Tyronn Lue has been fired

[Goldin Brown]

I must be the only person here who doesn't think that Lue is a bad coach. I don't think he's great, but I think he's done a commendable job as our head guy so far. He is a young coach, I don't think that should be forgotten, he could actually learn from his mistakes and improve, it's not impossible. His rotations are questionable, no doubt, his defense has been trash the last couple of years. But, to be honest, the rosters he's been given the last couple of years really have not been the best. I do believe that he is putting Lebron in position to be his very best. I think the bigger problem is that we have not put the right compliment of players around Lebron, but that's another discussion.

My thing is, Ty Lue is not the reason Lebron is looking at other situations as possibly a better fit, it's the guys who have been in control of the roster that have Bron looking around. While Lue isn't perfect, I do think he's done a pretty good job given the difficult situation he's in. This is not an easy job, I mean, David Blatt basically imploded in the same situation...

 

[JMoneyYourHoney]

This is not an easy job, I mean, David Blatt basically imploded in the same situation...

Blatt was shat on by LeBron and several of his key players, that is all. We were a far more disciplined, well-oiled and overall better-coached team under Blatt than friggen Lue.

 

[Goldin Brown]

Blatt was shat on by LeBron and several of his key players, that is all. We were a far more disciplined, well-oiled and overall better-coached team under Blatt than friggen Lue.

I don't know what to tell you, man. Bron didn't respect Blatt, but he does seem to respect Ty Lue

 

[JMoneyYourHoney]

I don't know what to tell you, man. Bron didn't respect Blatt, but he does seem to respect Ty Lue

I have a hard time believing that LeBron doesn't recognize how unprepared and unequipped Lue is for the task as head coach of the Cavs. He pretty much made his bed though by backing him over Blatt, and after all the scuttlebutt about the malaise between him and Spoelstra in Miami, he doesn't want to be perceived as a coach killer.

There's nothing Lue does better than Blatt but increase LeBron's minutes, but keep getting fat off the narrative perpetuated by the Cavs' beat writers.

 

[Dshuks]

I must be the only person here who doesn't think that Lue is a bad coach. I don't think he's great, but I think he's done a commendable job as our head guy so far. He is a young coach, I don't think that should be forgotten, he could actually learn from his mistakes and improve, it's not impossible. His rotations are questionable, no doubt, his defense has been trash the last couple of years. But, to be honest, the rosters he's been given the last couple of years really have not been the best. I do believe that he is putting Lebron in position to be his very best. I think the bigger problem is that we have not put the right compliment of players around Lebron, but that's another discussion.

My thing is, Ty Lue is not the reason Lebron is looking at other situations as possibly a better fit, it's the guys who have been in control of the roster that have Bron looking around. While Lue isn't perfect, I do think he's done a pretty good job given the difficult situation he's in. This is not an easy job, I mean, David Blatt basically imploded in the same situation...

In your words his rotations are questionable , and his defense is trash. But he's young so one day he might improve ?
That's one hell of a marketing pitch I gotta say!

Next you'll say he sucks at developing young talent, but he gives Lebron good shoulder rubs so it all evens out.

 

[Goldin Brown]

In your words his rotations are questionable , and his defense is trash. But he's young so one day he might improve ?
That's one hell of a marketing pitch I gotta say!

Next you'll say he sucks at developing young talent, but he gives Lebron good shoulder rubs so it all evens out.

I mostly think the roster construction is bad, and in turn you can't get anything but bad defense and weird rotations. I really don't think Lue is as bad as everyone makes him out to be, that's all I'm saying, just my opinion. Yall can think whatever the hell you want.

 

[Cavatt]

I have a hard time believing that LeBron doesn't recognize how unprepared and unequipped Lue is for the task as head coach of the Cavs. He pretty much made his bed though by backing him over Blatt, and after all the scuttlebutt about the malaise between him and Spoelstra in Miami, he doesn't want to be perceived as a coach killer.

There's nothing Lue does better than Blatt but increase LeBron's minutes, but keep getting fat off the narrative perpetuated by the Cavs' beat writers.

The question for me between Blatt and Lue is who did Blatt make better

Delly
Moz
TT
Shump
Jr

Who has Lue gotten more out of than we expected?

Jeff Green?
I'd love to say Richard Jefferson, but that was a matter of Kevin getting a concussion and no good option at of

That is the big indictment to me. This year's team with LeBron looked like LBJ had to do more than the one without both Kyrie and Love in 2015.

 

[Goldin Brown]

I'm really not trying to be the Lue apologists lol, but I think you can make a case that Lue has gotten more out of Love than Blatt did. Kevin Love was really marginalized under Blatt. With that said, I do think Blatt is a better basketball coach than Ty Lue. Blatt does have much more experience as a Head Coach than Ty Lue, so... I think the main problem with Blatt was that he was unable to relate to star players. That's kind of a big deal in the NBA.

