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Cleveland Cavaliers target unrestricted free agent Charlie Villanueva
by Brian Windhorst, Plain Dealer Reporter
Monday June 29, 2009, 6:47 PM

The NBA is changing by the day and, it seems, it always affects the Cavaliers.

In a move that was considered shocking in corners Monday, the Milwaukee Bucks decided not to offer young free-agent power forward Charlie Villanueva a qualifying offer to make him a restricted free agent. He now will be unrestricted, which makes him significantly easier to sign because the Bucks will not have matching rights. According to sources, Villanueva now will be one of the Cavs' free-agent targets when teams are allowed to speak with them Wednesday.

The Cavs have their mid-level exception, expected to be around $5.6 million to $5.8 million, to offer in the first year of a contract. Villanueva's qualifying offer would have been $4.6 million. His salary last season was $3.4 million. Several teams with more salary cap space, such as the Detroit Pistons and Oklahoma City Thunder, might have interest in Villanueva, who averaged 16.2 points and 6.7 rebounds in 27 minutes per game for the Bucks.

Extending qualifying offers, which are not binding, usually are a formality for players in his class. The Bucks, who have financial problems that already prompted them to trade Mo Williams to the Cavs last summer and Richard Jefferson to the Spurs last week, decided to move on after trading for Amir Johnson from the Pistons as part of the Jefferson deal. With the current state of the economy, more and more teams are having to make such financial decisions.

Villanueva, a 6-11 24-year-old coming off a career-best season, has been flirting with the idea of coming to the Cavs in recent weeks on his Twitter account. Last Thursday, he hinted all the Cavs needed after trading for Shaquille O'Neal was a power forward. In a message Sunday, he thanked Cavs fans who have been contacting him via the social messaging network.

Monday afternoon, he thanked Bucks fans on his Twitter feed and wrote: "Now its on Gods hands (sic), where will I end up, only time will tell."

Villanueva has a good relationship with Williams, who became close to him the two seasons they played together in Milwaukee. Williams could serve as a recruiter much in the same way he helped bring another of his close friends to the Cavs, former Bucks teammate Joe Smith, when he was a free agent last March.

Villanueva also has a long-standing relationship with LeBron James. The two were in the same high school class and played with each other in various tournaments and summer camps as they were growing up. Following their senior year of high school, Villanueva and James became closer while taking part in two national All-Star Games, including the McDonald's All-American Game in Cleveland. They have kept in touch ever since.

The Cavs have been looking for a "stretch" power forward like Villanueva for some time. Because he is a good mid-range and decent long-range shooter (35 percent on 3-pointers last season), he is potentially a good fit alongside players such as James and Williams, who like to drive and kick out passes. Add in O'Neal, who succeed earlier in his career with stretch power forwards such as Robert Horry in Los Angeles and Antoine Walker in Miami, and that option creates an even better fit.

The team is expected to consider other players this week who can play that role, including Rasheed Wallace and Antonio McDyess.

The decision to seriously go after Villanueva is part of a larger decision the team must make. Do they go attempt to go after some older players and get them on one-year contracts to preserve the chance at the 2010 free-agent mega class? Or do they not follow the crowd of teams who are protecting cap space for 2010 and take advantage of being a buyer in a sellers' market and create a stronger core now?

Using the entire mid-level exception on a player like Villanueva, using the bi-annual exception of $2 million on a wing player and re-signing Anderson Varejao would pretty much take the Cavs out of the 2010 market for the top names besides re-signing James.

By trading for O'Neal, whose contract -- along with Zydrunas Ilgauskas' -- ends after the coming season, the Cavs are currently in position to re-sign James and add another player with a maximum level contract while also hanging on to Williams and Delonte West.
 
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I dont know who would be a possibility in a sign and trade....I dont really want to do it but if we get a starting quality wing man, like a josh howard or something, then I think that would be pretty good.
 
I think it's a pretty good bet that Charlie Villanueva will be a Cavalier this coming season.

Of course, nothing is a done deal, until it's a done deal.

the Bucks could change their minds and decide to make a qualifier, or another team could step in and make a move for him that he prefers ... but, just knowing what I know on our end, and what seems to be the case on the Bucks and CV's end of things, it's looking more and more to me, like he is destined to become a Cavalier in the very near future.

And, I would like to add that he should be an absolute perfect fit between Lebron and Shaq at the PF position.

His youth, as well, is a very key component.

This has "perfect match" between team and player written all over it.

What percentage he will be a Cav?
 
