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Yi to Bucks: "Go to hell"
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I hadn't seen this thread until page 5. I read through it expectating that I'd be piling on with my feelings and I'm shocked nobody has said this already.
I'm 100% with the Bucks and the city of Milwaukee on this one. We may be winning now, but let's not forget the past or we could have the same thing happen to us the next time we're in a down cycle. We nned to be rooting for the Bucks right now. For teams in small markets, especially in cold weather cities, it's completely unacceptable for prospects who are fortunate enough to be eligible for the draft to think they should be able to hand pick their destination. It's called the 'draft'. Where you play is determined by who selects you. If it was called the 'pick the most marketable destination process', every guy in the league would flock towards LA, NY, and Chicago. Once a guy puts his name in, how can any of us revel in the fact that he is trying to use the threat of not honoring the pick as leverage to force the team that selected him to do something they don't want to do? He hasn't even contributed one minute of entertaining NBA basketball yet. And if he really puts playing in a city with a Chinese population ahead of respecting the integrity of the league, well then here's a novel idea... stay in China and don't get the millions the NBA has to offer.
If you want to control where you go as a basketball prospect don't enter the draft, and sign a free agent contract like anthony parker, like oberto, like jasekivicius. but wait.... no.... that wouldn't get the free exposure that getting picked at the top of the draft gets you to help jump start your marketing/endorsement career. Yi didn't have a problem capitalizing on the combine and mock draft hype that put his name out there.
If Yi or anyone intends to play in the NBA via way of the draft, they should honor the process. Bad teams are given better choices to try to maintain a level playing field. It's so we all have a chance to win titles. The one consolation for sucking is knowing that your team has a chance to find the best talent and use that player to help turn around their fortunes. If we're reveling in what is happening to the Bucks, we're essentially supporting more guys going to large market teams and leaving the Milwaukees and Cleveland's of the world threadbare because the off-the-court opportunities exist elsewhere.
If Yi doesn't want to play in Milwaukee, fine. In four years relocate. But right now, he should have two options that we as fans tolerate. Suck it up and give it your all for the opportunity to make millions playing for an NBA team in the best league in the world, or sign a deal under the radar without declaring for the draft so that you have the reasonable expectation as a player to pick your destination.
Guys like Eli Manning, and Yi need to be taught a lesson about entitlement and gratitude. Professional sports is about the competition, and the competition suffers when the player's interests come first. I for one would love to see the Cavs and other small market teams who know what it's like to be spurned due to weather or market size band together, stand behinds the Bucks and show these entitled douchebags that the player can't dictate the actions of the team. Whether it's the suits/agents dictating it or not, if Yi doesn't have the personal integrity to honor the pick, then I will never root for him or respect him as a player or a man.
I'm 100% with the Bucks and the city of Milwaukee on this one. We may be winning now, but let's not forget the past or we could have the same thing happen to us the next time we're in a down cycle. We nned to be rooting for the Bucks right now. For teams in small markets, especially in cold weather cities, it's completely unacceptable for prospects who are fortunate enough to be eligible for the draft to think they should be able to hand pick their destination. It's called the 'draft'. Where you play is determined by who selects you. If it was called the 'pick the most marketable destination process', every guy in the league would flock towards LA, NY, and Chicago. Once a guy puts his name in, how can any of us revel in the fact that he is trying to use the threat of not honoring the pick as leverage to force the team that selected him to do something they don't want to do? He hasn't even contributed one minute of entertaining NBA basketball yet. And if he really puts playing in a city with a Chinese population ahead of respecting the integrity of the league, well then here's a novel idea... stay in China and don't get the millions the NBA has to offer.
If you want to control where you go as a basketball prospect don't enter the draft, and sign a free agent contract like anthony parker, like oberto, like jasekivicius. but wait.... no.... that wouldn't get the free exposure that getting picked at the top of the draft gets you to help jump start your marketing/endorsement career. Yi didn't have a problem capitalizing on the combine and mock draft hype that put his name out there.
