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Haslem set to meet with Cavs soon.

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haslem at 6 mil per is way too much. This is coming from the same people that say drew is expendable bc power forwards are a dime a dozen. Our solution is simple: sit tight at PF this year. Upgrade PG and the bench. If drew wants a big contract next year, then someone else can have him, as AV will be ready to start, even if unpolished. Haslem will not make us that much better. Shaq does help his game, that isn't debatable. If we get sarunas and z, our starting 5 will be great. If drew can't learn the defense, then AV will get more minutes. Simple. It would be nice to have some money free next year, so forget about haslem for 6 a year.
 
If we get an offensive PF like Donyell, then Drew would definatly have to be shipped out of here. We cannot have 2 offensive minded PF's subbing for each othere.

We need a banger, Haslem might fill that void if all he does is throw his body around.

Haslem/Gooden/AV

Haslem/Donyell/AV

Good rotation options, but we still lack size. This is frustrating.
 
Lets let Atlanta offer Curry a fat contract, then proceed to go in there and Offer a fat one to Chandler. I'd take him over haslem curry and gooden anyday of the week. He is a 7 foot who can block shots and rebound with the best of them.
 
I agree CavsDawgsTribe. Chandler would be the best of the bunch at power forward, plus he could give you some minutes at center backing up Z (assuming he is resigned). But I don't see how we do it financially as a straight-up free agent signing whilst resigning Z and signing a point guard. Maybe a sign and trade with Gooden and others?
 
Lets let Atlanta offer Curry a fat contract, then proceed to go in there and Offer a fat one to Chandler. I'd take him over haslem curry and gooden anyday of the week. He is a 7 foot who can block shots and rebound with the best of them.

I completely agree with this idea. But, it's not as easy as it seems.

Chicago has 33 million in guaranteed contracts next season. Meaning they'll have around 16 mil to work with, not bad.

If Atlanta throws a huge number at Curry, say something averaging 12 mil, so it'll start at around 10, Chicago might not even bother matching. They're just as smart as any other GM out there and know he might not be worth that much. Paxson should also figure that Chandler has much more upside than Curry. They simply have to sign Chandler to near the max that they can offer, and hope nobody bites Curry so they can lowball him.

Chicago is sticky though, they have a pretty complete team even without Curry. So it's not that big of a loss for them. And Atlanta seems dumb enough to offer Curry a lot, as they always are.

Right now they have to make the decision whether it's worth it to keep Curry long term or to have flexibility for the future. Chandler starting at 8-9 mil, Duhon signed at 3-4 mil: 2 mil left in cap space. They always have next season with Antonio Davis coming off the books (13.9 mil), but that's the decision: Keep Curry with an inflated contract for 3-4 years and hope he balls, or start over at that position with the flexibility.
 
ummm. we aint getting tyson chandler.. the bulls will match.

especially if the hawks get curry, they are not losing both those guys..
 
Well, I still think that Chandler isn't worth the money that will be handed to him. He just doesn't have what it takes for me to accept that he is worth this much money. Just my thoughts, you've got yours. Because in my eyes Chandler don't do shit for the Bulls!
 
Thats why we are hoping that the Hawks have it matched, they have 6 mill left we have around 16 left and walk over smack Paxson in the face and say thanks for Chandler. Then we can get Sarunas for 3 so around 11 or 12 on Chandler and Sarunas we have 4 or 5 mill left allowing us to go get someone like Marshall for a SF spot off the bench or for SAR or maybe cuttino some vet off teh bench. And boom we are a title contender..
 
Chandler will be a Chicago Bull next season, period!
 
Yeah, probably but hey it's the summer anything is possible lol I think we all like to dream :D
 
CavsDawgsTribe said:
Yeah, probably but hey it's the summer anything is possible lol I think we all like to dream :D
Yeah, The Almighty Norway came back to the board this summer, so this has to be the summer of oppertunties! :king:
I'm out for today, the night in Norway is sneaking up on me...
 
