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Doesn't matter, Ubaldo still has an ERA over 4 this year so far....clearly hope is lost.

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Doesn't matter, Ubaldo is mentally beat up.. more hope is lost. I've also learned he owe's someone a apology.
 
I understand we didn't acquire a bat, but waiver season is just getting started. Maybe we get a bat by going that route. It's still up in the air right now.
 
Missing out on Ludwick isn't a big deal although at least right now it doesn't appear the Pirates had to give up a lot for him. The hitter I would have wanted the most out of the ones who wouldn't cost a ton to get was Francouer although it doesn't seem the Royals were actively looking to move him.

Still not 100% sold on the Jiminez trade. Quality starter but the Indians did have to give up a lot to get him. I just don't think as highly of him as others do. The price to get him was the price you pay for a surefire #1 ace and I don't think he's at that elite level. His 2010 season is way above any other season he's had and even that year he was dominant before the all star break and slipped after it.
He is a big addition and it was a very bold move to get him though. Have to wait and see how the Indians now do, what other moves they make along with how long he stays here and how Pomeranz and White develop. Wouldn't be thrilled of Jiminez is pitching for the Red Sox or Yankees in 2014 while Pomeranz and White are solid starters in Colorado.
 
I wonder who are potential right handed bats that could be waiver pickups

I'd love to find someone like the Giants found in Cody Ross last season
 
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Doesn't matter, Ubaldo is mentally beat up.. more hope is lost. I've also learned he owe's someone a apology.

Still trying these smartass comments? Wasn't the first terrible joke enough? I hate when people try so hard to be funny, and you can just tell they aren't at all. And I like Ubaldo, I just think there are concerns about his mental toughness, and you're just ignoring the facts if you don't think people in Colorado were concerned about that.
 
Still trying these smartass comments? Wasn't the first terrible joke enough? I hate when people try so hard to be funny, and you can just tell they aren't at all. And I like Ubaldo, I just think there are concerns about his mental toughness, and you're just ignoring the facts if you don't think people in Colorado were concerned about that.

I'm sure there are plenty of fans in Colorado, who aren't connected to Ubaldo, the coaching staff or management which feel that way....

But I don't really give a shit, because...you know...they're probably just like you.
 
I'm sure there are plenty of fans in Colorado, who aren't connected to Ubaldo, the coaching staff or management which feel that way....

But I don't really give a shit, because...you know...they're probably just like you.

No plenty of writers and people close to the organization felt there were character concerns there.
 
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Here is why I like Jimenez-- He has never pitched in the A.L. which means he hasn't faced many American League players. Although their are scouting reports, to actually hit against a guy in a different league may cause problems for opposing teams. The guy last year threw the ball 100mph and has proven he can win games. Although we gave up top prospects, I think a win now attitude is the right mantality. So unlike Cleveland. To win you must take risks. You can't always look at the what ifs.
 
Here is why I like Jimenez-- He has never pitched in the A.L. which means he hasn't faced many American League players. Although their are scouting reports, to actually hit against a guy in a different league may cause problems for opposing teams. The guy last year threw the ball 100mph and has proven he can win games. Although we gave up top prospects, I think a win now attitude is the right mantality. So unlike Cleveland. To win you must take risks. You can't always look at the what ifs.

It's a typo, but a fucking sweet one. If people start questioning what I'm doing, I'm going to tell them "It's just my man-tality."
 
Jimenez's four-seam fastball, nicknamed the "U-Ball", is frequently clocked as high as 100 mph, sometimes touching 101 mph, though his average four-seam fastball will typically register between 95–99 mph. Jimenez attains such velocity so frequently, in fact, that he is generally the hardest-throwing starting pitcher in baseball, having averaged a Major League best 96.1 mph during the 2009 and 2010 seasons.<sup id="cite_ref-25" class="reference">[26]</sup> Additionally, no one threw more pitches over 95 mph (1,342) than did Jimenez during the 2008 season.<sup id="cite_ref-26" class="reference">[27]</sup>
Jimenez's two-seam fastball exhibits strong "tailing" action (moving inside on a right-handed batter and away from a left-handed batter), as well as good "sinking" action, though not always by design. Velocity ranges from 93–95 mph, though sometimes reaching 96–98 mph. In 2008, Jimenez posted a very robust ground-ball percentage of 54.4%,<sup id="cite_ref-27" class="reference">[28]</sup> a testament to this pitch's effectiveness and making him an ideal pitcher for Coors Field, a ballpark known for extra-base hits.
Jimenez is known to throw a split-finger fastball and an occasional forkball, having deceptive downward movement in the 86–91 mph range.
The changeup thrown by Jimenez also exhibits strong "sinking" action, so much so that television commentators unfamiliar with Jimenez often have trouble distinguishing his change-up from a sinking fastball or a split-finger fastball. Jimenez varies the pitch by using both a circle changeup and traditional straight changeup grip. Typically thrown between 85–90 mph, the pitch will dive down and away from left-handed batters.
Jimenez's slider is usually thrown between 85–87 mph while reaching as high as 88–90 mph on occasion. This pitch fools batters with an unusually sharp, late break and is used second most in frequency behind his four-seam fastball. Batters often confuse this pitch with a fastball (the major league average for a fastball is approximately 91 mph)<sup id="cite_ref-28" class="reference">[29]</sup> and due to the tight, late-breaking movement of the pitch, are often unable to hit it.
The final pitch in Jimenez's arsenal is a looping curveball. Used infrequently, it is thrown anywhere between 75–85 mph and exhibits a traditional "12–6" break.
 

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