If Yi or anyone intends to play in the NBA via way of the draft, they should honor the process. Bad teams are given better choices to try to maintain a level playing field. It's so we all have a chance to win titles. The one consolation for sucking is knowing that your team has a chance to find the best talent and use that player to help turn around their fortunes. If we're reveling in what is happening to the Bucks, we're essentially supporting more guys going to large market teams and leaving the Milwaukees and Cleveland's of the world threadbare because the off-the-court opportunities exist elsewhere.
If Yi doesn't want to play in Milwaukee, fine. In four years relocate. But right now, he should have two options that we as fans tolerate. Suck it up and give it your all for the opportunity to make millions playing for an NBA team in the best league in the world, or sign a deal under the radar without declaring for the draft so that you have the reasonable expectation as a player to pick your destination.
Guys like Eli Manning, and Yi need to be taught a lesson about entitlement and gratitude. Professional sports is about the competition, and the competition suffers when the player's interests come first. I for one would love to see the Cavs and other small market teams who know what it's like to be spurned due to weather or market size band together, stand behinds the Bucks and show these entitled douchebags that the player can't dictate the actions of the team. Whether it's the suits/agents dictating it or not, if Yi doesn't have the personal integrity to honor the pick, then I will never root for him or respect him as a player or a man.
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A Mac aka The Truth said:
And yet, despite Jackasses like you I was never onboard with the Lebron to NY propaganda. I stated on this board that Lebron belonged in Cleveland and have looooong been an advocate for small markets.
Filmed any video of yourself taking some plodding fatty to the cup lately? Weak.
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You were never on the LeBron to NY because you were always on the LeBron to Milwaukee bandwagon...
How bout them Brewers?? Here come the Cubs!!!!!!!!
How bout them Brewers?? Here come the Cubs!!!!!!!!
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Milwaukee make Cleveland look like Hawaii. Daaaaaaaaaa time after time Ive heard people from all marks of the NBA say how bad of a stop it is in Milwaukee, "the worst stop of the year."
The Cavs and us fans cant want a player who plays in your crap hole city??? He did play at OSU remember.
Even without Redd the Cavs got to the Finals when your horrible season got you some asain named Yi who I think will be hideous. There is no way this guy will be a good player, hes from freaking China. Daaaaaaaaaaaaa
The Cavs and us fans cant want a player who plays in your crap hole city??? He did play at OSU remember.
Even without Redd the Cavs got to the Finals when your horrible season got you some asain named Yi who I think will be hideous. There is no way this guy will be a good player, hes from freaking China. Daaaaaaaaaaaaa
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Todd Day's thoughts once again...:chuckles:
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More Yi reports from "inside" of China....(Chinese Fan)
6/29/07
- YI's agent is not happy and will try to force BUCKS to trade his client.
- YI's old ball club manager said the result was not surprising. He expected that outcome.
- He said, the way YI negotiated deal would be different from Yao and Wang, because YI's old ball club management would play a fair role in YI's signing. He does expect YI to play for BUCKS next season, not returning back to the CBA team.
- Fans' reactions are mixed. Some believed Milwaukee as a big farm city, see Milwaukee as a WEAK team. But some see YI would enjoy lighter competition in the EASTERN Conference, allowing him to develop his game nicely here.
- YI said that himself. He would attend BUCKS camp on time. Work hard for the minutes (get the starting job). And looking forward to compete against YAO on the court. Nice attitude!
7/1/07
- Yao commented on Yi's situation. But not much of info. He said that was Yi and his agent's business, he got no control of it. Then he said, No.6 pick was a good result for YI. YI should be happy with the selection. Also, he said after YI was picked, Yao called YI. Yao said, he could tell YI was in a good and happy mood, not fault mood that ppl reported on the newspaper.
- more and more ppl on the China forum getting on the BUCKS bandwagon. They start digging into information above Milwaukee, realizing that Mil is actually 23rd largest city in US.
- more and more ppl building bad rep on Yi's agent and also Yi. They like Yi and his agent stop all the bull**** and play for BUCKS.