We're still limited as to who we can sign. If you consider $12 million for Hughes, 9 for Z and 3 for Sarunas, that will leave $4 million left in cap space to make moves. The Cavs aren't getting Marshall, Haslem or Chandler for that. The Bulls can also go over the cap to resign Curry and Chandler.
The Cavs will probably just be able to try to fill out their bench with the money they have left.

The only other way to make a big signing would be to trade Gooden and take little to no salary back in return.

Gooden could still end up as the Cavs starting PF next year. I'd be ok with that despite whether he's still the best fit there or not. The Cavs aren't going to fill every spot or get their exact team in place for the future in 1 offseason.
 
eh I dont want Gooden back...period...he doesn't fit we need a bangin rebounding defender to become a contender.
 
Here's a good read I swiped from the Browns board, DawgTalk (hehe):

Cavaliers Reportedly Interested In Acquiring Udonis Haslem
Filed under: Rumor Mill— Amar Panchmatia @ 3:08 am

One of the few good moves made by outgoing general manager Jim Paxson was the one he made last year in replacing his own blunder in allowing Carlos Boozer to escape. Paxson traded backup center Tony Battie, acquired in the Ricky Davis trade of December ‘03, along with two second-round draft picks to Orlando for freshly-drafted Anderson Varejao, Drew Gooden, and center Steven Hunter. Of course, Paxson couldn’t come out of his own good move 100 percent successful, as he waived Hunter shortly afterward. Hunter was a key reserve on a Phoenix team that won 62 games, so as lopsided as the deal was, Paxson was unable to save himself from his own ineptitude once again.

Regardless of that, Gooden went on to put up a career year with 14.4 points and 9.2 rebounds on 49.2 percent shooting. Gooden was also 80+ percent from the free throw line, but he developed the reputation of being soft, inconsistent, and immature. He was a score-first power forward when he arrived in Cleveland, and outgoing head coach Paul Silas asked him to focus more on defense and crashing the boards, and the scoring would come later. Gooden transformed himself into a phenomenal player, putting together a near All-Star season and showing that, after being traded twice in his young career and playing for his third team in as many years, he may have found a permanent home in Cleveland. Varejao, however, was his challenger for that power forward spot. A fan-favorite, the wild-haired Brazilian did all the things that the Cavs wanted from the 4-spot, which didn’t include scoring.

Gooden’s blunt basketball acumen and low hoops IQ (based on watching him play 82 games last year) may have helped him wear out his welcome in Cleveland. Those 14.4 points and 9.2 boards may be misleading, as many of them came in garbage time or at times when the game was already won or lost. He showed flashes of brilliance near the end of the season, but the fact of the matter is that he is not the rebound-first, defensive-minded, blue collar power forward that the Cavs want to put next to center Zydrunas Ilgauskas. And yes, the team is trying hard to bring back the 7′3″, All-Star center as a top priority.

Udonis Haslem, however, is that kind of power forward the Cavs have been yearning for since losing Boozer. Haslem is a hard worker, much like Boozer, partly because both of them were slighted on draft day. While Boozer, a star at Duke University, fell to 35th overall in the 2002 selection, Haslem never heard his name called at all in that very same draft and ended up playing for Chalon Sur-Saone in France in 2002-03. As a 22-year old coming off of a superstar career at the University of Florida, he put in the hard work to get him an NBA contract with his hometown Miami Heat. With Miami’s frontcourt set with Brian Grant, Lamar Odom, and Caron Butler, Haslem saw minutes as a reserve. And his play turned heads, enough to garner more minutes. He finished his rookie year with 7.3 points and 6.3 boards on 45.9 percent shooting in 23.9 minutes a game. Many thought his 6′8″, 230-pound frame would be too undersized to play effectively at power forward, but Haslem showed he can bang bodies with the best of them. It wasn’t truer than it was the following year in ‘04-’05, when the Heat traded their whole frontcourt for Shaquille O’Neal and made Haslem the starter at power forward. In the final year of his contract, the forward put up 10.9 points and 9.1 rebounds on an astounding 54 percent shooting. His field goal percentage ranked fourth in the league while his rebounds were at 14th. He had made his mark in the league, just as Boozer had done a year ago. And, like Boozer was, Haslem is a restricted free agent on a team that is capped out with nothing more than the mid-level exception to offer him, with a team loaded with cap space is knocking on his door.