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I won't call CV a perfect fit simply because he isn't a good defender. He could improve this season, however. Maybe Mike's system will somehow hide his deficiencies, who knows?
 
Yea....to me he was a player on a bad team that probably wasn't always busting his ass on the defensive end....I think in Cleveland he is on a good team with stars like LBJ and now Shaq to get on his ass if he has any lapses...I think it was him not wanting too play defense some times than him not being able too....I love the move and I really hope we can land him
 
IDK if Mike can handle all this offense...his head might explode

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Let me get this straight, the people arguing against CV are citing his defensive deficiencies? Let me ask you this, if CV is a decent defender or even a great defender, do you honestly think we can get him for the MLE? Frigging heeeeelll no! He would be commanding AT LEAST $10 million a year if he had anykind of defensive reputation to go along with his offensive prowess. So be glad that he is even entertaining the thought of coming to Cleveland for the MLE because in a different economy, he will be Cleveland's pipe dream this season.
 
My dream starting 5 for 2010.

PG-Mo
SG-Raja Bell
SF-LBJ
PF-Amare/Bosh
C-Chandler
 
A LITTLE BIT OF INFO ABOUT WHAT WE ARE FEARING MOST:

Pistons Seeking Boozer, Villanueva, Gordon
Posted: 6/30/2009 6:23:00 AM
Source: Chris McCosky of The Detroit News

The Pistons would love to sign Carlos Boozer should he decide today to opt out of the final year of his contract with the Jazz and become a free agent.

Why wouldn't they? He's 26 and one of the elite power forwards in the game, capable of averaging 20 points and 10 rebounds.

However, if Boozer opts out, he would leave $12.6 million on the table in Utah. Thus, there is a good chance Boozer, as has been widely speculated, would look to start his next contract at $14 million or $15 million.

If that is the case, the Pistons most likely would walk away.

The Pistons expect to have between $17 million and $19 million of available cap space (the exact number will be determined within the next week when the NBA releases new salary-cap figures). With that, president Joe Dumars has said they hope to get at least two top-tier players -- one is expected to be a scoring guard, the other a starting power forward.

Teams can begin negotiating with free agents Wednesday, but they can't sign any until July 8.

Bulls guard Ben Gordon, an unrestricted free agent, is probably at the top of the Pistons' wish list. At 26, he has become one of the most efficient and clutch scorers in the league, averaging 20.7 points with the Bulls last season, and 24 points in a brilliant playoff series against the Celtics.

Boozer was believed to be the Pistons' top choice at power forward, but not at $14 million per year. Assuming Boozer does not dramatically reduce his asking price, the Pistons would go after Bucks forward Charlie Villanueva.

Villanueva will turn 25 in August and is coming off his best season. He averaged 16.2 points and 6.7 rebounds for the Bucks. At 6-foot-11, he can score off the dribble, is a better than average long-range shooter (45 percent) and has a clever post game.

The cash-conscious Bucks announced Monday they would not make a qualifying offer to Villanueva, making him an unrestricted free agent.

The Pistons could conceivably sign Gordon and Villanueva and still have money left over to pursue re-signing Antonio McDyess. McDyess, an unrestricted free agent, is expected to receive offers from numerous teams, including Boston, Orlando, Cleveland and San Antonio.
 
Let me get this straight, the people arguing against CV are citing his defensive deficiencies? Let me ask you this, if CV is a decent defender or even a great defender, do you honestly think we can get him for the MLE? Frigging heeeeelll no! He would be commanding AT LEAST $10 million a year if he had anykind of defensive reputation to go along with his offensive prowess. So be glad that he is even entertaining the thought of coming to Cleveland for the MLE because in a different economy, he will be Cleveland's pipe dream this season.

Is anyone arguing against getting Villanueva? His defensive deficiences are noted, and they need to be, they are a huge strike against him, but I don't think anyone's said "don't want him at all". I think it's just fair to point out that, despite his ability on offense, he's still around a league average player. Is he helpful and should you get him? Yeah, sure, unless something crazy like Artest falls in your lap. But he's no bargain at a contract that starts at the MLE.
 
I'm under the suspicion that CV might be going to Detroit...
 
why go to a city that has had 4 different coaches since 2003, is not competeing for a championship next season, and doesnt know who their coach is at the moment.

Or you could come to the cavs yes for less money but you have 2 good friends ( LeBron and Mo), arguebly the best play LBJ, complete for a championship, play next to a future hall of famer Shaq, only have to take less money in the first year of the contract and when the contract is over you'll be around the age of 27-28 when most players get their big time contract
 

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