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[The Human Q-Tip]

Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan The Director's Cut: 10.0/10.0

It is in the theaters for two days, SEP 10 and 13. Great on the big screen. @gourimoko

You notice a lot of things when the screen is big. Still the best Trek movie by a country mile.

We're all "bottoms" compared to Ricardo Montalban.

 

[-Akronite-]

IT

As a standalone film I thought it was really good. I feel like it accomplished what it set out to do- create a solid, modern adaptation of one-half of an epic book. I don't feel like they nailed it as an adaptation, but a faithful adaptation was not going to be possible in a two-part film series. At 2 hours and 15 minutes this film is fast paced, funny, exciting, and tells a great story with likable characters. To me, as a fan of the old movie and book, this did not feel it's length and if anything felt rushed in terms of exploring a lot of the themes present in It. But it was a somewhere between good and great movie and FELT like an It movie. Certainly an upgrade overall from the old TV movie. 8/10

I was super hyped for the movie. I was bummed when Fukunaga dropped out, but the trailer convinced me that they tried to be true to the story and I was excited to see this. Maybe I'm biased but I thought there was a lot of hype among people my age as well as online. /r/movies seemed pretty stoked. At this point I'm glad with the direction they went. I think it will ultimately be a better adaptation whereas Cary would have made it more his own. The result, possibly, could have been a better film, but what we got was really good and pulled almost entirely from the source material.

MORE ANALYSIS BELOW

Spoiler

PROS
-Acting: The kids especially are all superb. Stranger Things kid played a hilarious Richie, Eddie was funny as well as he was always ready w/ a comeback insult, Ben was super expressive, Bev was great. ..The only shortcomings here among the kids might have been Mike and Stan, who suffered from being underwritten. The bullies were realistically scary. The kids felt like kids. All the "fuck your Mom" jokes and the cursing and comebacks felt like real kids.

-Humor: There were multiple laugh out loud moments in this. The theater loved the jokes. The only issue I'd say was that there were moments of drama or fright that got undercut by a joke because they were so good at making things truly funny. Kinda like a Marvel movie in that they overused their strength a tad.

-Big Moments: The Georgie kill scene was awesome. The brutality of a small child crawling away with one arm and then seeing Pennywise's hand reaching for him, awesome. The projector scene, even though it was teased in the trailer, was great. I was caught off guard and couldn't stop smiling when the giant clown popped out. And the ending... I honestly was hoping the movie would end with a phone call, but it was smart to only include the kids in this one. When they gave the final "Chapter 1" reveal in the theater, you could hear the excitement. They'll be able to have big press for every adult casting for the next movie and really build more hype. They've nailed this from a business perspective. And because they didn't use that moment in this movie, my prediction is that they'll use It in the trailer.

-Scares: The movie didn't really scare me much, but some of the later scares were well executed even if they didn't frighten me. It was a cool movie with some creative ideas, most notably the projector but I loved the whole Niebolt showdown. And that part where Pennywise waved at them with a child's arm? Fucking great.

CONS
-Pennywise: I did not enjoy Bill Skarsgards portrayal. Some people loved it but I thought his acting left a lot to be desired. I stand by my opinion that his design was too much scary and not enough clown, but they did some cool shit with him (like the refrigerator). My main issue was that the voice and dialogue for the clown basically sucked. He sounded like Griff from Back to the Future and his delivery felt like he was trying hard to come off weird/scary and it just distracted me. And I felt like they were way too on the nose with the "I feed off fear" stuff, no room for subtlety. Overall, by the time they stab him he starts to feel too vulnerable. He gets really close or even grabs these kids multiple times without killing them, which doesn't really make sense, but I can see why they did it from a film making perspective.

-Lack of Exploration: A lot of elements from the book are thrown in without actually exploring them. Bill mumbles "he thrusts his fists" a few times but this doesn't allow a new audience member to know what that means. We see the dead lights once but get nothing else. We see Bill's bike is named Silver but a friend of mine I saw It with literally asked what that was about afterward. Pennywise says "beep beep Richie" even though they don't set it up with the kids, so it's meaningless. Additionally, the kids don't spend ANY time trying to figure out how to stop or kill the monster, they just search for him and attack him with regular weapons. There was none of the silver slug stuff or the Ritual of Chud, which I feel like was the largest element left out entirely.* They also spent so little time in the Barrens, which was strange. No damn building or friendship growing because they needed to get to the bigger plot elements faster. They did an alright job of showing Derry as a fucked up town that is part of the monster, but it's only a glimpse compared to the book.