The Miami Herald reported on Saturday that the Cavs are interested in Haslem. The Heat, fresh off of an Eastern Conference-best 59-23 finish and a game away from their first NBA Finals berth, can only offer Haslem a 5-year, $33 million deal at the mid-level exception since they do not have his full “Bird Rights” (Haslem has only played two season for Miami). The Cavs can sign him to an offer sheet for much more than that and put Miami in a serious bind, much like they themselves were with Boozer last year. The Heat would either have to forfeit their entire mid-level exception and cap flexibility to keep Haslem or bulldoze their roster to make the needed room. Either way, the likelihood of that happening wouldn’t be as high as a Miami fan would like to believe.

Putting Haslem, a good rebounder who isn’t looking to score points in bunches, next to Ilgauskas up front would be perfect for the Cavaliers. LeBron James would be option #1, newly acquired shooting guard Larry Hughes would be option #2, and “Z” would be option #3. Haslem wouldn’t need to score more than 10 points a game. If he focuses on getting 11-12 rebounds per game and playing good defense with new head coach Mike Brown’s system, then he will have earned the hefty paycheck that may be coming his way from Dan Gilbert’s endless checkbook.

Also, the Cavs would likely move Gooden and his $4.1 million salary after acquiring Haslem and keeping Ilgauskas, probably for a first-round pick in next year’s draft. With the additional cap space, the Cavs may sign Heat point guard Damon Jones, an unrestricted free agent. Jones canned 225 three-pointers last year, a career-high and third best in the league. While many want to attribute his success to playing with Shaq and Dwyane Wade, don’t believe for a minute that playing with LeBron, Z, and Hughes would hurt that one bit. And, by the way, Haslem would be his power forward again. Jones, a 29-year old point guard who just turned down a $2.5 million player option to test the market, hit 98 treys a year before in Milwaukee. He would fill two needs for the Cavs: a starting point guard with veteran experience and a solid perimeter scorer. Although Jones is coming off of a career year, it would be wise to take a gamble on him with a big pay day. Personally, I think it would work. He seems to have his head on straight, unlike Jeff McInnis, and his journeyman status has made him a better player. Don’t count on him tanking it in Cleveland, or else LeBron will remind him of this.

Speaking of LeBron, my main man Brian Windhorst at the Akron Beacon Journal had a nice tidbit in Sunday’s paper. Brian’s a big-time Cavs insider, so I think he knows what he’s talking about. Check it out:

“Many fans were frustrated last week that Redd returned to the last-place Milwaukee Bucks despite having the chance to come back home to Ohio and play with LeBron James. Well, the $20-some million difference between the offers was understandably the difference-maker. Keep those special rules to protect the incumbent team in mind in two years, when James is a free agent and the Cavaliers will be able to offer significantly more money to keep him. Contrary to numerous media reports, James’ Nike contract does not have a kicker in it to increase his compensation if he plays in New York, Los Angeles or Chicago. Some of his other endorsement deals do, but they represent much, much less than he can get by re-signing for a max contract in Cleveland. Not to mention he’s restricted, and the Cavaliers can match any offer.”

Sorry, Isiah. You too, Jay-Z. And Dr. Buss.

Larry Hughes may be the first step in a great direction, as well.
 
Any set date on the Calander that he is coming in to Cleveland? And any intention on Miami's part to match it if we offer him that?
 

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