Managing egos is a big part of coaching at this level and seems to actually be a strength of our current head coach. If he can improve his weaknesses, then he will be a very good coach for a long time.

 

[Heej]

Spoelstra got criminally underrated when LeBron was there and then improved tremendously when he left. Coaches need to develop just as much as players. I'd rather the Cavs not give up on Ty Lue as long as his health can handle it. He has room to get better just like Spo did. Spo's mentor happened to Riley so the bad habits that are part of his coaching DNA are stuff like running his stars into the ground the way he ran Lebron into the ground in 2011. Ty Lue unfortunately had Doc Rivers as a mentor so his DNA is infused with loyalty and playing "his guys" like Jeff "marry my daughter" Green

 

[Sir'Dom Pointer]

Blatt was shat on by LeBron and several of his key players, that is all. We were a far more disciplined, well-oiled and overall better-coached team under Blatt than friggen Lue.

Blatt's reputation and future in the NBA has been destroyed from what happened and for no good reason. The aftermath was just too much.

He can not find a job in the despite the myriad of vacant HC positions even after winning the Eurocup this year. It's pretty sad actually.

I think he was just too nice after the firing and let everyone just shit on him..too class. And it seems like he is too stubborn to start as an assistant to build up his reputation from the bottom in the NBA and work on his relationships with the players and front offices.

I really wanted to see him get a second chance in the NBA. Instead he is going to stay in Europe for no good reason. He should have taken an assistant job 2 years ago, but at this point it may be too late because he is pushing 60.

 

[Douglar]

Blatt was shat on by LeBron and several of his key players, that is all. We were a far more disciplined, well-oiled and overall better-coached team under Blatt than friggen Lue.

If I remember right, it was Lue that wrapped his arms around Blatt to keep that pompous douche from calling a time out he didn't have at a pivotal moment in a tight playoff series. That incident was a near perfect encapsulation of the 18 months that Blatt was head coach in the NBA. Blatt is no longer an NBA head coach for some very good reasons and is unlikely to ever be one again for some very good reasons.

 

[JMoneyYourHoney]

If I remember right, it was Lue that wrapped his arms around Blatt to keep that pompous douche from calling a time out he didn't have at a pivotal moment in a tight playoff series. That incident was a near perfect encapsulation of the 18 months that Blatt was head coach in the NBA. Blatt is no longer an NBA head coach for some very good reasons and is unlikely to ever be one again for some very good reasons.

The botched timeout is all the Lue defenders have to hang their hats on.

I recall Lue only last month gluing Korver to the bench because his Boston counterpart elected to not play his scrub matchup. Somebody told Lue "Chess" and he said "King me".

 

[theSwayze]

Somebody told Lue "Chess" and he said "King me".

Stealing this for frequent use.

 

[buzzdog]

I'm really not trying to be the Lue apologists lol, but I think you can make a case that Lue has gotten more out of Love than Blatt did. Kevin Love was really marginalized under Blatt. With that said, I do think Blatt is a better basketball coach than Ty Lue. Blatt does have much more experience as a Head Coach than Ty Lue, so... I think the main problem with Blatt was that he was unable to relate to star players. That's kind of a big deal in the NBA.

Managing egos is a big part of coaching at this level and seems to actually be a strength of our current head coach. If he can improve his weaknesses, then he will be a very good coach for a long time.

Good luck with this. There's nothing anyone can say to change the seething hatred this group has for Lue, minds are made up.

The disconnect between the opinions of players and NBA insiders and the opinions of Cavs fans is substantial and IMO somewhat irrational.

 

[Douglar]

The botched timeout is all the Lue defenders have to hang their hats on.

I recall Lue only last month gluing Korver to the bench because his Boston counterpart elected to not play his scrub matchup. Somebody told Lue "Chess" and he said "King me".

One of those things is a judgement call. The other was a blatant screw up by a guy who compared himself to a fight pilot.

Blatt's points from plays after time outs were below average at best. He showed himself to be unable to relate to NBA players or sports journalists. The quotes he made suggested he had no idea what his short coming were or what was required by him to do his job. His work ethic was poor, sometimes failing to show up to the gym on time. Behind closed doors Blatt was the laughing stock of the league. If any thing ruined Blatt, it was that he was spoiled by his over seas success and that prevented him from seeing what he was doing wrong in the NBA.

Lue might look funny, but the guy works hard, gets "buy-in" from most of his players, is generally well respected around the league, and he's going to be around for at least one more year, Lebron or no Lebron.