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The left is notorious for politicizing tragedies at the drop of a hat. When they do it, it's supposedly because they truly care about victims. Now the shoe is on the other foot and suddenly the right shouldn't be so quick to bring politics into it. Sorry, but what's good for the goose is good for the gander. If the self-righteous left weren't so douchey and political about EVERYTHING, then maybe now they wouldn't have nearly as much egg on their collective face.

This is a really dumb take.

1) The right also politicizes tragedies. How you're able to discern this as a left/right issue is mind boggling. What do you think happens after any Islamic terrorist attack?

2) What does this Hollywood scandal have to do with politics or the left in general? Because Hollywood is mostly liberal? You do realize that it's the liberal press that exposed this scandal? And the fact that Hollywood gets constant criticism from the left on issues of sexism and racism?

3) Love the idea that the right-wing: home of the patriots, God-lovers, and military-respecters, somehow isn't self-righteous as fuck.

I didn't see these kind of condemnations from the right against Bill O'Reilly or Roger Ailes...
 
Donald should have laid into her and Bill far harder than he did during the campaign.

Why? He won.

Besides, you know who we're talking about there... Trump is the worst qualified GOPer to take on rape culture as he is an active participant. The positive with Hillary on those counts is that she doesn't support awful policies against women like Trump and the rest of the GOP.
 
This is a really dumb take.

1) The right also politicizes tragedies. How you're able to discern this as a left/right issue is mind boggling. What do you think happens after any Islamic terrorist attack?

2) What does this Hollywood scandal have to do with politics or the left in general? Because Hollywood is mostly liberal? You do realize that it's the liberal press that exposed this scandal? And the fact that Hollywood gets constant criticism from the left on issues of sexism and racism?

3) Love the idea that the right-wing: home of the patriots, God-lovers, and military-respecters, somehow isn't self-righteous as fuck.

I didn't see these kind of condemnations from the right against Bill O'Reilly or Roger Ailes...
Jimmy Kimmel immediately and egregiously politicized the Vegas shooting as the left crowned him the king of morals.
 
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When Hillary's husband did that same kind of shit Weinstein did to other women, she told them to shut their cakeholes and deal with it. She's scum.

Donald should have laid into her and Bill far harder than he did during the campaign.

Donald Trump is no better than Clinton or Weinstein though...
 
Jimmy Kimmel immediately and egregiously politicized the Vegas shooting as the left crowed him the king of morals.

Didn't Kimmel argue that we need strict gun control to prevent gun crime? What's the analogous political argument or policy proposal here with respect to women being raped by Harvey Weinstein?
 
Let's .. just play this out for a second, shall we?

Rosario Dawson comes out and says "Systemic racism exists in America; We need Universal Health Care for All; College tuition should be free at state schools."

Now, she's obviously on the "Collective Left," and within Hollywood. So, the retort to her now is "You're responsible for the rape of 11 year old Corey Haim, so don't talk about these liberal issues?"

...

Does that make any sense at all? I mean, politicizing rape? And using these incidents and this problem within Hollywood to shout down left-wing causes?

That just doesn't make sense to me man...
No, it's like this...

A tragic school shooting happens. Both Republicans and Democrats are deeply saddened at the senseless loss of innocent life. Within hours, numerous people on the left start calling for stricter gun legislation even though said legislation wouldn't have done anything to prevent or lessen the tragedy that just occurred. When people on the right call them out for their immediate politicizing, those on the left retort that those on the right just don't care about children.

A tragic scandal of child sexual abuse by one Hollywood elite makes the news. The breaking of the story brings to light a shady underbelly of Hollywood where not only does more of this behavior occur, but it's one in which the very people who claim moral superiority in cases like the school shooting were aware of its existence and scope for decades, and yet only now when the story hits the front page do they start speaking out about it. Those on the right bring up these facts and suddenly those on the left claim they are being too quick to politicize this tragedy.

That just screams hypocrisy and the left is being justifiably called on it, in my opinion.
 
No, it's like this...

A tragic school shooting happens. Both Republicans and Democrats are deeply saddened at the senseless loss of innocent life. Within hours, numerous people on the left start calling for stricter gun legislation even though said legislation wouldn't have done anything to prevent or lessen the tragedy that just occurred. When people on the right call them out for their immediate politicizing, those on the left retort that those on the right just don't care about children.

