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That starting lineup has potential...Doncic, three wings (Matthews, Barnes, Finney-Smith) who space the floor, and lob target DeAndre Jordan. Had the Celtics scrambling from the opening tip.

The Ringer's take on that lineup and the Luka Doncic/Dennis Smith fit problem:

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2018/11/27/18114406/dallas-mavericks-luka-doncic-dennis-smith

"Doncic might be sacrificing more than Smith when the two play together. That became clear in the Mavs’ 113-104 victory over the Celtics on Saturday, which Smith missed with a wrist injury. His absence allowed Carlisle to go to a lineup he hasn’t used much this season: Luka at point guard with three bigger wings (Matthews, Barnes, and Dorian Finney-Smith) and one center (Jordan) around him. Dallas switched more screens on defense while hunting mismatches with Doncic in the pick-and-roll. Doncic finished with a career-high eight assists, picking apart Boston out of the post.

That was Doncic’s role last season as an 18-year-old for Real Madrid, when he was the MVP of the EuroLeague. A 6-foot-7 player with his ability to handle the ball, shoot off the dribble, and make plays on the move gives his team a lot of lineup flexibility. They can surround him with length and athleticism in bigger lineups, or play him with multiple ball handlers in smaller ones. Carlisle has been using Doncic in the latter to maximize Smith, but the former would make Doncic’s life easier, particularly on defense.

It might not be possible for the Mavs to prioritize Doncic and Smith at the same time. Doncic has a net rating of minus-5.5 in 405 minutes with Smith and plus-10.3 in 202 minutes without him. One solution that a lot of NBA teams use is staggering the minutes of their two lead ball handlers to give each time to run the offense unimpeded. The problem for Dallas is that giving Smith more time with the second unit would mean playing him next to another point guard (Barea) who needs the ball even more than Doncic. Smith and Barea were like oil and water last season, with a net rating of minus-7.7 in 395 minutes together.

The Mavs are caught in a dilemma. There’s no spot in the rotation for Smith if they play Doncic at point guard, but they can’t afford to give up on Smith, either. The long-term consequences are too high. Their cupboard is almost completely empty without him."​
 
The Ringer's take on that lineup and the Luka Doncic/Dennis Smith fit problem:

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2018/11/27/18114406/dallas-mavericks-luka-doncic-dennis-smith

"Doncic might be sacrificing more than Smith when the two play together. That became clear in the Mavs’ 113-104 victory over the Celtics on Saturday, which Smith missed with a wrist injury. His absence allowed Carlisle to go to a lineup he hasn’t used much this season: Luka at point guard with three bigger wings (Matthews, Barnes, and Dorian Finney-Smith) and one center (Jordan) around him. Dallas switched more screens on defense while hunting mismatches with Doncic in the pick-and-roll. Doncic finished with a career-high eight assists, picking apart Boston out of the post.

That was Doncic’s role last season as an 18-year-old for Real Madrid, when he was the MVP of the EuroLeague. A 6-foot-7 player with his ability to handle the ball, shoot off the dribble, and make plays on the move gives his team a lot of lineup flexibility. They can surround him with length and athleticism in bigger lineups, or play him with multiple ball handlers in smaller ones. Carlisle has been using Doncic in the latter to maximize Smith, but the former would make Doncic’s life easier, particularly on defense.

It might not be possible for the Mavs to prioritize Doncic and Smith at the same time. Doncic has a net rating of minus-5.5 in 405 minutes with Smith and plus-10.3 in 202 minutes without him. One solution that a lot of NBA teams use is staggering the minutes of their two lead ball handlers to give each time to run the offense unimpeded. The problem for Dallas is that giving Smith more time with the second unit would mean playing him next to another point guard (Barea) who needs the ball even more than Doncic. Smith and Barea were like oil and water last season, with a net rating of minus-7.7 in 395 minutes together.

The Mavs are caught in a dilemma. There’s no spot in the rotation for Smith if they play Doncic at point guard, but they can’t afford to give up on Smith, either. The long-term consequences are too high. Their cupboard is almost completely empty without him."​

Trade Smith for Beal: problem solved
 
Don't see how Smith coexists with Wall. And that fucking supermax contract makes Wall untradeable.
 