- another comment from ppl in China, you all may find it offensive but that is the culture difference. ppl do not like green color. WHY?? because when your wife cheat on you, everyone will say you are "Wearing GREEN hat". So green hat is a big time taboo in China. So BUCKS better get a series of RED hat for china market. Do not laugh. It is true! (For me, I am Chinese, I do not give a damn, I love my green bucks cap and green packer cap!!!!!)
7/2/07
- News reported Yi's agent is pushing Philly to make the trade again. Philly is willing to part with anyone on its team, excepting Ilgudala (not sure spelling, too lazy to check!)
- Fegan keeps saying the worst case for YI is to play CBA in china next year. BUT, Yi's CBA manager said YI would not come back playing for CBA for sure. Clearly, Fegan is buffing! Harry, u need to hold your ground.
- My view. There is a lot of money involve with Yi's signing. A lot of ppl in China will get a share of YI's money, his CBA team, CBA manager, China Sports Commission, Chinese government (tax) etc. They will be pissed if Fegan screwed up the deal and not getting YI to sign. At least some money from Milwaukee is better than nothing. As such, I believe Fegan's stupid behavior will eventually get himself fired. Harris, if you need to hire someone to help negotiating/entertaining with the Chinese parties in China, u can hire me!
7/3/07
- They said Harris would meet Yi at Dallas, as soon as tomorrow. Many Chinese people are happy to hear that.
6/29/07
- YI's agent is not happy and will try to force BUCKS to trade his client.
- YI's old ball club manager said the result was not surprising. He expected that outcome.
- He said, the way YI negotiated deal would be different from Yao and Wang, because YI's old ball club management would play a fair role in YI's signing. He does expect YI to play for BUCKS next season, not returning back to the CBA team.
- Fans' reactions are mixed. Some believed Milwaukee as a big farm city, see Milwaukee as a WEAK team. But some see YI would enjoy lighter competition in the EASTERN Conference, allowing him to develop his game nicely here.
- YI said that himself. He would attend BUCKS camp on time. Work hard for the minutes (get the starting job). And looking forward to compete against YAO on the court. Nice attitude!
7/1/07
- Yao commented on Yi's situation. But not much of info. He said that was Yi and his agent's business, he got no control of it. Then he said, No.6 pick was a good result for YI. YI should be happy with the selection. Also, he said after YI was picked, Yao called YI. Yao said, he could tell YI was in a good and happy mood, not fault mood that ppl reported on the newspaper.
- more and more ppl on the China forum getting on the BUCKS bandwagon. They start digging into information above Milwaukee, realizing that Mil is actually 23rd largest city in US.
- more and more ppl building bad rep on Yi's agent and also Yi. They like Yi and his agent stop all the bull**** and play for BUCKS.
- another comment from ppl in China, you all may find it offensive but that is the culture difference. ppl do not like green color. WHY?? because when your wife cheat on you, everyone will say you are "Wearing GREEN hat". So green hat is a big time taboo in China. So BUCKS better get a series of RED hat for china market. Do not laugh. It is true! (For me, I am Chinese, I do not give a damn, I love my green bucks cap and green packer cap!!!!!)
7/2/07
- News reported Yi's agent is pushing Philly to make the trade again. Philly is willing to part with anyone on its team, excepting Ilgudala (not sure spelling, too lazy to check!)
- Fegan keeps saying the worst case for YI is to play CBA in china next year. BUT, Yi's CBA manager said YI would not come back playing for CBA for sure. Clearly, Fegan is buffing! Harry, u need to hold your ground.
- My view. There is a lot of money involve with Yi's signing. A lot of ppl in China will get a share of YI's money, his CBA team, CBA manager, China Sports Commission, Chinese government (tax) etc. They will be pissed if Fegan screwed up the deal and not getting YI to sign. At least some money from Milwaukee is better than nothing. As such, I believe Fegan's stupid behavior will eventually get himself fired. Harris, if you need to hire someone to help negotiating/entertaining with the Chinese parties in China, u can hire me!
7/3/07
- They said Harris would meet Yi at Dallas, as soon as tomorrow. Many Chinese people are happy to hear that.