2017-18 Cleveland Indians Offseason

[Urban]

Not true.

Ozuna is arbitration eligible this season and next-- He's projected to get $11M this season.

Indians wouldn't trade for him unless they can extend him and buyout his remaining arbitration years so you're looking at any deal starting at $10M+. Add in the yearly escalators and now he's much more expensive than Yelich.

If I'm giving up a highly rated prospect, it's Yelich all day. Better contract, much more consistent performance history and no personality red flags.

Meant cheaper as in what we'd have to give up for him. 5 years of Yelich on a reasonable contract should cost a decent amount more than 2 years of Ozuna.

Don't see him signing an extension with us especially with only 2 more years of arbitration, especially since he'll be making much more than he did last year.

 

[sportscoach]

Guys like Pollock and Ozuna will be on the short list of interesting trade candidates for the Indians, but both only have couple seasons left. Pollock at the moment may be cheaper and Arizona is looking for more relief pitchers, but with us losing Shaw, can we part with McAllister and a solid prospect or two for a Pollock? Ozuna would still cost a good prospect and I don’t see the Marlins parting with Yelich without getting back the Mejia or McKenzie type of prospect back. Shoot I wouldn’t trade Yelich unless I got at least one of those guys and Greg Allen back in the deal plus a couple more decent prospects

 

[Urban]

Pollock is a year away from UFA and is injury prone. Not interested unless he's dirt cheap. Unlikely we can retain him if he has a bounce back year, and if he has another underwhelming, injury prone season I'm skeptical of shelling out big money to him.

 

[sportscoach]

Pollock is a year away from UFA and is injury prone. Not interested unless he's dirt cheap. Unlikely we can retain him if he has a bounce back year, and if he has another underwhelming, injury prone season I'm skeptical of shelling out big money to him.

We could always buy a year out of free agency as well. He is a gold glove CF and guys like Allen are a season away, but he hits from the right side (which we lack) and I am thinking he will have a bounce back year in 18. Though I can see the concerns as well but Arizona is looking to cut payroll a bit to upgrade the bullpen, it wouldn't surprise me if we can just move McAllister and like a 20s ranked prospect or lower for him. It's hard to say though since we did lose Shaw, if we want to move McAllister as well.

 

[Juice is Loose]

I’d move McAllister for pretty much anything. This is a sequence of McAllister pitching an at bat.

Fastball - fastball - fastball - little off the fastball - fastball fouled off - fastball - little off the fastball - base hit.

 

[kidduck]

From Jordan Bastian on the Tribe website:

Morrison's name popped up on Tuesday as a possibility for the Tribe via a report from MLB Network insider Ken Rosenthal, and the first baseman presents an interesting option.

Last season, Morrison made swing adjustments that led to a dramatic increase in power production. After posting a .416 slugging percentage and .741 OPS over the previous seven seasons, Morrison launched a career-high 38 homers with a .516 slugging and .868 OPS in 2017. Morrison went from having a 104 OPS+from 2010-16 (indicating he was 4 percent above league average) to a 135 OPS+ in '17.

That is quite a jump in production, and something the Indians would have to evaluate before trusting that the most recent results would be sustainable over a multiyear contract.

Antonetti did not comment on Morrison specifically, but he did say the Indians spent part of Tuesday morning discussing a player who had a career year, and whether it was an outlier or a sign of more to come.

"We spent an hour or two talking about that specific thing with a particular player," Antonetti said. "How do the changes in his mechanics affect the way we value him? Is it sustainable? Is it not? In one case, if a guy makes a change to get back to where he was, does that make us more optimistic about his future value? But we do spend a lot of time looking at those sorts of things."

 

[Derek]

I’d move McAllister for pretty much anything. This is a sequence of McAllister pitching an at bat.

Fastball - fastball - fastball - little off the fastball - fastball fouled off - fastball - little off the fastball - base hit.

As a reliever the last 4 years:

189.1 IP
210 K's
2.71 ERA

 

[sportscoach]

As a reliever the last 4 years:

189.1 IP
210 K's
2.71 ERA

He is a free agent after the season, so it’s possible we move him, but he has been a solid pitcher for us as well so it’s hard to say what to do. I think Goody will get his role increased, while both Armstrong and Merritt are out of options (at least I am pretty sure)

So right now we have Kluber, Carrasco, Bauer, Tomlin, Clev, Merritt, Salazar, Allen, Miller, Olson, Armstrong, Goody, McAllister, Otero all competing for the 12-13 spots. We are likely to resign Smith as well. So I think a trade from that list will happen.

I wouldn’t even be surprised if we move Salazar for Baez, Kipnis for someone and McAllister for Pollock happens this offseason.

I feel a trade will happen, just who is on the move is the question mark and is it a wise move as well will be the other question.

 

[CBBI]

As a reliever the last 4 years:

189.1 IP
210 K's
2.71 ERA

Good - but ultimately misleading - numbers because McAllister has pretty much only been used in low leverage situations where there hasn’t been much pressure.

44 career earned runs allowed in 38.1 career high leverage innings.

 

[Derek]

Good - but ultimately misleading - numbers because McAllister has pretty much only been used in low leverage situations where there hasn’t been much pressure.

44 career earned runs allowed in 38.1 career high leverage innings.

I don't put much, if any, stock in leverage splits.

But, if you want to be accurate, here's his high-leverage stats as a reliever.

22 IP
23 K
7 ER
2.86 ERA
.523 OPS against

 

[CBBI]

I don't put much, if any, stock in leverage splits.

But, if you want to be accurate, here's his high-leverage stats as a reliever.

22 IP
7 ER
2.86 ERA

Meh.

Career xFIP is a full run higher than his ERA and has actually been over 4 the last two years.

I just don’t think the guy is all that good. Blowing the bottom of the order away in the 8th when your team is down four runs is about what he’s shown to be capable of the last three years.

He’s not someone I would consider as a possible Shaw replacement, let’s put it that way.

 

[Chris]

I want to hear more about this Baez stuff?

 

[Derek]

Meh.

Career xFIP is a full run higher than his ERA and has actually been over 4 the last two years.

I just don’t think the guy is all that good. Blowing the bottom of the order away in the 8th when your team is down four runs is about what he’s shown to be capable of the last three years.

He’s not someone I would consider as a possible Shaw replacement, let’s put it that way.

Maybe if a guy's FIP is higher than his ERA for one year, even two, you could predict a regression to the mean. Over 4 years, it seems clear that McAllister is just an outlier to the method.

 

[Simon]

 

[sportscoach]

Meh.

Career xFIP is a full run higher than his ERA and has actually been over 4 the last two years.

I just don’t think the guy is all that good. Blowing the bottom of the order away in the 8th when your team is down four runs is about what he’s shown to be capable of the last three years.

He’s not someone I would consider as a possible Shaw replacement, let’s put it that way.

No one is actually expecting him to take Shaw’s role, if anything that’s one of the reasons why I expect Smith to be back in Cleveland next season. But McAllister is a solid bullpen arm that’s been fairly healthy the last few years. Every team needs a guy like McAllister on their roster