Cavs Summer League Team

[Lee]

I just realized that our summer league team will have 2 of our regular season starting lineup in it.
Sorta makes you realize how far we have to go.

Do you really think Broderic and Lamar both start?

 

[Futuredome]

Green vs Okoro would be real interesting.

fwiw, Kuminga is explosive as fook. Just watching some of his summer ball action. So raw, but my eyes didn't betray me. Barnes can't match that. Probably 2 seasons of little production and then his development catches up to the physical skills.

 

[sailfish]

I just realized that our summer league team will have 2 of our regular season starting lineup in it.
Sorta makes you realize how far we have to go.

Yes, it does. We’re kinda where we were in 2014, before Lebron decided to re-join the Cavs. We have a bunch of young guys that are developing and will flash occasionally. However, we’ll take our lumps against more experienced teams. We need another high lottery pick, to grab a SF with length & shoootng ability, then we should be ready to roll.

 

[2 For The Brew]

I just realized that our summer league team will have 2 of our regular season starting lineup in it.
Sorta makes you realize how far we have to go.

It always takes longer to do things correctly. This was a total rebuild using draft picks. With KLove being hurt we were effectively an expansion team. Nick Mileti said five years to get competitive and he was right.

The team has followed a clear plan:

- draft BPA to add talent
- avoid adding weak players who would consume future cap space
- keep that 23-24 cap space free except for quality players we want long term
- make opportunistic deals to add talent and short term vets who can help us
- build a culture of young hungry kids who bust ass in the gym and don’t cause problems.
- don’t stress over fit and roster construction early on. That can be adjusted with trades later. Focus on acquiring talent.

Whether one agrees with the above or not (and I emphatically do) it’s clear the team has a plan and has stuck to it.

KPJ had talent but he was a cultural problem so he had to go. Whether one agrees with that or not I respect that they made a decision they thought best for the team.

Drummond was a gamble but he only tied up cap space for a year.

Adding Allen and Prince was great. Prince had just one additional year of salary and we flipped that for Rubio - a guy who will help us at the point, teach the youngbloods by example and will be a great culture guy.

SexLand will eventually be broken up but they are both talented and assets.

I love Okoro. Many players would have said fuq summer league, I started last season but Isaac is a great kid who wants to learn. He’ll develop offensive skills to add to his athleticism and defensive prowess. It will take time, but I agree with Jimmy Butler.

Mobley - damn, we effectively got the #1 pick because Koby made it clear that’s his guy.

We have a long way to go in this process but we‘re on the right path and I’m happy to be patient while we develop our kids. We are so young. We all know most of the stars in this league are at least 25 years old. Not all of these kids will be with us in five years of course. But we have some exciting young talent and it’s going to be a treat to watch them grow as individuals and as a team.

 

[NMCav]

Green vs Okoro would be real interesting.

fwiw, Kuminga is explosive as fook. Just watching some of his summer ball action. So raw, but my eyes didn't betray me. Barnes can't match that. Probably 2 seasons of little production and then his development catches up to the physical skills.

Barnes doesn't need to match it. Kuminga even if he develops will never have the court vision and handles of Barnes. And oddly Barnes is further along as a shooter at this point. It's easy to stand out based on athletic traits alone in SL. Once you go against real nba competition is when the truth comes out. Or does no one remember Kevin Knox looking like a star in the 2018 summer league.

 

[kevincleveland]

Cedi looked good in summer league too

Barnes doesn't need to match it. Kuminga even if he develops will never have the court vision and handles of Barnes. And oddly Barnes is further along as a shooter at this point. It's easy to stand out based on athletic traits alone in SL. Once you go against real nba competition is when the truth comes out. Or does no one remember Kevin Knox looking like a star in the 2018 summer league.

Cedi looked good in summer league too

 

[Cavatt]

Barnes doesn't need to match it. Kuminga even if he develops will never have the court vision and handles of Barnes. And oddly Barnes is further along as a shooter at this point. It's easy to stand out based on athletic traits alone in SL. Once you go against real nba competition is when the truth comes out. Or does no one remember Kevin Knox looking like a star in the 2018 summer league.

Barnes is undoubtedly the better passer and can prob run an offense, but Kuminga clearly has vision. His handle isn't perfect, but looks decent. He's raw, but I think his passing/playmaking is better than most raw prospects and he looks for his teammates. 2.7 assists in 32 min a game is pretty good.

 

[Fish Monger]

Cedi looked good in summer league too

Cedi looked good in summer league too

But the real question is did Cedi look good in summer league too?

 

[Futuredome]

Kuminga has prime Jamesian explosion and power. You can just watch it. Barnes will never never have that. You guys just see a raw player. I see a potential future stud once his lack of time in basketball catches up and he feels more comfortable. Will he be as good as Lebron??? Probably not. But a top 100 all time player isn't a stretch.

 

[Sir'Dom Pointer]

Kuminga has prime Jamesian explosion and power. You can just watch it. Barnes will never never have that. You guys just see a raw player. I see a potential future stud once his lack of time in basketball catches up and he feels more comfortable. Will he be as good as Lebron??? Probably not. But a top 100 all time player isn't a stretch.

He doesn't have prime LeBron explosiveness. Not even close. Stop smoking that damn pot.

 

[Futuredome]

He doesn't have prime LeBron explosiveness. Not even close. Stop smoking that damn pot.

He certainly does. He sure doesn't have the playmaking ability Lebron has, and probably will never hit that level(few will), but he will be pretty solid. Just a real nice wing prospect with a slashing game to the hoop, some shooting as he matures and good defense. Can't ask much more of a wing than that. I think the Warriors would be nuts to trade him for a desperate win now move.

Compared to Wiggins, he is a superior physically gifted prospect.

 

[NMCav]

Kuminga has prime Jamesian explosion and power. You can just watch it. Barnes will never never have that. You guys just see a raw player. I see a potential future stud once his lack of time in basketball catches up and he feels more comfortable. Will he be as good as Lebron??? Probably not. But a top 100 all time player isn't a stretch.

Barnes doesn't need Jamesian explosion and power. He has court vision and handles Kuminga will never sniff and defensive instincts you can't teach. Kuminga is a pile of steaming trash.

 

[Futuredome]

Barnes doesn't need Jamesian explosion and power. He has court vision and handles Kuminga will never sniff and defensive instincts you can't teach. Kuminga is a pile of steaming trash.

handles can be taught. its like a QB's footwork. Defensive instincts are good with Kuminga as well. Just needs experience. I feel fear in your post.

 

[NMCav]

handles can be taught. its like a QB's footwork. Defensive instincts are good with Kuminga as well. Just needs experience. I feel fear in your post.

No fear. Why would I care? One is a Raptor the other one is a Warrior. Barnes is a much better player as of today and I don't see that changing. But it doesn't really matter to me if I'm wrong long term.

 

[foucault87]

Barnes doesn't need to match it. Kuminga even if he develops will never have the court vision and handles of Barnes. And oddly Barnes is further along as a shooter at this point. It's easy to stand out based on athletic traits alone in SL. Once you go against real nba competition is when the truth comes out. Or does no one remember Kevin Knox looking like a star in the 2018 summer league.

Never understood this. Didnt he average like 20 ppg while shooting under 40% from the field? How is that "star" like? Unless you are playing in the 60s or Allen Iverson, I don't want you shooting that poorly.