-Mike: I love Mike as a character in the book. It's through his relationship with his father that we see how It uses/creates racial horror in Derry. The story of the Black Spot is one of the major highlights of 1200 pages (along with the big bird omen which would've made for an incredible visual), but it's basically a throwaway mention along with the other Derry disasters. They then use a different fire killing his parents as a means of giving Mike some background, but it just felt shallow to me. The bullies also didn't feel racist enough... is that a weird complaint? Like the 90s movie did a better job of selling what set Mike apart as a black kid. I sure as shit hope they do a better job in Part 2 with him. The fact that he stays behind as a librarian, keeping vigil until It returns... He needs to have a bigger role. Richie got the biggest boost in this movie, and it was well done, but it would be really disappointing if we don't get more Mike in Part 2.

*EDIT: The more I think about it the more it kinda bothers me that in this movie the kids don't just beat Pennywise with belief or a silver bullet, but they kick his ass and make him feel powerless. Like they just needed to work together to beat him up. How will he be scary to adults when they could show up with guns and fuck him up real bad again. Rinse and repeat every 27 years.

 

[czvo]

IT

As a standalone film I thought it was really good. I feel like it accomplished what it set out to do- create a solid, modern adaptation of one-half of an epic book. I don't feel like they nailed it as an adaptation, but a faithful adaptation was not going to be possible in a two-part film series. At 2 hours and 15 minutes this film is fast paced, funny, exciting, and tells a great story with likable characters. To me, as a fan of the old movie and book, this did not feel it's length and if anything felt rushed in terms of exploring a lot of the themes present in It. But it was a somewhere between good and great movie and FELT like an It movie. Certainly an upgrade overall from the old TV movie. 8/10

I was super hyped for the movie. I was bummed when Fukunaga dropped out, but the trailer convinced me that they tried to be true to the story and I was excited to see this. Maybe I'm biased but I thought there was a lot of hype among people my age as well as online. /r/movies seemed pretty stoked. At this point I'm glad with the direction they went. I think it will ultimately be a better adaptation whereas Cary would have made it more his own. The result, possibly, could have been a better film, but what we got was really good and pulled almost entirely from the source material.

MORE ANALYSIS BELOW

Spoiler

PROS
-Acting: The kids especially are all superb. Stranger Things kid played a hilarious Richie, Eddie was funny as well as he was always ready w/ a comeback insult, Ben was super expressive, Bev was great. ..The only shortcomings here among the kids might have been Mike and Stan, who suffered from being underwritten. The bullies were realistically scary. The kids felt like kids. All the "fuck your Mom" jokes and the cursing and comebacks felt like real kids.

-Humor: There were multiple laugh out loud moments in this. The theater loved the jokes. The only issue I'd say was that there were moments of drama or fright that got undercut by a joke because they were so good at making things truly funny. Kinda like a Marvel movie in that they overused their strength a tad.

-Big Moments: The Georgie kill scene was awesome. The brutality of a small child crawling away with one arm and then seeing Pennywise's hand reaching for him, awesome. The projector scene, even though it was teased in the trailer, was great. I was caught off guard and couldn't stop smiling when the giant clown popped out. And the ending... I honestly was hoping the movie would end with a phone call, but it was smart to only include the kids in this one. When they gave the final "Chapter 1" reveal in the theater, you could hear the excitement. They'll be able to have big press for every adult casting for the next movie and really build more hype. They've nailed this from a business perspective. And because they didn't use that moment in this movie, my prediction is that they'll use It in the trailer.

-Scares: The movie didn't really scare me much, but some of the later scares were well executed even if they didn't frighten me. It was a cool movie with some creative ideas, most notably the projector but I loved the whole Niebolt showdown. And that part where Pennywise waved at them with a child's arm? Fucking great.

CONS
-Pennywise: I did not enjoy Bill Skarsgards portrayal. Some people loved it but I thought his acting left a lot to be desired. I stand by my opinion that his design was too much scary and not enough clown, but they did some cool shit with him (like the refrigerator). My main issue was that the voice and dialogue for the clown basically sucked. He sounded like Griff from Back to the Future and his delivery felt like he was trying hard to come off weird/scary and it just distracted me. And I felt like they were way too on the nose with the "I feed off fear" stuff, no room for subtlety. Overall, by the time they stab him he starts to feel too vulnerable. He gets really close or even grabs these kids multiple times without killing them, which doesn't really make sense, but I can see why they did it from a film making perspective.

-Lack of Exploration: A lot of elements from the book are thrown in without actually exploring them. Bill mumbles "he thrusts his fists" a few times but this doesn't allow a new audience member to know what that means. We see the dead lights once but get nothing else. We see Bill's bike is named Silver but a friend of mine I saw It with literally asked what that was about afterward. Pennywise says "beep beep Richie" even though they don't set it up with the kids, so it's meaningless. Additionally, the kids don't spend ANY time trying to figure out how to stop or kill the monster, they just search for him and attack him with regular weapons. There was none of the silver slug stuff or the Ritual of Chud, which I feel like was the largest element left out entirely. They also spent so little time in the Barrens, which was strange. No damn building or friendship growing because they needed to get to the bigger plot elements faster. They did an alright job of showing Derry as a fucked up town that is part of the monster, but it's only a glimpse compared to the book.