Well, I'm not sure I agree with the analogy here. First off, you know my position on gun control; I'm to the right of most of the board (if not all of it). But with that being said, the left's argument is that stricter gun controls would lead to less gun-related crime. I think, empirically, that's a fairly concise and reasonable argument.

As a gun rights advocate, I'm not going to essentially deflect or disingenuously argue that specific gun bans wouldn't reduce the potential for crime using those guns -- nor would I argue that an outright gun ban, like that in Japan, wouldn't save thousands of lives every year. I accept both of these statements as the most likely outcome.

Moreover, I don't think it's politicization when liberals remind the country about gun laws at times of gun-related tragedy -- and keep in mind, I'm not suggesting this topic is such a tragedy that we can't talk about reforms, I'm asking what those reforms have to do with left/right politics?

A tragic scandal of child sexual abuse by one Hollywood elite makes the news. The breaking of the story brings to light a shady underbelly of Hollywood where not only does more of this behavior occur,

Not to parse statements, but "More of this behavior occur" ... more than where?

but it's one in which the very people who claim moral superiority in cases like the school shooting were aware of its existence and scope for decades, and yet only now when the story hits the front page do they start speaking out about it.

Yes, and that's definitely a problem -- but look at how that problem is being weaponized to delegitimize righteous causes of the liberal agenda? Don't you see that as more than just a bit disingenuous?

Those on the right bring up these facts and suddenly those on the left claim they are being too quick to politicize this tragedy.

Believe me when I say, I'm not arguing about there being a right time and place -- I don't care about anything like that. I'm asking how does Harvey Weinstein being a rapist have anything to do with the liberal agenda?

That just screams hypocrisy and the left is being justifiably called on it, in my opinion.

Sure, but "by the left?" Or by imperfect people in Hollywood who are being used as props to draw false equivalence? That is to say, Ben Affleck fondled a woman's breasts on national TV, ergo, don't listen to Dianne Feinstein about gun control legislation?
 
No, it's like this...

A tragic school shooting happens. Both Republicans and Democrats are deeply saddened at the senseless loss of innocent life. Within hours, numerous people on the left start calling for stricter gun legislation even though said legislation wouldn't have done anything to prevent or lessen the tragedy that just occurred. When people on the right call them out for their immediate politicizing, those on the left retort that those on the right just don't care about children.

A tragic scandal of child sexual abuse by one Hollywood elite makes the news. The breaking of the story brings to light a shady underbelly of Hollywood where not only does more of this behavior occur, but it's one in which the very people who claim moral superiority in cases like the school shooting were aware of its existence and scope for decades, and yet only now when the story hits the front page do they start speaking out about it. Those on the right bring up these facts and suddenly those on the left claim they are being too quick to politicize this tragedy.

But the left is talking about that too... ???

I'm not gonna sit here and defend Hollywood or the various hypocritical celebrities that making their living there. But if you're trying to shit on the left as a whole because of this, I don't really understand.

I mean, the Weinstein scandal exposes a lot of issues about how long someone in power can get away with this shit. Once it came to light and couldn't be overlooked any more, the man was fired from his own company. What happened when this shit came up for Donald Trump? He was elected president. I'm not saying the situations are the exact same or the left deserves praise, but this idea that the right can claim victory on this shit is ridiculous.

People on the left (not uniformly obviously) have been screaming at Hollywood about their hypocrisy for decades. It seems like the right only cares about sexual assault when it makes the left look bad.

Tell me, who's coming out to defend Weinstein? Anyone? Any big lefties stepping in to say he was a good guy...

"What he's done on television, is in the history of television, he's gotta be placed in the top three, or four, or five, and that includes the founding of the major networks," Trump said ABOUT AILES. "So it's too bad. I'm sure it was friendly."

EDIT: Added that the quote is in reference to Ailes in case that seemed misleading. Trump is not defending Weinstein, no one is.
 
Sigh....

I can see, just from the comments/likes and of course the stupid ass disagrees, that this conversation has warped into the team sports of low-brow politics.

A conversation about people being raped and sexually assaulted...

SMH...
 
I agree that a lot of the progressive talk out of Hollywood is a shallow charade. Weinstein is likely the tip of the iceberg and this kinda shit has been an open secret for a long time. There will be no shortage of hypocritical indictments made.

That being said, look no further than Fox News to realize that a conservative takeover in the entertainment business isn't somehow an antidote to this poison.
 

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