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Will Cavs make run at Bosh this summer?

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Expirings have negative value in S&T's unless most or all of the contract is not guaranteed (Delonte, Dampier, etc).

I'd say neutral value at worst. Not negative, and it depends on the team.
 
Expirings have negative value in S&T's unless most or all of the contract is not guaranteed (Delonte, Dampier, etc).

Technically yes, but not really. The trade is not for the expirings, the trade is for solid players like Delonte, Boobie, and possibly to get out of Turks/Joses contract (which in that case the expiring is huge). Another player that we should be looking at IMO is Amare as I don't think PHX will offer him the max contract but who knows, we shall see in the offseason.
 
Why not? Wouldn't that be the easiest money he has ever made? Then he can do a Ben Wallace and just sign with someone else after be cut (bought out)?

Shaq may understand that he is not the great Shaquille any more, but his ego is to big for that. Wally is the only S&T we do imo, Shaq lets just lock him up to keep our C position ok for next season. We shouldn't trade Shaq at all imo because then there is no way we would get him back.
 
Agreed, but if Toronto gets a couple young players like Hickson, Eyenga (whom supposedly they love), wouldn't that make up for it? They still get cap room next year too.
Depends on how much they like Gibson, what they plan to do with Delonte (cut or keep), what pick(s) are involved, and if cash is involved.

It'd be a little different if the player coming back to Cleveland didn't have the status Bosh has, or the team Cleveland was trading with didn't have the burden of 2 other just awful contracts plus another big contract. Losing Bosh will not please the Toronto fans. Period. It doesn't matter who is going back to Toronto. Jamison and his "18/8" doesn't matter. Hickson's potential doesn't matter. Delonte's contract which allows them to save ~$4M doesn't matter. If Bosh goes to Cleveland, attendance plummets. Merchandise sales plummet.Sponsorship deals become non-existent. Keep in mind they'll still be paying Hedo, Jose, and Bargs close to $30M.

The financial implications go WAY past the salaries involved in the trade itself.

I'd say neutral value at worst. Not negative, and it depends on the team.
How?

The Cavs expirings excluding Delonte are useless on every non-contender in the league. And Telfair is just useless on every team in the league. The team would be flushing money down the toilet.

Now if those expirings are attached to some star prospect, which Hickson is not, then it changes.

In the Toronto trade posted earlier, they are 100% useless unless Hedo or Jose is coming back, which they are not.

Technically yes, but not really. The trade is not for the expirings, the trade is for solid players like Delonte, Boobie, and possibly to get out of Turks/Joses contract (which in that case the expiring is huge). Another player that we should be looking at IMO is Amare as I don't think PHX will offer him the max contract but who knows, we shall see in the offseason.
The salary you had outgoing was barely enough for Bosh, including Hedo or Jose would tack on another $7M outgoing or so necessary to make the trade work.

But yes, if Hedo or Jose is included that changes things. But expirings in a deal for Bosh alone are a waste of money for Toronto.

edit: and I think the Suns pay Amare what he wants, especially if they have a good showing (or even win) against SA.
 
Man, I would be absolutely sick if I was a Toronto fan right now. This one falls on the front office; they clearly have not done enough to keep him in town and build a winner, and now it's gonna cost them.

I am disgusted as a Toronto fan, but I understand how Bosh would want out. I would, I love winning more than any thing personally, and it has to be frustrating to be at the top of your game and not be able to win. Also have no real upside to your team is also a huge set back. I just hope as a Cavs fan that he becomes a Cav.
 

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