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Will this help them beat the Heat in the playoffs, should they meet them? That's all I care about.

It probably makes it easier for Miami to beat them since it looks like they'll be going small a lot, which would allow them to play Miller, Wade, Lebron, Jones at the same time...And still have a height advantage.
 
I think this would have been a solid trade for the Magic if they had not done the Arenas trade. But maybe they plan to move Nelson for a big of some kind.
 
Not sure if it was posted and got lost, but the Magic also got two TPEs of $6.3mil and $1.8mil. Talk about robbery!!!
 
Not sure if it was posted and got lost, but the Magic also got two TPEs of $6.3mil and $1.8mil. Talk about robbery!!!

Which would seem to portend more moves on the horizon. I think Jameer Nelson's days are probably numbered. No reason to keep both he, arenas, and duhon.
 
Which would seem to portend more moves on the horizon. I think Jameer Nelson's days are probably numbered. No reason to keep both he, arenas, and duhon.

I dont think Stan van Gundy ment Jameer will never get off the bench, when he said "Jameer will not come off the bench".
 
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poor shard
 
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/14461388/blockbuster-deal-a-bigger-deal-for-magics-howard

Do the bold moves guarantee anything? Other than the fact that the Magic are trying to keep their star happy and on a championship level, no. There are no guarantees. If the experiment blows up, as the Cleveland concoction of Shaquille O'Neal and Antawn Jamison famously imploded, then Howard simply will be one step closer to being Carmelo Anthony.

After the anticipated lockout ends, Howard will be entering the final year of his contract followed by an early-termination option for 2012-13. He would be set to join another epic free-agent class, which also could include Paul, Deron Williams, and Derrick Rose. Depending on what the league's free-agent rules and payroll structure will be, Howard could have substantial leverage to force a trade during the season-and-a-half leading up to the 2012 trade deadline.

People with knowledge of Howard's thinking said the superstar is on board with Orlando's moves, with one saying he's "a big fan" of the changes. But as he grew restless over the summer about the developments in South Florida, and as the Magic were exposed in recent weeks, Howard privately already was beginning to weigh his options. Like the list of stars he wanted to join him in Orlando, he was forming another list: potential suitors for him. Two teams were on it, according to sources: the Knicks and Lakers.

The steps to becoming the next team to loose your star player

  1. Over Pay a 'Star' player..... who isn't a star
  2. Make drastic moves when you realize your window is closing
  3. Bring in any has been or anything remotely close to a talent upgrade
  4. Handcuff your payroll
  5. Do not attempt to develop talent
  6. Do not take value in the future
  7. Win now at all costs
  8. Pray your star stays
 
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/14461388/blockbuster-deal-a-bigger-deal-for-magics-howard
Like the list of stars he wanted to join him in Orlando, he was forming another list: potential suitors for him. Two teams were on it, according to sources: the Knicks and Lakers.


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dear god Can you imagine a Melo, Stoudemire, Howard front court...

Howard on the Lakers makes them contenders for another half decade...

fuck Lebron for making all the superstars in the league want to join only 2 or 3 different teams
 
I hope Dwight stays with the Magic. I really don't like all these superstars joining each other and forming super teams. It just runs competition, its boring as hell.
 
Rose, Deron Williams, Chris Paul and Dwight Howard in one draft? A lot of things can happen between now and then and we might as well maintain cap space to make a very hard push to get one.
 
I hope Dwight stays with the Magic. I really don't like all these superstars joining each other and forming super teams. It just runs competition, its boring as hell.

What are you talking about? All NBA teams have superstar squads now by my count - Boston, LA, Miami, Chicago, Miami, and probably NY Knicks in the near future. That covers everyone.

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Rose, Deron Williams, Chris Paul and Dwight Howard in one draft? A lot of things can happen between now and then and we might as well maintain cap space to make a very hard push to get one.

Nah. What is that? 2-3 years from now? Most of the guys will be 27-28? (Rose will get an extension soon, I would bet). Better to take team's lunch money instead as they fumble over themselves trying to free up money for free agency.
 
Not sure if it was posted and got lost, but the Magic also got two TPEs of $6.3mil and $1.8mil. Talk about robbery!!!

I don't see the Orlando first round pick involved in this trade as originally reported:

http://www.nba.com/news/transactions/2010_11/index.html

If the pick was indeed left out of the Phoenix trade, I could see Orlando firming up the front line with a TPE + this year's #1. Hey, have you seen the greatness of Ryan Hollins this year?

http://realcavsfans.com/showthread.php?34791-I-ll-have-what-Ryan-Hollins-is-having

:rolleyes:
 
dear god Can you imagine a Melo, Stoudemire, Howard front court...

Howard on the Lakers makes them contenders for another half decade...

fuck Lebron for making all the superstars in the league want to join only 2 or 3 different teams

I sitll don't see how Lebron changed anything that used to already go on. I mean players have been running to the Lakers since the beggining of time it seems. Look at the massive list of all time great players who have either been traded to, or signed through FA by the Lakers. It's stunning. You could have a museum JUST for all time great players who played in LA but weren't actually drafted by LA. Players have been collaborting to get to LA for a long, long time. Long before Lebron ran to Miami.
 

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