The Ringer's take on that lineup and the Luka Doncic/Dennis Smith fit problem:

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2018/11/27/18114406/dallas-mavericks-luka-doncic-dennis-smith

"Doncic might be sacrificing more than Smith when the two play together. That became clear in the Mavs’ 113-104 victory over the Celtics on Saturday, which Smith missed with a wrist injury. His absence allowed Carlisle to go to a lineup he hasn’t used much this season: Luka at point guard with three bigger wings (Matthews, Barnes, and Dorian Finney-Smith) and one center (Jordan) around him. Dallas switched more screens on defense while hunting mismatches with Doncic in the pick-and-roll. Doncic finished with a career-high eight assists, picking apart Boston out of the post.

That was Doncic’s role last season as an 18-year-old for Real Madrid, when he was the MVP of the EuroLeague. A 6-foot-7 player with his ability to handle the ball, shoot off the dribble, and make plays on the move gives his team a lot of lineup flexibility. They can surround him with length and athleticism in bigger lineups, or play him with multiple ball handlers in smaller ones. Carlisle has been using Doncic in the latter to maximize Smith, but the former would make Doncic’s life easier, particularly on defense.

It might not be possible for the Mavs to prioritize Doncic and Smith at the same time. Doncic has a net rating of minus-5.5 in 405 minutes with Smith and plus-10.3 in 202 minutes without him. One solution that a lot of NBA teams use is staggering the minutes of their two lead ball handlers to give each time to run the offense unimpeded. The problem for Dallas is that giving Smith more time with the second unit would mean playing him next to another point guard (Barea) who needs the ball even more than Doncic. Smith and Barea were like oil and water last season, with a net rating of minus-7.7 in 395 minutes together.

The Mavs are caught in a dilemma. There’s no spot in the rotation for Smith if they play Doncic at point guard, but they can’t afford to give up on Smith, either. The long-term consequences are too high. Their cupboard is almost completely empty without him."​

Partly agree, though I don't think it's reasonable to say that they "can't afford to give up on Smith." They absolutely can afford to give up on Smith if he's not fitting with Doncic...it's the smart thing to do. They have loads of cap flexibility going forward that will help them put the right pieces around Doncic.
 
They should be able to get something for Smith.

But I think it's too early to give up on Smith, they are ahead of schedule on the rebuild and can afford to experiment some more.
 
They should be able to get something for Smith.

But I think it's too early to give up on Smith, they are ahead of schedule on the rebuild and can afford to experiment some more.

There's no problem with them taking some time to experiment, and if they trade Smith they should of course try to get the best deal possible. I just think it's weird to say they're "caught in a dilemma" or anything like that. They just hit a fucking home run with Doncic...that's the opposite of a dilemma. If Smith ends up fitting with Doncic that's icing on the cake; if not they have plenty of flexibility to explore other options.
 
Trade Smith for Beal: problem solved

Washington ain’t doing that absurd trade if u were Dallas if trade smith but they’ll probably wait. They should trade Barnes for Otto Porter though, he’d fit better with Smith/Luka being a spot up non dominant player. Barnes is more iso heavy than target Vucavic in the offseason
 
Nobody needed the benefit of hindsight to see the kings fucked up again royally taking Bagley over Doncic. It would be interesting to see if Fox and doncic would be having the same issues though. Fox is a better player than smith, but they have similarities.
 
Nobody needed the benefit of hindsight to see the kings fucked up again royally taking Bagley over Doncic. It would be interesting to see if Fox and doncic would be having the same issues though. Fox is a better player than smith, but they have similarities.

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Nobody needed the benefit of hindsight to see the kings fucked up again royally taking Bagley over Doncic. It would be interesting to see if Fox and doncic would be having the same issues though. Fox is a better player than smith, but they have similarities.

No doubt "Fucked up again royally" is their slogan for next year :chuckle:
 
Mavs just beat the Clippers, despite Doncic not playing. Luka is day-to-day, he has been having some jaw cramps lately:

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