker's school... The Vulture should've known this was one of the Decathalon members by this time, but, he puts it together rather quickly anyway.
4.
So over the course of 8 years, and what we can see as reconnaissance of Stark's efforts to move this material around, we can assume he pieced it together or knew the entire time.
4. How can the cleanup facility full of dangerous alien hardware not have cameras are the store houses? How would it not be a 24 hour operation of they have no issues moving trucks at all hours? Why are they still cleaning up dangerous alien debris 8 years later or whatever?
Gour: Yeah.... There are no answers to these questions... These are definitely major plot-holes that don't make any sense, whatsoever. The pilot-less airplanes, unguarded, carrying HIGHLY dangerous materials; unguarded storage facilities filled with alien weapons, these essentially are just lazy McGuffins in this movie that really really really could and should have been done quite differently. On home-viewing, people will look back and say "that's fucking stupid."
5. MJ should have had now of a presence. They almost made her the Peter Parker in this movie (shy reserved one hiding their feelings)... Was that the intention? If so then I take back my issue with it.
Gour: I've seen this criticism a bit, and also with The Amazing Spider-Man (Garfield) film. I actually prefer MJ to come along later, after Spider-Man is a bit more established. That's how it happened in the comics and it's important because of how they developed their relationship. Moreover, Gwen Stacy is a very important character in the Spider-Man mythos, and MJ doesn't supercede her importance until much much later in Spider-Man's character development, long after they've been dating in the comics.
This movie doesn't have Gwen Stacy, and I'm assuming she likely won't appear in any of the films since her character's role has largely been replaced by Elizabeth Toomes minus the death, grief and trauma...
As far as this version of MJ, I have no idea where they are going with this... I don't particularly like the character design, but, maybe they felt putting a tall busty red-head would-be supermodel alongside Tom Holland wouldn't work... So it seems they might have meshed Stacy and Mary Jane together, the physicality of one, with the hidden, deeper emotional character of the other... so as to better fit Holland's screen presence?
6. Someone brought up Vulture's house- I think this is a legit qualm, although I think it was a 'quiet' way of reinforcing his character's claim that he was doing what he did to give his daughter a good life.
Gour: Recall him saying "I could lose my house.. I'm all in on this!"
We don't know how long they've even lived there... One might think they bought/built that house after Toomes started doing weapons deals. Meaning, he's never actually "made" it in his career, in an honest profession, and he realizes he's gotta "change" because small guys like him would be left with "table scraps" if he chose to live an honest life.
I mean... with that said, think about it... What if we saw the Toomes family living in some shitty duplex? Wouldn't make much sense would it?
As you said, he's doing this for his daughter and his family; the most important thing to him in the world. So, the house is one of the fruits of his labor.
On point four, it takes a while to clean up debris. Berlin still had war debris when the Wall fell. The Chitari attack on NY was massive.
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@macbdog
1. Annoyed that Vulture survived the crash and explosion. He should have been pulverized. Annoyed by that.
Gour: Going into the movie, you kinda realize the Vulture isn't going to die simply because the Sinister Six was obviously being set up as soon as you see them specifically mention "The Shocker." But with that said, I'm very very glad he didn't get offed in the film. One of the worst ways a movie builds a climatic end is by killing off great, iconic characters... The first Keaton Batman film totally fucked up by killing of The Joker. Joker could've returned in a third film, played by Nicholas, that would've saved that franchise before it totally went to shit.
With that said though, again, going back to the final battle, the way the Vulture essentially loses his battle with Spider-Man very anti-climatic though, in that; Spider-Man never actually defeated him... his own personal greed was his downfall.
Spider-Man is a force for positive good in this film, throughout, but isn't really a force to be reckoned with... One can argue that's just because this is the first of many films; but... if Spider-Man doesn't get better, he's got no shot against guys like Otto Octavius let alone the Sinister Six. /rant
2. He looked more like Mothman than a Vulture. It was spooky, but not a Vulture.
Gour: The Vulture never really looked like a Vulture... I think this MCU version of the Vulture was an improvement upon the original...
