Trading Kyrie Irving?

[AllforOne]

Re: Look at Jackasses Who Said, "Trade Kyrie Irving"

To me this is a slippery slope, if we let a player dictate that he does not want to be here, then what is keeping future stars from doing the same thing to us. We hold a slight upper hand as we can offer the most money, and the 5 years and think we should call his bluff if he threatens not to sign the ext. I think this is also why it was so important to make a push for the playoffs this year. If we can finsih the year strong, I think it sends a message to KI that this is a good place to be at.

I don't think it would be the time to worry about what other players may do in the future. I agree that part of the Cavs' job here is to make it as enticing as possible for Kyrie to stay, and part of that job is to finish this year strong, coming close to (if not slipping into) the playoffs. And the system does provide the Cavs with several advantages for keeping him. If he doesn't sign an extension with the Cavs, and ends up signing the qualifying offer for the 2015-16 season (and let's not forget, that would be the first time in NBA history that a player coming off a rookie contract declined a max offer), that would cost him several million dollars, and create the risk of him not having long-term security in case he suffers a serious injury.

My point is: if he really, truly does not want to be here long-term -- if he really is focused on his "brand," and wants to play in a larger market, and isn't 100% committed to building his career here -- then they should look to trade him. We can't turn Cleveland into New York or L.A. If his mindset is that he wants to play in one of those mega-markets, no amount of franchise building is going to change his mind. Best to trade him and get a huge return.

My hope is that it never comes to this. I'd like to see Kyrie here for his career, and see him win a lot of games while wearing wine and gold. But if he doesn't want to wear the wine and gold (and again, this whole discussion is predicated on a big IF), then there's not much we can do except send him on his way.

 

[Randolphkeys]

Re: Look at Jackasses Who Said, "Trade Kyrie Irving"

To me this is a slippery slope, if we let a player dictate that he does not want to be here, then what is keeping future stars from doing the same thing to us. We hold a slight upper hand as we can offer the most money, and the 5 years and think we should call his bluff if he threatens not to sign the ext. I think this is also why it was so important to make a push for the playoffs this year. If we can finsih the year strong, I think it sends a message to KI that this is a good place to be at.

I absolutely worry more about precedent than what will happen several years down the line. This begins to push the conversation into a realm I try to avoid: criticising fans rather than players. So, I try to avoid the LeBron and Kyrie threads if I can... But, it might be wise to accept the idea that the NBA isn't fair to cities like Cleveland. They aren't equitable to the cold mid-markets, especially in the era of free agency. However, that doesn't necessitate reactionary moves like trading young stars when you control their rights for another 3+ years... or else you may as well just move the franchise out of town.

 

[Ohio]

Re: Look at Jackasses Who Said, "Trade Kyrie Irving"

Okay, there has been shame. Now delete

 

[gratefuldead]

i think im getting sick of this kid....all of these rumors can b false

if the lakers pick is high enough....im really thinking about it

 

[Toph]

God dammit, not this again.

 

[gratefuldead]

God dammit, not this again.

kid signs the extension i say delete my thread

if he plays games though, won't sign or wants early out....id trade his ass to the highest bidder...doesnt matter where he wants to go either...he can go to Milwaukee if they give the most

 

[Cassity14]

Is this bump in response to that ESPN article regarding Byron Scott? Please tell me you're not considering that a, "report," when it literally is nothing but speculation and admits to such.

The only useful tidbit of information is the allegedly Kyrie and Byron still keep in regular contact and have a good relationship. Is that a problem? What am I missing?

What more do you want from Kyrie right now? He's not going to commit to signing an extension that hasn't been offered yet.

 

[Fuggles]

kid signs the extension i say delete my thread

if he plays games though, won't sign or wants early out....id trade his ass to the highest bidder...doesnt matter where he wants to go either...he can go to Milwaukee if they give the most

I think you should wager something bigger than this.

 

[Randolphkeys]

I think you should wager something bigger than this.

Its like he rolled into the Bellagio with a sock full of quarters.