-Mike: I love Mike as a character in the book. It's through his relationship with his father that we see how It uses/creates racial horror in Derry. The story of the Black Spot is one of the major highlights of 1200 pages (along with the big bird omen which would've made for an incredible visual), but it's basically a throwaway mention along with the other Derry disasters. They then use a different fire killing his parents as a means of giving Mike some background, but it just felt shallow to me. The bullies also didn't feel racist enough... is that a weird complaint? Like the 90s movie did a better job of selling what set Mike apart as a black kid. I sure as shit hope they do a better job in Part 2 with him. The fact that he stays behind as a librarian, keeping vigil until It returns... He needs to have a bigger role. Richie got the biggest boost in this movie, and it was well done, but it would be really disappointing if we don't get more Mike in Part 2.

Spoiler

I'm glad you brought up the portrayal of the clown. I was super excited after the sewer scene because I thought he played it brilliantly. Then the rest of the movie he just seemed like your basic movie monster.

 

[David.]

Don't understand the hype for IT. Steven King isn't great and his movies are horrible. IT was whatever the first iteration.

 

[The Oi]

Don't understand the hype for IT. Steven King isn't great and his movies are horrible. IT was whatever the first iteration.

Have you seen Carrie, The Shining, Stand By Me, Pet Sematary, Misery, Green Mile, 1408 or Shawshank Redemption?

These are all King adaptations.

I won't argue with you about his writing if you don't like his style, but this covers many different directors and movie styles.

I happen to also like The Mist and Creepshow but many don't.

 

[David.]

Have you seen Carrie, The Shining, Stand By Me, Pet Sematary, Misery, Green Mile, 1408 or Shawshank Redemption?

These are all King adaptations.

I won't argue with you about his writing if you don't like his style, but this covers many different directors and movie styles.

I happen to also like The Mist and Creepshow but many don't.

The shining was a good movie, the story was fine. Green mile and Shawshank were solid but that isn't the horror bs he normally writes.

Its all just whatever

 

[The Oi]

The shining was a good movie, the story was fine. Green mile and Shawshank were solid but that isn't the horror bs he normally writes.

Its all just whatever

I'm requesting a ban for calling The Shining "good" and "fine."

Stanley Kubrick didn't pour his life into that movie and literally invent the steady-cam to have some asshole on the internet to use the words good and fine to describe that masterpiece.

I also want this thread closed.

 

[Sir'Dom Pointer]

I don't watch movies, they last way too long nowadays. The only way I can spend 2.5 hours straight is browsing realcavsfans hitting F5 on my cellphone.


Last movie that I watched and enjoyed was Guardians of the Galaxy 2, most of the movies I see leave me with a big fucking hole in my wallet and for what?!

 

[David.]

I'm requesting a ban for calling The Shining "good" and "fine."

Stanley Kubrick didn't pour his life into that movie and literally invent the steady-cam to have some asshole on the internet to use the words good and fine to describe that masterpiece.

I also want this thread closed.

I want Kubrick to get the credit and not king. The movie was good, the story was whatever.

 

[The Oi]

I want Kubrick to get the credit and not king. The movie was good, the story was whatever.

That's fine. I'm going to pretend you called it one of the greatest movies of all time so we can move on.

 

[col63onel]

Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan The Director's Cut: 10.0/10.0

It is in the theaters for two days, SEP 10 and 13. Great on the big screen. @gourimoko

You notice a lot of things when the screen is big. Still the best Trek movie by a country mile. Also,

Spoiler

Spock still dies. But you notice how fucked up his face and hands got thanks to the radiation. Ouch.

I was planning on seeing it Sunday until the Tribe got flexed to 8.

Although, and I completely understand if everyone hates me for this, but Undiscovered Country is still my favorite of the Trek movies.

 

[Jack Brickman]

I happen to also like The Mist and Creepshow but many don't.

The Mist has one of the greatest endings of any horror movie I've seen.

 

[The Oi]

The Mist has one of the greatest endings of any horror movie I've seen.

Eh.

 

[Tlyons]

The Mist has one of the greatest endings of any horror movie I've seen.

Loved that ending


Sidenote...Carol survived otherworldly Aliens and Walkers = badass lady.

 

[KI4MVP]

Don't understand the hype for IT. Steven King isn't great and his movies are horrible. IT was whatever the first iteration.

That's why people wanted to see the new version instead of the made for tv miniseries that was the first iteration.