3. How TF did he know about 'Moving Day'????
Gour: They knew where the shipments were going because they were initially contracted out to haul the alien materials themselves. They had already hauled the majority of their salvage, so they knew the routine and knew the long-term plan.
They also had the means of tracking the radiation from these alien materials, and that's how they found Parker's school... The Vulture should've known this was one of the Decathalon members by this time, but, he puts it together rather quickly anyway.
So over the course of 8 years, and what we can see as reconnaissance of Stark's efforts to move this material around, we can assume he pieced it together or knew the entire time.
4. How can the cleanup facility full of dangerous alien hardware not have cameras are the store houses? How would it not be a 24 hour operation of they have no issues moving trucks at all hours? Why are they still cleaning up dangerous alien debris 8 years later or whatever?
Gour: Yeah.... There are no answers to these questions... These are definitely major plot-holes that don't make any sense, whatsoever. The pilot-less airplanes, unguarded, carrying HIGHLY dangerous materials; unguarded storage facilities filled with alien weapons, these essentially are just lazy McGuffins in this movie that really really really could and should have been done quite differently. On home-viewing, people will look back and say "that's fucking stupid."
5. MJ should have had now of a presence. They almost made her the Peter Parker in this movie (shy reserved one hiding their feelings)... Was that the intention? If so then I take back my issue with it.
Gour: I've seen this criticism a bit, and also with The Amazing Spider-Man (Garfield) film. I actually prefer MJ to come along later, after Spider-Man is a bit more established. That's how it happened in the comics and it's important because of how they developed their relationship. Moreover, Gwen Stacy is a very important character in the Spider-Man mythos, and MJ doesn't supercede her importance until much much later in Spider-Man's character development, long after they've been dating in the comics.
This movie doesn't have Gwen Stacy, and I'm assuming she likely won't appear in any of the films since her character's role has largely been replaced by Elizabeth Toomes minus the death, grief and trauma...
As far as this version of MJ, I have no idea where they are going with this... I don't particularly like the character design, but, maybe they felt putting a tall busty red-head would-be supermodel alongside Tom Holland wouldn't work... So it seems they might have meshed Stacy and Mary Jane together, the physicality of one, with the hidden, deeper emotional character of the other... so as to better fit Holland's screen presence?
6. Someone brought up Vulture's house- I think this is a legit qualm, although I think it was a 'quiet' way of reinforcing his character's claim that he was doing what he did to give his daughter a good life.
Gour: Recall him saying "I could lose my house.. I'm all in on this!"
We don't know how long they've even lived there... One might think they bought/built that house after Toomes started doing weapons deals. Meaning, he's never actually "made" it in his career, in an honest profession, and he realizes he's gotta "change" because small guys like him would be left with "table scraps" if he chose to live an honest life.
I mean... with that said, think about it... What if we saw the Toomes family living in some shitty duplex? Wouldn't make much sense would it?
As you said, he's doing this for his daughter and his family; the most important thing to him in the world. So, the house is one of the fruits of his labor.
Regarding point 1:
The swashbuckling, borderline incompetent at times of Spiderman at work was clearly by design. I think they clearly realized that they had the opportunity for a much younger, undeveloped superhero and took full advantage of it. Seems to me that they clearly want him to be the Avengers star once the first gen Avengers all exit, but they can take their time and extend the heroes journey a bit longer than the single film it took most of the other superheroes to be full-fledged Avengers.
Personally, I thought that it was one of the best parts of the movie.
Personally, I thought that it was one of the best parts of the movie.
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I saw it. I liked it.
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I enjoyed it. You just have to be in the right mood.
Michelle Williams is excellent at playing broken women. I thought Gosling should've received more recognition for his performance too.
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Watched "The Stanford Prison Experiment" on Netflix last night as a precursor to the Tribe game. Know the background because I was a psych major in college, but actually seeing it depicted in a movie made me realize how crazy that must of been to be a participate in the study or even a bystander. I wonder how I would have reacted if I were chosen to be an inmate or guard...?
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Essentialy everyone became nazis in Germany. Those people were all human. Pick up "ordinary men"
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Recently watched...
Boyhood - First half was really good but the whole thing lost steam when the kid became a teenager and we lost track of the parent story-lines that were more interesting.
Coraline - Really well done animation and an interesting story for a kids film. Wasn't afraid to be weird.
Heathers - Started off not that great but once the plot actually gets rolling it gets funnier and more enjoyable. Still a very strange movie where the characters seem pretty far detached from relate-ability because it's such a satire.
Spider-Man: Homecoming - Fucking great. It's almost irritating how well Marvel met expectations for a Spider-man movie. Spidey has never been one of my favorite. I enjoyed Tobey but thought 2 was overrated. I saw the 2nd Garfield one and thought it was enjoyable and then everyone told me I was wrong and that they both sucked. But I didn't really care about Spider-man so whatever. This movie is a pretty damn near perfect super hero movie. It's really funny, sets up an interesting villain even though he's low-stakes, and finds ways to keep the characters and action interesting by either ignoring or subverting the expectations for a typical Spidey film. I didn't even know if I wanted to see this one, but friends were going. Turned out to be a higher tier Marvel flick.
Speaking specifically to the comedy, they had a lot of comedic actors in this one. I recognized a couple of NYC improvisers in funny bit parts. Donald Glover has a small, funny role. Hannibal Burress and Martin Starr are great as teachers in this. I've consistently found Marvel's comedic abilities impressive for the most part, and this is one of their funniest yet. Other than Guardians, perhaps their funniest movie. But I guess that's a weird measure for superhero franchises. Oh well.
Boyhood - First half was really good but the whole thing lost steam when the kid became a teenager and we lost track of the parent story-lines that were more interesting.
Coraline - Really well done animation and an interesting story for a kids film. Wasn't afraid to be weird.
Heathers - Started off not that great but once the plot actually gets rolling it gets funnier and more enjoyable. Still a very strange movie where the characters seem pretty far detached from relate-ability because it's such a satire.
Spider-Man: Homecoming - Fucking great. It's almost irritating how well Marvel met expectations for a Spider-man movie. Spidey has never been one of my favorite. I enjoyed Tobey but thought 2 was overrated. I saw the 2nd Garfield one and thought it was enjoyable and then everyone told me I was wrong and that they both sucked. But I didn't really care about Spider-man so whatever. This movie is a pretty damn near perfect super hero movie. It's really funny, sets up an interesting villain even though he's low-stakes, and finds ways to keep the characters and action interesting by either ignoring or subverting the expectations for a typical Spidey film. I didn't even know if I wanted to see this one, but friends were going. Turned out to be a higher tier Marvel flick.
Speaking specifically to the comedy, they had a lot of comedic actors in this one. I recognized a couple of NYC improvisers in funny bit parts. Donald Glover has a small, funny role. Hannibal Burress and Martin Starr are great as teachers in this. I've consistently found Marvel's comedic abilities impressive for the most part, and this is one of their funniest yet. Other than Guardians, perhaps their funniest movie. But I guess that's a weird measure for superhero franchises. Oh well.
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Saw "A Cure For Wellness". Another one of those weird, yet very intriguing movies for me. Had that Shutter Island vibe to it. 7/10.
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We had my nieces and nephews over for a couple days- caught up on quite a few Disney movies.
Moana is awesome- I'd give it a 9/10. The Rock is a talented dude, thought he did a solid job with his song- all the songs were great.
Zootopia- This was great as well. I'd say it's at about the same level as Moana.
Inside Out - I'd put it between 8.5 and 9. The kids loved it and there was plenty of adult humor to keep me entertained.
I hadn't watched any of the new Disney movies. My son isn't quite old enough that he can sit and watch a movie for a couple hours and they aren't something we watch on our own. Disney doesn't miss, thought all three of those were excellent.
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